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The Mandalorian Mandalore (the Planet) Speculation

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by godisawesome , Dec 20, 2020.

  1. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    Star Wars environments seem to be one of those things that require a suspension of disbelief. A hemisphere of Concord Dawn for example was shattered into many pieces creating an asteroid field yet the planet still has habitable moons that somehow revolve through the asteroids.

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  2. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Mandalore can endure mutch imean just look at Condord Dawn.
     
  3. DurararaFTW

    DurararaFTW Jedi Master star 4

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    Concord Dawn housed a temporary camp of a few people, unbelievable, yes, but nobody was pretending it was a prize to be won and was the key to prosperity.
     
  4. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I think there's more thenwhat you see in rebels, as Jango came from there and there are soppesed to civilization out there.
     
  5. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I kind of hope it’s dreamscape of destruction, like something out of a beautiful nightmare, almost like a Picasso painting.

    ...And I want a fight scene on it.
     
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  6. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    How does glassified sound to you?

    I think Mando episode 1 showed how they could make a barren landscape with their current technology budget.

    As for the self-contained domes of cubist civilisation... It'll look a bit odd (i.e., alien) but they did a similar thing in the Total Recall remake. Careful editing might help avoid too much scrutiny.
     
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  7. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Concord Dawn is not at all illustrative of typical Star Wars environments, though, which mostly have a realistic edge. Concord Dawn is an exception. I personally don’t like the cartoonish concept myself. Doesn’t feel Star Wars-y to me.
     
  8. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mandalore is a wasteland that would be barely habitable. What cities were there were destroyed in the Purge.

    The moon Concordia is intact and habitable.

    just my $0.02 worth.
     
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  9. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    While I still think there has to be some almost-uninhabitable circumstance making it seem “cursed” or “destroyed”... it occurred to me today that there is another factor that could make things interesting:

    Non-Republic or Imperial occupation by one of those nation-states mentioned in the Aftermath series Cobb Vanth came from.

    In particular, that Confederacy of Corporate Systems which sounds an awful lot like a mesh of the old Corporate Sector from Legends and the business side of the CIS.

    It’s probably a long shot, but if the planet is not just wrecked but also belongs to someone else for mining purposes or something, that would reinforce the difficulty of reclaiming it, since even an almost uninhabitable place could still have cube cities.
     
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  10. FiveFireRings

    FiveFireRings Jedi Master star 4

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    I mentioned this in another thread, but it feels like the various and inconsistent descriptions of the current state of Mandalore are a really deliberate attempt to set up the fact that there are lots of rumors and legends and hearsay about its current state in-universe, and we "just don't know".

    The one I took most to heart was Bo-Katan's "don't believe everything you hear" because she'd probably be in the best position to know the truth. Her pursuit of Moff Gideon, and his possession of the darksaber, led me to think that he had some kind of base of operations there and wouldn't mind the tall tales discouraging the general population from going there.

    The sort of anticlimax of the season ending with Gideon captive in Bo-Katan's presence might mean I was wrong about that last bit, since, you know, as soon as Luke leaves they can pretty much just fly there and retake the planet right away if that were the case. To be honest, Gideon's operation collapsing threw off a lot of my expectations for later seasons. But I still think the planet itself is likely more viable than most people think and its real fate has been left a mystery on purpose, but IU and OOU.
     
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  11. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    I've seen some comments in this thread about Mandalore being a barren wasteland at this point in the saga. I know it was established in TCW with the domed cities and such, but in season 7, with these larger ships flying around, it leaves it a bit vague as to the full extent of an uninhabitable surface. Fast forward about 17 years to Rebels, and we seem them going to liberate Mandalore. All of the fighting is on the surface of the planet. We see a lake and trees, and an unimpeded view of the sky when they're at the home of Sabine's family. We also see them having conversations without any protective wear on what appears to be the surface.

    So what has happened to indicate that actions haven't been taken to improve the ability to harbor life, so to speak, on Mandalore? What has happened to conclude that Mandalore is most likely no longer inhabitable?
     
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  12. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Sabine's family home wasn't on Mandalore, it was another planet named Krownest. Mandalorian space is bigger than just Mandalore. Heck, Mandalore's own moon is lush and inhabited.

    Or was anyway - hard to know if the Empire just stopped at wrecking the planet Mandalore or if they went after the other planets in the system, or heck the whole Mandalorian sector.
     
  13. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    That's right. I forgot about it being on a different planet.
     
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  14. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    They lived in glass dome cities cause the planet was radioactive from past nuclear civil wars or something. All the Empire had to do was turn the planet to glass, I guess by breaking the domes. Probably would've been like Total Recall, "the dome with crack." ,lol.
     
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  15. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    It can’t be that simple, because if you could just land the Star Wars equivalent of a pressurized trailer park on the planet, then people wouldn’t be running away from it as much as TM has suggested.

    And I think we saw multiple people take their helmets off while exposed to Mandalore’s atmosphere in Rebels when Bo-Kayan made her return there.
     
  16. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    We did, and Ezra and Kanan never had a helmet to begin with.
     
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  17. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Well nobody knows how Rau and his men survived on Concord Dawn, look at it during Rebels,lol. Its a cartoon and Star Wars is fantasy. But one can maybe there is some declining radioactivity over the years leading up to Imperial controlled Mandalore on Rebels. But probably does not make them very smart then.

    And I remember Ezra wearing his Scout Trooper helmet . Anyhow it was a cartoon with even an even smaller budget than TCW. Cartoon action and animated stuff does not necessarily translate to live action universe since much of its the consequence of the medium and stylization. The fact remains for Mandalore that years of war had left the planet inhospitable, which had forced the Mandalorians to live within domed cities.

    "Did they fight against the Jedi? Yes, they absolutely did. Is there a big battle where there's a cataclysm between them and the Jedi? Yes. Have we pushed that idea that the cataclysm was so great that the surface of Mandalore was laid to waste? Absolutely, we did." - Dave Filoni

    Now if Boba Fett's reply was accurate, then the Empire would create another cataclysm after Rebels on Mandalore by turning the planet to glass. So in all likelihood all them domed cities were destroyed and most of people on Mandalore had died and few survivors scattered from what could be gathered on The Mandalorian show. Seems most survivors are Death Watch or formally related warrior types rather than regular citizens. Most of their warriors came from Concord Dawn or Concordia on TCW. Only New Mandalorians lived on Mandalore. And we know that since TCW stipulated that following Mandalore's civil war Mandalore's warriors were exiled to Concordia by the New Mandalorians and were presumed to have died out.
     
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  18. Cynda

    Cynda Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm curious since in season 2 we've encountered characters who lived through the Purge on Mandalore, if there will be flashbacks or a flashback episode to that time. We've still only heard references. Even if flashbacks to the Purge do not happen in the series itself I would be shocked if we don't see or read those events playing out in some future work.
     
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  19. FiveFireRings

    FiveFireRings Jedi Master star 4

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    It seems inevitable that an info-dump on the state of Mandalore is incoming at the start of S3.
     
  20. Zoe Con

    Zoe Con Jedi Knight star 1

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    Most definitely. Should be interesting about any Imperial presence and possible cloning work being done there.
     
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  21. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I keep on thinking that it wouldn’t make sense for the Imperials to have a presence on the planet, since it’s too significant a planet for the Republic to allow Imperials to control... but it occurs to me that a small and secret enough Imperial garrison might be something Mandos might want to keep to themselves so they can liberate the planet themselves, both for pride and out of paranoia about the last time they courted foreign intervention.
     
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  22. Konrad Pietrzak

    Konrad Pietrzak Jedi Knight star 1

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    Well we don't know what happen with Mandalore during FO war, maybe Order don't have enough streng to conquer sector

    But they work slower and only take resources, they don't made droids

    Titan AE
     
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  23. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm sending a presence. A presence I've not felt since...

    Oh wait, it's a mod warning.
     
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  24. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I’m rewatching The Heiress and just saw the scene where Din and Bo talk about Mandalore, but this time I noticed that Din’s choice of words on his end was that the planet was “cursed” and that “anyone who goes there dies” because the Empire made sure that if they couldn’t have it, nobody could.

    That implies something more active than just a glassing, but it still beggars belief that any substantial Imperial holdouts could be known to publicly hold the planet.

    Anyone else think there may be some kind of “automated scourge” left behind by the Empire to actively make the place inhospitable and hunt down any trespassers?
     
  25. TherenAdarni

    TherenAdarni Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Like the anti-Fett nanovirus from Legacy of the Force? (Also used on Mandalore)