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Characters Mara Jade Skywalker Character Discussion * NEW - Quote Challenge! *

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by Jedi Trace, Sep 5, 2005.

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  1. ginchy

    ginchy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    See, this is probably part of what made Mara such a great secret operative...she is so hard to pin down and can fit into so many molds that she has broken or created her own mold!

    She's such a great character. [face_love]

    As I said, I'm still out on my interpretation of Mara and her past sexual history. I still think she might wrap a lot into sex=trust, but I can also see her as being the type who can disassociate (almost) body/mind/spirt and can focus on one at a time, if you will, when it is convient to her. She'd have to be able to do that to be an effective assassin, and yet still be able to reconcile that with the person she is now.

    But I agree with you, JL...either way, her relationship with Luke is special. :D
     
  2. VaderLVR64

    VaderLVR64 Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh, I think our handsome farmboy would give Mara a run for her credits. I can picture him getting all masterful! =P~ They'd play nice and take turns being "boss." ;)
     
  3. RedGold

    RedGold Jedi Master star 4

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    Trace - I?m thinking somewhere between your A and B. I?ve never thought that Mara was sexually inexperienced pre-maritally, but I don?t see her as a frequent fling kinda girl, either.
    I didn't think she was completely inexperienced, I'm just saying that is an option if you follow the B theory.

    Personaly, I kinda agree with JadeLotus which is why I mentioned Kyle and Corran. I can just see her getting with them in a comfort sex type situation. For Kyle it would be after his brush with the Dark Side, needing to feel human again. For Corran it would be as a break in the angst and stress as he doesn't know what's going to happen and just needing that comfort and warmth.

    I think that's what makes her (sexual) relationship with Luke so special. It's a physical intimate relationship based on trust, love and committment. That makes all of the difference.

    Yeppers! :) ;)

    Am I the only one who thinks that Mara was likely to have engaged in comfort sex with various random men (mixed with a little alcohol and dare I say it spice?)

    Mara a spice addict? I got that fic about half finished on my harddrive. ;) Too angsty and R rated for TFN though...
     
  4. Jadie

    Jadie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Comfort sex, yes. With Lando or Corran, no.
    I think that she wouldn't get sexually involved with someone she would have to meet and work with very often. It would become really odd and she wouldn't get the respect she wants.

    I think with would be kinda like this:

    Bar, 0300 AM, after 12 glasses of Corellian wisky:

    Mara: Hey, you! Yes, you in the corner.
    Good looking guy nobody knows: Me?! What do you want-
    Mara: Shut up and kiss me, if you have love for your dear life.


    ;)

    I think that's what makes her (sexual) relationship with Luke so special. It's a physical intimate relationship based on trust, love and committment. That makes all of the difference.
    You hit the spot JadeLotus! :cool:

     
  5. rhonderoo

    rhonderoo Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It would become really odd and she wouldn't get the respect she wants.


    Or... on the contrary, she could be respected even more. :cool:
     
  6. Jedi Trace

    Jedi Trace Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    [face_mischief]

    Well, yes, then there's that, roo - in which case, Luke probably got an earful about what a lucky man he was on his wedding day. ;) [face_laugh]

    Red: How many fics do you have sitting around on your hard drive, girl? :eek:

    I think I have some kind of must-post-itis disorder. Things fester on my PC and demand to see daylight. [face_blush] I'm gonna learn to finish something before posting it someday...when I grow up. 8-}




     
  7. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Fascinating discussion, girls - I may have to lurk more often... [face_mischief]

    Um... it is safe for me to delurk and start scurrying around again, right...? [face_worried] :p

    In part, I suspect it all depends exactly how Palpatine trained her, what sorts of methods he directed her into using...

    The fascinating thing is that Mara has the potential to be, or to have been, all manner of different people, and still to remain essentially herself...

    And you girls all say Marakin isn't credible...

    Well, she would too, I guess... [face_mischief] :cool:

    [:D]

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  8. VaderLVR64

    VaderLVR64 Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Can you imagine all of Mara's uh... encounters getting together and the wedding reception and comparing notes.

    "Hey Skywalker, does she still giggle when you touch behind her left knee?"

    Luke thinks that maybe Force lightning would be a good way to end the conversation and all hell breaks loose! [face_laugh]
     
  9. ginchy

    ginchy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    LMAO, Vader! [face_laugh]

    I guess Luke could always rejoin with, "It's not her knee that I'm paying attention to, and whaddya know? She's marrying me."

    :cool:

    /my lame attempt at humor
     
  10. RedGold

    RedGold Jedi Master star 4

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    Trace - way too many to count... ask AG88 sometime about our AIM conversations... I tell her at least one plot bunny a week, and half of those get something of them written before I get smacked with another plot bunny... the ones that make it online are the ones where the muse strong arms me and threatens me with lack of chocolate...


    McEwok - I still hate you.
    ;)


    edits: because I could never spell, and never will...
     
  11. VaderLVR64

    VaderLVR64 Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If you have any stray plot bunnies you don't want, you know where to send 'em! [face_devil]

    Wouldn't that be a tad awkward, all of your wife's old lovers showing up for the wedding.

    "I got you a lifetime supply of whipped cream," wink, wink. "Believe me, you'll thank me later!"

    "Here's an Ewok costume. Just wear it and don't ask question. She'll go crazy!"
     
  12. Jedi Trace

    Jedi Trace Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ginchy: [face_laugh] Good one! ;)


    VaderLVR:

    Wouldn't that be a tad awkward, all of your wife's old lovers showing up for the wedding.

    "I got you a lifetime supply of whipped cream," wink, wink. "Believe me, you'll thank me later!"

    "Here's an Ewok costume. Just wear it and don't ask question. She'll go crazy!"



    Speaking of stray plot bunnies.......Write it! I dare you! [face_mischief]



     
  13. VaderLVR64

    VaderLVR64 Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Now that's just cruel, daring someone like that! [face_frustrated]



    EDIT:

    All right, while I was doing something useful (folding towels) a plot bunny came to me for the wedding reception/whacky gifts idea. Don't let me wriggle out of doing it. I'm telling you! I'll try! But keep hounding me. [face_beatup]

    Uh, but could you give me a month or so? The next few weeks are gonna be brutal! [face_praying]
     
  14. kayladie97

    kayladie97 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, it took me a while, but I was finally able to come up with something for my own challenge. :rolleyes:

    Hope y'all like!

    Important Questions
     
  15. RedGold

    RedGold Jedi Master star 4

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    We don't talk about dares anymore.... *glares at McEwok*
     
  16. Jadie

    Jadie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What did you make her do, McEwok? [face_thinking] [face_mischief]
     
  17. BigFatty

    BigFatty Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Just dropping in to thank you guys for the many awesome challenge responses. These stories are great. :)
     
  18. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler & Former Mod/Wacky Wed. Winner star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Winner

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    Finished VOTF. Awesome book, wonderful story line. I was at lunch at work when I got to the part where Luke proposed to Mara and had to expalin to all what I was sighing over! Luckily my co-workers are highly understanding in my dorkiness.

    Now as to Mara and love. It seems quite obvious that up until she touched and shared herself mentally with Luke, she had no idea that any kind of relationship could be that way. She says so herself and that is what brings to mind all that she has missed over the years. All that she wants, without ever knowing what it was.

    I just love the 'I love you, Mara" phrase she picked for Luke to bring her out of the hibernation trance. Drove me crazy that the story went to another arc after not letting the reader know what it was till it went back to Luke/Mara a bit later.

    I've now started I, Jedi which is good as I know more about Corran HOrn from the last couple books. What is the name of the third book in this current series?? SOTF, VOTF, & ???? [face_batting]
     
  19. Jedi Trace

    Jedi Trace Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ginchy: I can also see her as being the type who can disassociate (almost) body/mind/spirt and can focus on one at a time, if you will, when it is convenient to her. She'd have to be able to do that to be an effective assassin, and yet still be able to reconcile that with the person she is now.

    I meant to comment on this earlier but got swamped at work. That is an excellent point, ginchy! There are many professions where people simply do what has to be done, no matter how unpleasant, and cope by either detaching from the reality or rationalizing the necessity. I can imagine Mara probably did both, depending on the situation.

    Going back to the ?what is it you understand about Mara? question posed earlier: This is probably one way that I ?get? the character of Mara - because of my job (ICU nurse). People in my profession are often accused of having a ?sick sense of humor? or of being ?cold hearted.? And it?s true ? either you learn to laugh/detach or you go crazy ? it?s a defense mechanism.

    This is where I could see a lot of Mara?s sarcasm and abrupt/gruff personality traits coming from. Contrary to opinions voiced elsewhere at the JC, I don?t believe that killing was something she necessarily enjoyed?it was, like Zam says in AOTC, ?just a job.?

    And if you can detach from the act of assassination, then I can imagine it would be fairly easy to detach from the act of sex.




    Vadey: All right, while I was doing something useful (folding towels) a plot bunny came to me for the wedding reception/whacky gifts idea. Don't let me wriggle out of doing it. I'm telling you! I'll try! But keep hounding me.

    [face_devil] Will do! And I love your new colors! :D And that Luke icon - *sighs*



    Red & Jadie:
    We don't talk about dares anymore.... *glares at McEwok*

    What did you make her do, McEwok?


    I think I know what that?s about. If so, Red rose to the challenge beautifully ? twisted as it was. [face_mischief]


    BigFatty: Welcome and thank you!! :D


    Leona: I was at lunch at work when I got to the part where Luke proposed to Mara and had to expalin to all what I was sighing over!

    That?s probably one of those ?Where were you when?? moments for L/M fans. I remember it well ? I was sitting in the hallway at the bathroom door while my oldest daughter (who was 3 at the time) was taking a bath. I got to the proposal and promptly started cheering. My husband, who did not read the EU at the time, thought I had lost. my. mind. [face_laugh]


    Now as to Mara and love. It seems quite obvious that up until she touched and shared herself mentally with Luke, she had no idea that any kind of relationship could be that way. She says so herself and that is what brings to mind all that she has missed over the years. All that she wants, without ever knowing what it was.

    Oh, I agree! I think the same was true for Luke. If you subscribe to the ?Force as an entity? point of view, I can see it pushing the two of them together with an Enough. Wasting. Time. attitude. :cool:

    I just love the 'I love you, Mara" phrase she picked for Luke to bring her out of the hibernation trance. Drove me crazy that the story went to another arc after not letting the reader know what it was till it went back to Luke/Mara a bit later.

    Am I the only one who read all the L/M parts then went back and read the rest of the book? [face_blush]

    I've now started I, Jedi which is good as I know more about Corran HOrn from the last couple books. What is the name of the third book in this current series?? SOTF, VOTF, & ????

    SotP and VotF are a duo. The next book you?ll want to read is Survivor?s Quest by Zahn, which takes place three years after VotF. :)



     
  20. Healer_Leona

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    Excellent. The library has it in stock so I put a hold on it and can pick it up later. YIPPEE!!
     
  21. kayladie97

    kayladie97 Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh, Force! When I was reading that sentence, my eyes skipped ahead from 'touched' to 'herself' and I was thinking, "Damn! What book was Leona reading!? I missed that part!" :eek: [face_laugh]

    Nothing of any value to add to the conversation here, really. I just wanted to confirm for all of you that I'm sick and twisted... [face_mischief]


    Edit: I left the quote open...that was bugging me. :p
     
  22. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler & Former Mod/Wacky Wed. Winner star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Winner

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    ROFLOL!!!!! [face_laugh] [face_laugh] Funny how the eyes can deceive huh? Plus, I'd never read fics that like, right, uh, yeah really! Nor write about my fave Jedi Master and his little healer lover no way! ;)

    Edit: And now you've put the Divinyls 'I Touch Myself' running through my head. [face_laugh]
     
  23. Bri_Windstar

    Bri_Windstar Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    *SPORFLE* o_O

    [face_laugh] [face_laugh] That's so wrong. :p

    I don't think Zahn quite has that capacity anyway. Love the man's SW novels and characterization, but they're a bit lacking in the romance department.

    And Leona, now I have that song stuck in my head. [face_plain] :_| :p
     
  24. kayladie97

    kayladie97 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ah, I immediately thought of that song, too! Only I couldn't remember who sang it, so thanks for reminding me. :p

    :eek: NO, mustn't write the plot bunny that just popped up with Mara singing this song to Luke...

    Maybe she's a little tipsy, out at a bar or something, sees the Farmboy, thinks about how much she's denying those feelings...then...KARAOKE!

    Oh, crap. [face_frustrated]
     
  25. Jedi Trace

    Jedi Trace Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Never! None of us. O:)

    And I certainly wouldn't want to know exactly where one would go about reading one of your fics like that, Leona. Ahem. Nope - not me. [face_batting]


    kayladie: Hold the phone! I'm still waiting for chocolate-covered Luke. [face_mischief] [face_blush]


     
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