ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) in Episode VII

+1. He's obviously in episode 8 as well, so he's gotta do something in that film.

Sure, there would be a lot of monotony in building a new Jedi Order, but they don't have to show bean-counting and can just focus on the broad strokes. They showed the Empire's creation, and that would have involved freakin' accountants!

 

Well, we will likely part of Rey's training, yes,,but as I've said before, just training one person doesn't mean that he has rebuilt the order. If that were true, then Yoda rebuilt the order already, because he taught one student... Luke.

We don't know how far along Rey's training will be when we see her in episide Viii either. She may already have nearly finished.

I would have preferred it if we would have seen that Luke had already successfully trained 6 to 12 apprentices in the 30 years between films frankly. That would have been a better "gesture" for this Luke fan.

 

But, but, but....











"It's like poetry, it rhymes."

 

But how useful to the galaxy as a whole would a few Jedi be? In the grand scheme of things? The GFFA is huge! There are countless star systems in it. Might as well not continue having Jedi in the galaxy if you're only going to have a handful.

 

They haven't hyped anything about the character himself in the story, just the lightsaber.

 

nothing's better than a good blaster by your side. or something.

 

I hope there will be more than a few, but it will be decentralised and more based on the individual. so basically, luke himself will only work with a few jedi, but there will be more out there. that's sort of how I always imagined the jedi. there won't be a jedi order as a political entity.

 

The last part is right but you need at least a few dozen Jedi to deal with all the major galactic concerns . diplomats , healers , warriors etc

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Mark shaved his beard again. Classic Luke is back?

 

I'd rather have Luke crippled than just having him play cameo in all three films. I hope he gets a sizeable role at least in the second and third film if he really does have as little screen-time in TFA as the rumors say.

 

Please, can you kindly not ever link to RLM again

 

Again, you are making stuff up to help you justify your angst. No rumor anywhere has tried to say that Rey is going to re-build the Jedi Order. That is the tantrum-filled twist on the rumored ending that is widely believed where Rey goes to Luke at the end. Nothing has EVER hinted that Luke disappears and Rey is left to rebuild the Order.

 

None of that at all implies he will be seen restarting the Jedi Order. The ending isn't Maz, Finn and Rey go meet Luke. It's just Rey and as others have said, if all Luke does is train Rey then it would've been preferable to actually see Luke with a functioning order of some kind that he did off screen. It is a huge assumption to say that we will actually see Luke establish a new order ON SCREEN in this trilogy. More likely that we see him train Rey who will eventually do it.

 

but what if Rey kills Luke and establishes a Sith order.

 

Is it crucial to Luke's arc for him to rebuild a new order? I thought Yoda just told him to pass on his teachings? Whether that be one person, or a handful of force sensitives.

 

If there is to be a re-established order, I really don't think Luke would care who gets the credit. Why do the fans?

If, when all is said and done, Luke is shown to be the one ember that kept the flame from completely dying all those years that would be enough for me.

It's not easy to hang on with that weight on your shoulders, I'd imagine. In some ways perserverance, compassion, selflessness and determination count for more than double backflips and twirling glowsticks.

 

the point is if Luke passes on to Rey and Rey passes on to one new student it is fine, but if Rey starts a new order/academy that was supposed to be done by Luke, it will just feel very disappointing.

 

Not much is actually crucial, but then you wonder why even bother bringing this character back just to have him play the exact same role that we've already seen in the previous trilogy.

 

Yeah, so it took him 30 years to train one Jedi successfully? Basically kills the importance of the character.

 

I really hope you are right.