ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) in Episode VII

The obvious use of Luke is when Rey/Finn/Han face insurmountable odds - they stare death in the face and then.... Luke arrives. He takes on Kylo Ren and the FO troops. Luke saves them (well, perhaps not Han!).

It would make narrative sense to delay Luke's entrance and then give him a big heroic rescue to perform. In the truest sense it will be

Return of the (last) Jedi.

 

What you have to take into account with regards to this,(broken record mode) is the inherent secrecy surrounding this film there's been. From the very top level. To think a little, obscure SW website has been privy to intimate secrets surrounding this films plot takes some believing. And yes, certain 'leaks' have corresponded with stuff we've seen in the trailers etc. But, it hasn't really been earth shattering secret reveals, has it? No leak, wetter it be about Finn, Rey, Poe or whoever has in essence really revealed anything with any meat t it. The Knights of Ren reveal is testament to them knowing what they want you to know and when. Think about it.

 

Probably wrong thread but the pic was posted and it may have already been discussed. The first 2 troopers in line seem to have different helmet designs....flametroops?

 

yeah one of their weapons looks like a flamethrower.

 

I dunno if anyone has ever suggested this! Here goes, my final prediction for The Force Awakens.

The big twist in Ep 7 is

Kylo Ren is Luke's son.

Luke disowned Kylo a few years earlier due to his reckless ways. Luke doesn't know Kylo Ren (which is not his real name - this was confirmed a while back) joined the FO. At the end of the film Luke has to battle Kylo Ren, his son. This creates all new emotional conflict for ep 8 and 9. Ren survives the battle.

That could work. Luke could know Kylo Ren is his son - but the audience isn't told. Luke doesn't have to not know, if you see my point. If Luke is revealed at the end he can know or not know depending how the storyline pans - but Kylo Ren is really Kylona Skywalker. He altered his first name to Kylo. It's really Kylona Solo.

Well could this work? Mad idea? Oh well, it got me excited for a minute. Reyh isn't Luke's daughter. Luke has a son, not a daughter. Kylona Skywalker!

(perhaps I need to work on that name a bit!)

 

At least this would give Luke more of a role/purpose for the ST instead just to train Rey Solo as Yoda 2.0. It would also explain why Kylo is stronger and Rey needs training to face him.

 

More detail:

Kylo Ren's real name is Kylona Skywalker. He joined the Knights of the Ren, he became known as Prince Kylo Ren. Luke believed Kylona was dead. He hasn't spoken to him/made contact in a decade. At the end of the film Luke battles Kylo and he discovers his son is still alive.

This would explain why Kylo Ren is obsessed with Darth Vader. Vader is his granddad. The power and allure of the dark side continues on from grandfather to grandson.

By keeping Luke a mystery it avoids anyone thinking Kylo is Luke's son. Kylo doesn't know where Luke is, Luke thinks Kylo is dead. When they meet up it's a terrible moment. Should Luke, the last Jedi alive, execute his own son to save Finn/Rey and Han?

I doubt this will happen but it's my prediction!

 

Well on that premise, here goes my final prediction for TFA...
Kylo is Han/Leia's son. Rey is unrelated..and Luke becomes aware of what's going on and appears when he feels he has to. To save Rey and Finn from Kylo. Setting up VIII perfectly
And if I'm completely wrong? So be it. It better be well written otherwise...

 

Oooh, the opposite idea!

 

My prediction is Luke has gone bat **** crazy and decided to clone himself, and in epVIII a ****load of Luke's will save the day.

 

Faelyn Cypher ‏@SilverFaelyn 14h14 hours ago
@HamillHimself, I'm sure you've been asked before...was this a behind the scenes candid? Or a Photoshop? #Curiosity

Mark Hamill ‏@HamillHimself 4h4 hours ago
Mark Hamill Retweeted Faelyn Cypher
Just killing time between shots. That picture wasn't meant for release. OOPS! #CarelessWeaponHandler

 

Mark's beard must have taken months to grow it was even contractual. So why go to all that trouble for just a tiny amount of screentime when they could have easily faked the beard anyway. That more than anything is the real mystery right now! Only logical answer I can think of is Mark was ready to shoot his scenes before Harrison's accident then he had to keep the beard until after incase of reshoots.

Mark had that full beard from April-Sept 2014 that's a long time if its only a few mins of screentime !!

 

Because a real beard always looks better than a fake one (especially for your climactic scene in the movie), and so Lucasfilm paid Hamill very handsomely to grow and maintain a beard for months for his one big scene (+promo shots, etc)...although I still think there's a small chance we will get brief hologram Luke earlier in the movie. But would he need a beard for that? Maybe not...

 

and they also paid for him and his family to hang in England for a few months and maybe even AD if that report was correct about Kevin Smith's podcast.

it doesn't add up to just the end scene.

 

what about the costume and drones? Is that really for the flashback??

 

This is always makes me chuckle. A special effects division, at the cutting edge of animatronics and practicality. Completely incompetent when it comes to producing a believable, fake beard for an actor! That's utterly laughable

 

Have you not seen McGregor's fake beard on AOTC?

 

Of course I have. That was a long time ago though, agreed?

 

I have a feeling Luke will be more than just the new Yoda. There's that little matter of The Knights of Ren wiping out his Jedi Academy and the Jedi Apprentices training there that needs to be addressed...

 

It was only fake in certain parts, correct? I'm pretty sure throughout most of the film his beard was real and then they gave him a fake for the pickups (like that scene there).

 

and the fact that you can compare it from scene to scene is what makes it stand out. If Ewan was only in 1 scene at the end and had a fake beard it wouldn't be as obvious

 

the funny thing about Ewan's beard is that I never noticed until I came here seems like fans really do analyze every little detail in the movies.

 

Well hate to break the news like this, but Mark Hamill is not really a superstar these days. So he simply doesn't deserve to be ltreated ike how Marlon Brando was back in those days.

Luke Skywalker or not he hasn't had a major live action role in decades.

 

Correct.

The elevator scene with Obi-Wan and Anakin springs immediately to mind.

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Oh, and Kylo as Luke's son? Love it.

But hey -- I love him as Luke's nephew, too. As long as it's still all in the family.

 

They were still writing the story, so maybe they didn't know how much they would use him. He was on the bench. Heck, after Harrison Ford's accident, they were ready if need be to minimize his role.