Amph Marvel's Falcon & Winter Soldier [Disney+]

I'm hoping Sharon Carter makes her appearance on the next episode, but doesn't spend too much time showing what she's been doing since stealing Steve's and Sam's gear back. I wonder if Sharon was snapped out of existence during the blip. I'm pretty sure they'll say if she did or didn't.

Since my wife is a novice MCU fan, she doesn't recall alot of the things that happened over the course of the films. Like she didn't recall Helmut Zemo, so we watched the Marvel Studio Legends featurette/recap on him and then the one on Sharon Carter. My wife's mouth hit the floor when she saw the scene where Sharon eulogizes Peggy at the funeral, whereby Steve and Sam look on in surprise, and hears Sharon call Peggy her aunt. Obviously, wife did not recall this scene.


I wouldn't have mind if Steve ended with Sharon instead of Peggy.

 

From this interview regarding Sharon it

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sounds like she may still been here rather than snapped in the Blip.

That could be wrong, but you never know.

Regarding Sharon and Peggy,

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I agree but then the theme of this series would have been for naught if he wound up with Sharon.

Almost forgot new episode overnight. Yay.

 

Well, I felt the Steve and Peggy relationship came to a close in Captain America: The Winter Soldier...


And was moving forward with Sharon in Captain America: Civil War




However, I was totally happy seeing Steve get that dance with Peggy at the end of Avengers: Endgame

 

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Another great episode.

 

Yep. Excellent.

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Karli and co. are a big old Boo: She further ingrained that with the bombing. At least Negal and the refined super soldier serum lab are destroyed. Isaiah was the test subject.

Madripoor was interesting in it’s look.

Yay, WS moves. A bit creepy he fell back into that so fast, Bucky is not cut out for civilian life.

Walker is a ticking time bomb. He loses it when people disrespect him, and/or refuse to follow him.

Sharon is hiding something big. Liked seeing her hand-to-hand combat moments.

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Wonder if Walker or Lemar may get the serum?

Could Sharon be working for the Power Broker (Is she the Power Broker? Or could she be a Flag Smasher who took a vial of the serum?)

Hrm...Buck and Okoye and Zemo...uh oh.

I’ve read some insane crap that Wyatt is getting death threats by playing Walker? Seriously?!? WTF...why?

 

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haha freaking Zemo. Purple mask yay! And spoiled rich!

So who did they find floating dead in the sea?

Sharon just showing up and dropping mad angry backstory exposition. I had a sneaking suspicion that she might be the power broker when she was going John Wick on those goons but c'mon she's lovable Sharon.

"They cleared the bionic staring machine and he's killed everyone he's ever met."
"I heard that."

You'd figure Sam would know to keep his phone on mute when in the field.

 

Thought of something with Sam...

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His fail pretending to be Smiling Tiger proves he was correct in telling Nick Fury, he’s more of “a soldier than a spy” at the end of CATWS.

@BigAl6ft6 Yes...

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it could be very possible Sharon is the Power Broker. The “We have a problem...” phone call and maybe she took the serum too? She has way too many connections.

 

If i were to go big the Power Broker would be

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The Mandarin

FYI, Quite a bit of the banter between Sam and Bucky is improvised including important matters such as their therapist session.

 

Falcon and Winter Soldier needs to find FOCUS.
I'm not sure we needed Zemo. Could have hold on to Zemo for next Cap movie/show. I feel like this show is more interested in setting up Thunderbolts and etc then who is the next Cap. Show needs to focus on Sam/Walker/Bradley plotline. Just reveal who the power broker is. We don’t need whole episode wasted and we still don’t know at the end of the episode. The villain of the show isn’t clear and we only have 3 episodes left. This show is being written like it has long season instead of being only 6 episodes. We are halfway in and show still doesn't even have Sam fully express his feelings on why he didn't want the shield. The direction of the show is also kind of a mess. Worst offense was that opening jail break scene. Wish they got better director and writer for the show.
I thought first two episodes were fine. Enjoyed them although they could have used their time better. Needed this episode to pull it together but it ends up being the episode that lays bare the shows issues most.
Please get better.

 

It's already by far better than anything I expected, but that's just my opinion. It feels like a movie not like a TV show.

 

I really don't get the motivations of the Flag Smashers.

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Sharon Carter is the biggest badass in the MCU. And I'm here for it.

 

Loved the Episode 3, but then again, I am a big fan of...er.... a certain character (not sure how strict we are being about SPOILERS here, so...)

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I really liked Zemo, so very happy to have him return and enjoying his portrayal here. He should be smart, and principled (in his own very twisted, dangerous way!) and so far, so good on those fronts.

I do agree with what someone mentioned above... it would be a lot more satisfying, in my opinion, if they gave a much clearer picture of post-Blip problems, if those problems are going to be a major motivation for the Flag Smashers. I mean, it doesn't take much thought to imagine some of the very difficult, chaotic results of having a huge number of people erased for five years, and then having them return. Were they declared dead? Were their wills processed? Estates liquidated? Homes sold off? Doubtless, some people would return to find their partners have remarried or otherwise moved on. Jobs would be filled or gone. Trying to bring some order to the post-Blip world would require a massive effort and yeah, no doubt some people would be very unhappy with the process and the results. However, I think the show needs to give us a bit more than generalities. For example - are there big camps full of returned people? I get that impression and I can kind of see that, but I'd like to hear more. Are there enough displaced people, stuck in limbo, that a major movement could take root? The show also suggests that there are some people who weren't "blipped" who feel too MUCH attention is being given to those who've returned. To be fair, the outlines are there, and I KINDA get it...but I'd like the motivations to be spelled out a little more.

That being said, very happy so far - the "frenemy" relationship between Sam and Bucky continues to be great, and Zemo adds an interesting element to that relationship!

 

If the post-Blip world was so bad then why do the Flag Smashers want to go back to that world? I don't get it.

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I think they want to go back to the world that was between the Snap and the Blip: the five year gap. They think bringing everybody back (over 3-4 billion) like that would create chaos, just when the world was starting to recover.

 

I thought that five year period was the Blip? Either way, wasn't it meant to be awful? I'm just not getting why they love it and why they're targeting what are effectively refugee camps.

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Who knows what goes on in the minds of extremists? They probably think Thanos had the right idea.

 

Well that's what I was thinking. Then, in the previous episode, they tried to make them sympathetic but by the end of episode three they're unsympathetic nutters again. Compare them to someone like Zemo, who's definitely a villain, but has clear goals and a viewpoint that it's possible to at least get an idea of where he's coming from. The Flag Smashers just seem confused.

 

I think the key is

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GRC.
What is this council ? Who does control it ? Why it's like a militia type organization with tons of armed men and even working with governments and they military/police corps ( Walker came in early in the episode in car that had both GRC and !police! sign ? Why is that ? Why do they "remove" people? Why do they hide food and all sorts of proviments

Also note that the FlagSmashers motivation were never directly told by any one of them but by governmet agents, wich may mean it's just a spin. Remember how Hayward was full of crap in WandaVision.
Also go back to the first episode and the bank scene: people who came back di not have any line of credit. Now imagine this you disapear 5 years ago. All of your posssions are likely gone. Then you come back. How do you live them.
There were returned people whose house was saled. The bank account erased. Most of they jobs were probably gone.
Now go back to episode one: Sarah is upset because do not give her credit enough for surviving during the blip. Imagine this conflictthrough out the worls, through out every familiy, every company, every enterprise, every government. The president of certain country gott bliped; whta's is his political position when he comes back ? will he end his mandate ? Will the current president give away the job to the old one?
GOT THE EXTENSION OF THE PROBLEM ?
Seems this GRC is forcing down the throats of everyone the solution they want, even taking away people possessions, and creating refugees camps.
Altough, even these Flagsmasher could turn to be a "fake menace" created to give more power to GRC

As for the people complaining of the lack of a clear cut villain, you should remember

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WandaVision.
Who was the bad guy ?
Agatha or Wanda? Or Hayward?
Or SWORD?
Clearly the world is grey after the blip, something that was one of the themes of today's episode

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so Sharon a one person army now

 

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Certainly there's more going on with her than eyes meet.
See, everybody is guessing if Walker already took some sort of "supersoldier serum" because at times he looks stronger than normal.
After today episode, with the way she anihilates that mob i wonder if she also didn't take some herself.
In many ways , in Madripoor she would have a better chance to get it than Walker, objectivelly.
Also she looked very rich and powerfull. Odd way to hide from the CIA by running an international ring of high end art artifacts traficking scheme.
Some are pointing that she could be the Power Broker herself

 

I got excited when I saw that country's name appear on screen too thinking it was...

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Latveria

But, it's not.

I'm sure the internet would have exploded if it were though.

 

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Walker - Yeah, he’s not got the soul of Steve Rogers. He was never the little guy. Walker is the soldier military leaders would pick to be Captain America. Let’s hope he doesn’t get the super soldier serium or all his problems will be magnified.

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Sharon Carter is the Power Broker right? That’s what she was hidding. She needed to know what Sam and Bucky were doing and pretending she was more of who she used to be a was the easiest way.

My hunch is as a fugitive Sharon took advantage of criminal organizations she had knowledge of through SHEILD to hide and survive.

That was working so well, when the blip happened and a power vacuum created in the international crime / smuggling world Sharon found herself in the perfect position to use her skills to take over a criminal empire. And she did. Now she is the Power Broker.