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Amph Marvel's The Fantastic Four: First Steps

Discussion in 'Community' started by Moviefan2k4, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    If anything, it's probably targeting older audiences who have more nostalgia for the FF comics. Though I'm realizing that there's a good chance that the similarities that The Incredibles took from FF could provide a nostalgia hook for a younger audience than that.
     
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  2. Rylo Ken

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    It's fun to think that a first generation of Fantastic Four comic fans will be well into their 70s by now. That's definitely not a prime moviegoing audience, so you have to question the aesthetic themes of the movie appealing directly to the beginnings of the series.

    Obviously I don't expect or want artistic choices to be focus-grouped, but who would be surprised if Disney doesn't do that kind of thing.
     
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  3. BigAl6ft6

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    I think they just set it on a alternate 60ish verse because it would be too difficult to integrate the FF into the MCU history proper, the setting of the original comic, and also the whole multiverse Saga story
     
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  4. SHAD0W-JEDI

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    I agree with much of what you say, but -- and cleary this feeling is not shared by some! - there are folks (me among them!) who find that look, that aesthetic, cool, especially as regards the FF. For example, my son who, unlike me, wasn't around when dinosaurs walked the Earth, has always thought a Superman movie with the look/feel of the old Superman cartoons of the 40s would be great, and long before this movie was in the works, suggested that a 60s FF movie would be cool. After all, fairly recently, MAD MEN also leaned into that "60s look" (although more realistically, obviously!).
     
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  5. The2ndQuest

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    I was thinking more like people who would be in their late-40's or 50's (and who might bring families with them). Those who grew up reading Bronze Age stuff that still held Silver Age stories as essential "recent" backstories, up to those in the early 90's when the boom happened. Anytime you're reading comics, you're generally dealing with the last 10-15 years of event histories and keystone references as present day backstory, even if you weren't around to read them originally.
     
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  6. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Why? There are loads of 60s era retro shows and movies being made recently that are widely popular w all audiences.

    its no different than say doing any other fantasy period piece, say like a Captain America move set in the 40s of WW2.
     
  7. Rylo Ken

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    I think you're probably right that comic book superhero movie audiences are comfortable with fantasy alternative universe scenarios, like Fallout or The Incredibles. It's just interesting to think how original comic book audiences are moving into old age or are already dead. When Superman the Movie came out, the very first comic book readers were well into their forties. When Tim Burton's Batman came out, is original fans were well into their 50s. Now the first Fantastic Four comic readers are into their 70s, etc.

    I know Disney Marvel has most of its commercial success with people who have never cracked open a comic book, so it hardly matters, but it's interesting to think about.
     
  8. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    we've had various retro-futures too - 40's , 50's and 60's. Guess we'll be getting a 70's retro-future look soon, get those flairs ready.
     
  9. starfish

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    why do you care?

    it's a dumb superhero movie
     
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  10. DarkGingerJedi

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    Watchmen was basically that, right. Although that was 80s with Nixon still around lol.
     
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  11. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The trailer makes it look fun, and the most comic accurate version of the 4 so far.

    Pedro still doesn't look like Reed Richards, but that ship has sailed. The Thing looks great. The Torch looks great. Galactus looks great. Vanessa Kirby as Sue is the most perfect casting ever.

    The vibe/tone is right. Hopefully it'll make for a good movie.

    The Surfer and Doom/Stark could really F it up. Pun intended.
     
  12. gezvader28

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    With Watchmen it was more a matter of how the 80's would be if superheroes had happened, especially Dr. M - so technology had progressed differently.
     
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  13. darth-sinister

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    The 60's vibe is to recreate the vibe and tone of the original Lee/Kirby run. The 2005 film was just a film in the vein of Ultimate Marvel and the last one was body horror.
     
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  14. rocknroll41

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    Yeah the 90s Batman cartoon, as well as the new one, are both basically 40s retro future. Come to think of it, same with the Burton Batman films.
     
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    Even the flashback where Napier kills the Waynes looks 30's-50's in the style of clothing.
     
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  16. gezvader28

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    wha ?
    I love the Fabulous Four.

    Rich Reach Hard
    Jonny Firepants
    my favorite characters.

    I'll be honest I think the sequel : The Famous Five is slightly better.
    Controversial , I know.
    Enid Blyton - so underrated.
     
  17. starfish

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    exactly, doesn't sound like you're interested in the movie
     
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  19. BigAl6ft6

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    I think the 2005 version (at least the first one) feels very silver age. The Gah Lak Tus cloud from the 2nd movie is definitely from Ultimate Fantastic Four. Fan4astic is a weird version of Ultimate FF and body horror
     
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  20. Darth Punk

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    They missed a trick here. Should have gone with Baby Thing.
     
  21. rocknroll41

    rocknroll41 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They’re saving that for the sequel.
     
  22. Leoluca Randisi

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    has anyone posted the trailer yet? my apologies if someone already did? I'm getting a Pixar The Incredibles vibe from the 1960s aesthetic I love it! I love period pieces!
     
  23. Dawud786

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    It's sort of funny to be comparing the FF to The Incredibles, considering The Incredibles is often referred to as "the best FF movie" ever made!
     
  24. Master_Lok

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    I like the vibes, and the wink to the Bear actor playing Ben Grimm giving Chef advice to the domestic bot was cute, but I'm there for Galactus:Give me my world eater.
     
  25. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    I wonder if they take this retro feel into the X-men reboot.

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    I mean First Class was already kind of like that, but certainly not with the "faux futuristic" vibe.

    I could see them leaving plot threads left over from an encounter with Galactus to set that kind of thing up.
     
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