Maul take Dooku's place and should have been villian in entire PT.

If Maul hadn't been killed Sidious wouldn't have needed to seduce Anakin. Darth Maul was perfect for all Sidious's needs - It was Maul's untimely death, that really sealed Anakin's fate, so his death was vital to set up the fact that Sidious would need to replace him with another apprentice. This is absolutlely a key issue and I am shocked that so many people have missed this key issue - Really Maul's death is the pivitol moment in the whole Saga, or at least one of them.

 

Very true, G.

Although I agree Maul wouldn't be the right person to start up the Separatist movement.

It's really difficult to say just how much of the plotting of Sidious was due to his foresight, and how much of it was his adapting to events.

Anyway, I wish Dooku had a cameo in TPM, or was at least referenced by Yoda/Mace/Qui/Obi (the fact that he had left the Order). It would have made Dooku mysterious and set him up for AOTC.

I would have liked a cameo by Grievous in AOTC, but obviously they didn't have the technology (and Lucas hadn't thought of him).

And I would have liked a *little* more Maul in TPM, but for the most part, I think he served his purpose as the Jedi assassinator Sith.

 

I just agree there should have been one badguy. Rather than either Doku or Maul, it should have a character who was inbetween the two character wise.

Or dich the rule of two and have Maul, greavious and Doku be a Sith trio. Greavious the millitary stragist, Doku the poltical leader and Maul the assain.

To the man who never saw the Clone Wars cartoon-do so. Now. Epsiode 21 is so cool-it is worth watching even if it is so diffrent from the movie. Watching Greavious batter away at one Jedi's defenses with out a hint of emtion while the Jedi was fraeaking out sent shivers down my spine (and still does-partly thanks to the music.) It is also cool when he steps on Jedi. I didn't like the four lightsabers. His fighting style in the clone wars is much cooler, as is his voice.

 

Or dich the rule of two and have Maul, greavious and Doku be a Sith trio. Greavious the millitary stragist, Doku the poltical leader and Maul the assain.

I would like to seen maybe something like that, with Sidious as the main man, I felt the villians in P.T unlike the O.T took a back seat and where sidelined slighty with everything else going on, and were underused.Which is a shame as they were good villians but maybe could have become as memorable as the O.T villians

 

Alot of people are missing the point. A melding of the two characters of both Maul and Dooku could've been written for the PT.

 

So Lucas has given us:

ANH: Darth Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, Stormtroopers
ESB: Vader, the Emperor, Boba Fett (plus a bunch of cool bounty hunters)
ROTJ: Vader, the Emperor, Jabba the Hutt, Imperial Red Guards

TPM: Darth Sidious, Darth Maul, battle droids, Nute Gunray
AOTC: Darth Sidious, Count Dooku, Jango Fett, Zam Wessell
ROTS: Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, Count Dooku, General Grievous, IG-100 MagnaGuards

That's a whole ton of memorable villains. Obviously the focus in the OT was on Vader.

I understand why people want a villain they can focus on, and who is in repeated movies.

Yet I enjoy seeing a brand new villain in each PT movie, one that is different from the others before.

 

if you couldn't guess, Maul is one of my favorite characters from the trilogy. that being said, I have no problem with Dooku's character. I think Maul should have replaced GG as the droid leader (but I'm fine with the character of GG, I just like Maul better). He was no statesman like Dooku was, nor was Maul intended to be. GL needed a face for the Separatists ("There are heroes on both sides.") The idea of GG was to be a precursor to Vader (in that there was a way to sustain life through robotics). Maul could easily have fit the bill.

GL seemed to listen to the fans and cut Jar Jar out more and more as the PT went along, why not listen to them and bring Maul back?

 

General Maul would have been great. Sure, it kinda messes with the Sith rule of two, but then again, you could say that he was stripped of his position in the order for losing to a single jedi padawan and was fighting to regain his master's favor.

And as I said, it would add greater weight to the fight on Utapah.

 

If Ray Park did not have limitations - sorry to say it, i love the guy - as an actor, Maul would have been great. I think if he had been Grievous or rebuilt as a cyborg - as some expanded universe comic has done i believe - that would have been interesting. Its the stream-of-consciousness writing style Lucas employed - both brilliant and problematic - that made Dooku a difficult traitor. Maybe if he had been warm and friendly at first, like Lando, his betrayal would have seemed more significant - like Lando's. Mind you, when you employ Dracula to play a character, its not a subtle point you're trying to make.

 

I don't buy it. Dooku was more powerful than Maul. I suspect that the moment Anakin had used the Force in his efforts to destroy the Federation ship during the Battle of Naboo, Palpatine became aware of him. Don't forget that Palpatine didn't pay any attention to Anakin, while the latter was on Coruscant. Yet, when the two met again on Naboo, Palpatine took the trouble to say a few words to the nine year-old. Even if Maul had survived, I suspect that Palpatine would have found a way to get rid of him. And like I had stated before, I really don't see Maul possessing the charisma to lead the Separatists' movement on behalf of Sidious.


I suspect the reason why people wanted Maul to survive or another character like Maul, is because he is perceived as "COOL". And many people are shallow enough to be impressed by such a facade.

 

If Maul hadn't been killed Sidious wouldn't have needed to seduce Anakin. Darth Maul was perfect for all Sidious's needs - It was Maul's untimely death, that really sealed Anakin's fate, so his death was vital to set up the fact that Sidious would need to replace him with another apprentice. This is absolutlely a key issue and I am shocked that so many people have missed this key issue - Really Maul's death is the pivitol moment in the whole Saga, or at least one of them.


While I don't flat out disagree with this, I also don't think Maul's death had to come so early. I do believe that his original plan was to have Maul carry out the Jedi Purge, continue on with the Sith tradition, yadda, yadda, yadda. But that doesn't mean that, had Maul lived, Sidious wouldn't think twice about replacing him if someone came along who would be much more powerful one day, i.e. Anakin. There is, after all, precedence for Sidious wanting to trade up when it comes to his apprentices.

Replace Dooku with Maul in the beginning of ROTS and imagine the impact of Sidious coldly turning on the one he raised from a very early age, without a second thought. Now that's betrayal.