Maul v.s. Vader?

Devilanse
Registered: May 02
Date Posted: 7/22 3:08pm Subject:
RE: Maul v.s. Vader?

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Your post was great!!!
Really well written and got my imagination going.
Just Great!!

 

i think maul would win. yup, hes far more agile than darth vader, and his lightsaber has two sides, twice the chance of beating him, though that could backfire and he could cut his legs off or something...

 

People underestimate Maul's power. He took on two jedi at once, killed a jedi master, and almost killed Obi-Wan.

Maul would certainly keep Vader on his toe's if they fought.

ST

 

I saw a comic on this and i read the enitre thing, and well papals trick vader to going to this location and there he meets up with suprise another sith...maul, then out of no where comes palaps, he says some stuff like this is an exacte clone of my first apprentice, i well let you two decide whose master i will be...so they fight and well the speed of Maul is astounding to Vader but hes like please and completly destroys Maul

so thats all i remeber of the comic but thats why i know it would be

Vader hands down.

 

In the Star Wars Tales comic, Maul has the upper hand for a while, but Vader is victorious. How did they manage to fight? The Emperor cloned Maul to test Vader.

 

Vader.

 

Maul, and it would be all to easy.

 

Now is that vader from ANH, ESB or ROTJ. And is that maul from TPM. If you want an answer you need to get more spefic

 

Darth Vader, no questions. This really shouldn't be a question, Maul is nothing compare to Vader.

 

They didn't have all the flashy coreographing in the OT, so you can't really say *what* Lucas would have liked Vader to do with a lightsaber back then, if he had the technology to do it in '77-'83.

Maul killed one jedi and lost to a padawan shortly after? Vader wiped out the jedi order!

Vader all the way He's just so much cooler and has a much greater mastery of the force.

 

maul is faster, more acrobatic, more aglie, physically stronger, but does not see all that bright. he's very name suggest a pit bull. strong, tuff, but dumb. he also does not seem to be much of a force user. the force is vaders major advantage. he'd be able to take maul out at will.

 

Vader would destroy Maul.

Remember...ANH was made a long time ago. Stunt Coordinator wasnt really thinking about flashiness then.

ESB and ROTJ...Vader never wanted to kill Luke.

Vader would kill Maul in a New York second.

 

Maul is insignificant compared with Vader

our beloved black - clothed dude would win with ease

 

DarthBane,

i totally agree with you that vader never really wanted to kill luke. in Empire he wants luke to join him, in Jedi he just kinda gives up. we have never seen vader going off full tilt. vader right after ep iii would make short work of maul. vader of ROTJ might have a little more trouble but he
too would be victorious.

 

I agree. Vader could beat him, but I think that during ROTJ he would have a harder time doing it.

 

It's a stupid question actually. Vader would slaughter the always over-rated Darth Maul. Even Luke in ESB would probably beat Maul (don't let the old fight choreography fool you.)

Here are the others who'd beat Darth Maul.

-Obi-Wan
-Dooku
-Yoda
-Mace
-Sidious
-ATOC Anakin would also slaughter Maul
-probably 100 other Jedi.

 

Okay, Maul nearly killed Obi-Wan twice in their duel.

You don't have to "attempt" to make Maul look weak to prove your point that you think Vader could beat him.

Maul gets no respect.

ST

 

Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith!! VADER ALL THE WAY!! He would win. Oh its EU but... Read Star Wars Tales # 9 the Comic Maul vs. Vader. Then you will see who your Victor is.

 

Its not so simple.

Vader was half the man he used to be. Had Obi-Wan not crippled him in Ep3 Vader would have reached new heights of power, but he was physically destroyed. In the ANH annoted screenplays it says even Old Ben had Vader overpowered.

Darth Maul on the otherhand was young and inexperienced when he died. He had Obi beat, but he was too cocky, that was his fate. He had just crushed a Jedi Master, convincingly if you ask me. Had he had the time to age and become more experienced we can't be sure how strong he may have become -- not near Vader's potential, but still strong.

If it was Newly Dark-Sided-Anakin who fought Maul, I assume Anakin would win easily, but after Obi-Wan was done with Anakin he was a physical mess. However his force powers end up more advanced, far beyond Mauls.

In ESB Vader is just toying with Luke, so we can't be sure of his power, but in ROTJ he gets beat by a barely trained Jedi, even if he wasn't giving it his all, he got beat by Luke, who was just wildly swinging in a rage.

If Maul had went 1 on 1 with ROTJ Luke I think it'd be close, but Maul could probably get a shot off between Luke wild brute strength blows.

I think Maul would defeat Vader in a match of pure Lightsaber combat, due to Vader being an old cripple, but assuming he would resort to the force I think he could pull some tricks off and take down a confused Maul.

So, in the end, Vader by a hair, a very thin hair.

 

Are you people absilutely out of your freaking skulls? huh, are you? Maul is much faster, and agresive, and has no need for fight dialouge, while vader is a crazy old half machine, if luke could wear him down (luke being not that great of a jedi) I am sure maul would take but a few seconds, also consider the fight in SW:E4 the fight with Vader an Obi-wan, it was like too old men trying to poke eachother with thier canes, plus it takes vader a little time for him to focus his dark force powers (being so old) I'm suprised he doesent need a walker, but what am I saying vader is cool, but is a massivley easy opponent for Maul.

 

Let me just say a few things, Last time I checked A fast, agile, expert sabersman could do more moves and wipe Vader out just as Vader is saying " At last I have finally met Darth Maul, I've been waiting for you!". If an old, slow, 1/2 man that hasn't used his saber in a while was fighting a young, skilled, Agile, Agressive, expert sabersman he would have a total didvantage. If Vader felt like a wuss he might be able to take Maul out with a force power but, then again it would take Vader a couple secs. to concentrate and in that time Maul could probably strike him down.

Raj:
IMO, If you are saying that Vader could take Maul because Vader is stronger in the force, you might be some what true from your POV, but then remember, Anakin/Vader had help killing all of the jedi's he couldn't do it by himself. If he couldn't even hurt Dooku, then how would he be able to take all of the Master Jedi's and their Apprentices alone. He had a crap load of help, Darth Sidious, the clone troopers. remember "A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, HELPED the Empire hunt down and DESTROY the Jedi Knights."- Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi.

OBI-WAN:
IMO, People that can/could have defeat Anakn/Darth Vader.
- Obi-wan (remember he gave up on the death star but if he kicked his "A"hole once he can do it again).
- Dooku (Anakin lasted about 2 mins or less).
- Yoda (Master)
- Windu (Hand me my lightsaber, it's the one that says "BAMF).
- Luke (ROTJ)
- and the 100 other Jedi's there were.

GAJ:
From what I have observed from the fight, Maul was really only left himself open once, that was when Obi-wan was facing him alone, he did the flip over Darth Maul. He could have killed Maul but, moved to slow there. When he got cut in half he wasn't ready and that was his own fault, he wasn't paying attention.

Finally, why are people bringing up the EU, the EU and the Movies go together like Pamela Anderson being a wholesome virgin, some elements are true (she used to be a virgin). Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that if you belive everything that happens in the EU you're wrong, but some of the things I hear makes it harder for me to even listen and take the EU seriously.
I could write a SW's book and say that Luke is really a woman trapped in a mans body. That Obi-wan Kenobi was ressurrected and became a womenizing drunk, that wanted to go to Courasaunt and spend the rest of his pathetic life drinking himself to death and eating terrible food at Dex's Diner. However, who would actually belive this story and use to support their opinion.

I STILL LIKE VADER (especially in ESB: He was the ultimate BadA**)
IF I SOUND LIKE A TOTAL "A" HOLE PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I'M NOT TRYING TO SOUND LIKE ONE, JUST TRYING TO EXPRESS MY OPINION ABOUT THE SUBJECT -D)

 

I completely agree ATTICUS.

 

Yes Atticus you are correct on a number of things. But one of them you missused. Ben Kenobi stated that Vader HELPED hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. NOT was helped. So that does not mean that Vader had help. Because you can help some one witout being helped in return. So never in any SW film does it say that Vader was helped in destroying the JK's. But that he only helped. So IMO I think that Vader would win, because of the fact that fighting does not only mean using lightsaber skills. Maul is a very fast and strong opponent, but Vader has to have some amazing skills to HELP destory all the Jedi Knights. All of them. There were probably 10,000 Jedi Knights throughout the Galaxy. So Vader must have been strong.

 

quote:
" The power of this station is insignificant compared to the power of the force."
end quote.

If Vader was not concerned about the Death Star,which could destroy frickin' planets, do you think he would be worried about Maul?