McEwolk Theory- Zayne Carrick, the Exile, Darth Revan, and Lady Rivan

It's obvious that there's some considerable confusion about the facts of Knights of the Old Republic in story. Even in Knights of the Old Republic 2, they have problems knowing Revan's gender.

What people don't realize is that's because THERE WAS TWO LEADS.

The Exile has recently been confirmed to be female. However, does that rule out she'll meet up later with someone named Zayne Carrick with an unusual propensity to making friends? That Zayne furthermore will fall in love with a Echanni Handmaiden named Brianna?

It would explain the confusion here....

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And if Darth Revan is there, is it possible there was another Sith Lady entirely there? Perhaps the eventual inspiration for Darth Rivan?

Perhaps the love of Carth's life?

 

Ah. Interesting.

If I understand you correctly...you're saying that there might be an in-universe way to explain away "gender confusion". Male Revan and female Exile are canon, and so references to a female Revan may actually be references to a Sith Lady called Rivan, while references to a male Exile may in fact be references to Zayne Carrick.

Is this what you're saying?

 

While Rivan is stretching it, I think there's plenty more room for all of the Light Side stories to be true to some extent.

 

Or maybe Brianna fell in love with the female Exile in actual canon (not game canon).

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Scandal!

And maybe Revan and Carth secretly got it on behind Bastila's back... with Juhani.

 

Well, Revan, being the master tactician he is, would look to exploit every single advantage he could get. Having a close female comrade in arms use the name Revan or close to it, also wear similar garb as he, such a thing would give the Mandos and the Republic fits.

As for Zayne and Exile, it's entirely possible Zayne met with her during the events or the aftermath of the Mandalorian Wars.

 

It occured to me that perhaps the Jedi Exile is Shel Jelavan.

 

I like what I'm seeing so far, although I don't know about this Rivan actually serving as a decoy for Revan. Call it a hunch, but Revan doesn't seem like the type to use such subterfuge as one of his many strategies. Especially when he can beat all his foes with superior tactics and -following the SF's discovery- superior forces. Having a decoy just doesn't seem like typical Revan flair, maybe a Traya maneuver, but not Revan.

Like I said, just a hunch.

 

It's also unlikely female Revan would also have her mind wiped too and sent along with Darth Revan.

Though its possible.

It seems like its asking for trouble.

 

I definetly do think there's something beyond "Zayne" for Zayne to become as we go along. Whether or not he's a male Exile or Darth Nihlius or someone else though remains to be seen. I just have a feeling he'll turn out to be Nihlius. If I'm right, go me, if I'm wrong...

 

The point about him becoming Nihilus is that it really doesn't mean anything. It might be the end of the story but its just an emotional payoff that I don't think is going to be satisfying for anyone.

The evidence that Nihilus is Zayne is also pretty flimsy. It's also problematic that essentially you have to annihilate Zayne's character for him to become an animal.

 

To be fair, you'd have to annihilate anyone's character to make him Nihilus, and people definitely want a backstory for him. He was the posterboy for TSL, and yet we know virtually nothing about him. Either you make an interesting character who gets horribly shafted at Malachor, or you make pre-Malachor Nihilus an animal so we don't require any drastic change (I hear the original Jorus wasn't too different from his 'mad' clone. How'd that go over?) or you just leave him shrouded in mystery forever. It's SW, no matter how you go about it, you're gonna piss people off. The question is which camp are you least worried about POing.

Personally, I think, given what we see of Nihilus and the way Kreia talks about him, I think we're meant to pity him. If he was someone with a personality pre-Malachor (for once, I'm not even saying necesarily Zayne, just someone likable and respectable) then we'd pity him even more, which IMO, would be good.

 

I'm not saying it couldn't be done but I'm saying its sort of like the "Mara Jade is Quinlan Vos' daughter" speculation. It's pretty much based on maybes and wants rather than any solid leads at this point.

Nihilus could get a backstory or he might not. Honestly, Star Wars would tend towards Nihilus and Sion both being the Jedi Masters that were so arrogant and evil more than likely a main "hero."

We can pity Exar Kun for example but he was still always possessed of a Dark Side.

 

No. Because Shel wasn't even a Jedi by the time of the Mandalorian Wars, and Exile was a Jedi and fought in them.

 

Take note that Brevity is the gift of a Jedi.

No one says Revan, The Exile, and Malak have to be in the first rounds of the war.

 

Still, Shel has only four years left to travel to Dantooine, become a Padawan on the verge of knighting, join the Mandalorian Wars, become a General, fight on Dxun, and eventually trigger the MSG on Malachor V.

Very possible, indeed...

 

"No one says Revan, The Exile, and Malak have to be in the first rounds of the war."

IIRC the Republic was LOSING the war until Revan and Malak entered it. Canderous said the Mandalorians steamrollered the Republic, and he said they were essentially winning every major battle until the dynamic duo entered the picture.

 

Not so problematic when you think of Nomi Sunrider whose assent to knight took about six months if we think of the Freedon Nadd Uprising as such. As for becoming a General, Jedi tend to just assume the rank rather than anything else. Luke Skywalker became a Commadore in 4 years.

 

I'd just like to make clear that this thread has nothing to do with me: and I don't know what that extra "L" is all about, either...

Charlie...?

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Six months from "non-Jedi with completely no previous Jedi training" to Knight? Somehow I doubt that.

 

Yeah, but Nomi was one of the great Jedi Prodigies of her age. She was really pretty much the Luke Skywalker of her generation.

Heck, Luke went from Farmboy to Jedi Knight with a couple days of Obi-Wan tutelage and a few -weeks- of Yoda tutelage, and everything else was pretty much self-taught.

 

Exactly. I don't think its unprecedented, especially in light of her brother being a fairly gifted padawan himself.

 

Vrook states that Exile was a Jedi of average ability. If Shel exhibited ultra-fast learning skills, surely he wouldn't say that.

 

And Revan makes the Exile a General
The Exile kills 3 Sith Lords
and Atris says she's her hero.

So I doubt that's really true

 

I just figured out who Zayne is. He's Atton Rand.

 

Oh, come on. It's obvious.

Clearly, Zayne is Darth Krayt.