The Mandalorian Moff Gideon (Spoilers)

Although he is not necessarily a loose cannon given the revealed connection with a shadow council of Imperial Warlords.

I like the way theyre taking Gideon. He is the next progression in the history of Imperial leaders of Mandalore - we had Gar Saxon, an imperial loyalist but still Mandalorian through and through. Then his brother Tiber, who renounced the Mandalorian way and shed his armor, going so far as to try and remove that aspect of Mandalorian culture. Now we have an outsider in Gideon who is embracing aspects of the Mandalorian way, donning the armor and leading a beskar wearing army. He is leading Mandalore, just without the Mandalorians. Tiber Saxon began the Purge as a way to bring Mandalore to bear with Imperial rule - Gideon finished the job and now is bearing the fruit of that operation - only now there is no Emperor to reward him. So now he has made a new path for himself - using the fruit that he beared to increase his standing in the Shadow Empire. Perhaps to become the next Emperor, or perhaps to remain a loyal Imperial able to serve the great cause. Order.

 

You could say he's aspiring to be The Shadow Emperor. What a cool title!

 

Gideon is too much of a blunt instrument to lead. I hope Thrawn sees that.

 

He was at his most menacing and least campy in his introduction in S1. Since then, they’ve decided to go full camp with him, as well as in other elements of the show, and it’s had diminishing returns, IMO.

 

Did anyone ever explain how he knew all about Din, Cara, and Greef in season 1?

 

Spoiler

The script told him.

 

Intelligence gathering. He be former ISB

 

Bring back the stache!

 

This guy always just comes for the final two episodes every season, so I'd be ok with Bo getting revenge and just killing him in the finale. He survived a crash in season 1 and was captured in season 2 and escaped.

I don't need another weaseling out for season 3 and I'm not really interested in seeing a power struggle with him and Thrawn in Ahsoka or Mando season 4.

 

I quite liked the scene with the Shadow Council. I've long felt this an other shows can benefit from giving us more of the antagonists perspective of things, if only to add depth and try to understand their reasoning and motives.

I did find curious, though, that Gideon seemed like something of a leader of the group. At least, he seemed to have the respect and attention of many of the other members, voicing what seemed to be underlying concerns among their ranks against Pellaeon and Hux. Exactly what has Gideon done recently to earn the faith the Council seems to place in him? He captured the Child thanks to the Client, but then lost him; he lost his cruiser too, and was captured himself, with the entirety of his Dark Trooper complement gone in the process; he was driven off Nevarro, and the pirates he placed there to regain his hold on the planet were defeated too... and even if it's part of his own schemes, he lost Pershing, an important asset to the interests of the Council.

I would love to know more about all of this. Gideon seems to act first and foremost as an ISB/Intelligence agent in the Council. Maybe he has been providing key information for other members to thrive; maybe some of those members, and not an unseen second in command, were the ones responsible for his escape from New Republic´s custody. I don´t think it would hurt the character for us to know more about everything he has been up to in these last few months.

 

IMO, Gideon’s character took a major hit in Chapter 16 when he tried to blow his own brains out before Cara Dune smacked him unconscious. At that point he deemed himself unimportant to the Empire and now suddenly he wants to replace Thrawn?

 

If Gideon’s primary strength is intelligence, and we now know that he’s a member of the Shadow Council, part of which eventually evolves into the First Order, then Gideon probably knows about Exegol. This changes the context of his reaction at the end of season 2 to Luke’s imminent arrival. He’s not just endangering other Imperials if his knowledge is compromised, he’s endangering the Sith.

That said, Gideon’s lines in the last episode made it seem like anything related to cloning is Hux’s particular obsession. Though I do wonder whether Project Necromancer truly relates to Palpatine or is perhaps something new and totally different. But it is most likely a reference to Palpatine, especially because Filoni has previously linked Ahsoka during this time period to Tolkien’s Gandalf in the time before Sauron’s reemergence. And at that point Sauron was known only as the Necromancer, so I see this as a reference on Filoni’s part indicating that this does indeed relate to the resurrected Dark Lord.

I know the final episode will likely not reveal too much more about what the Imperials are up to, but I hope we at least get a better idea of what Gideon himself is doing in Mandalore and what his experiments with cloning were about. At this point I think it’s likely they relate to creating super-soldiers, a new Mandalorian race that he can dominate as he vies for power. The final stage of his Dark Trooper project.

 

I had the same association.

He could just be paying homage to Maul as another outsider taking over Mandalore (albeit in a different manner).

 

I'm not completely familiar with the all the lore around Qi'ra (as in I'm not sure if she's still alive at this point) but I think she would make an interesting tie in with the Gideon story line. She obviously apprenticed under Maul, which in turn provides a connection to the Mandalorians and the Dark Saber.

 

Please for the love of god keep him dead.

And thank you Gideon for destroying the darksaber.

 

At least keep the darksaber destroyed

 

Maybe they had the force. Gideon tried to mess around with science to maximize the potential for clones to be able to wield the force. But...



...if the Clones survived he would have likely faced the Starkiller quandary that Vader did in legends.

 

Yes it is. The force is connected to the M count. The more Ms you have the higher your potential in the force.

 

Somehow