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Andor Ahsoka Mon Mothma

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , May 26, 2022.

  1. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Or just more of it.
     
  2. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    Michael Carter should've player Bib Fortuna in Mando season 2...
     
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  3. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Nah, Bib is an alien character which requires heavy makeup so I don’t care who plays him………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
     
  4. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Jedi Master star 3

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    I never liked this character. Oh, these rebels... Here Mothma is also depicted as a bad mother (and wife), which only aggravates the attitude towards her. A person who chose an Idea, not a family. In this regard, she is similar to Leia. Both are bad ideological mothers.
     
  5. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    She is not in any sense portrayed as a bad mother or wife. If anyone was portrayed as a bad spouse, it was her nincompoop husband who didn't support her work and whined about her being no fun for criticizing people that were responsible for massacres. And Mothma did nothing, in the show, to incur the wrath she got from her daughter. The show seemed to imply that her daughter was generally taking her father's side on things, and that he was the one responsible for the family difficulties.

    Mon Mothma did nothing more than commit to fighting the Empire, in her own way, and that's admirable - while her husband just wanted to sit in his privilege as a citizen of the Empire. And she unequivocally did NOT concede to pawning off her daughter in service of that fight until she realized that her daughter was a staunch traditionalist, and wanted to do the traditional Chandrilan marriage thing. So while that's one of Mothma's most questionable moral decisions in the show, she was otherwise portrayed as a much, much better person than her husband.

    And seriously? A bad wife? What is this, 1950?
     
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  6. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Jedi Master star 3

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    Imagine, not everyone is interested in the rebels. In fact, few people cared about them. And considering what a mess they returned to the galaxy after their victory...

    I really liked this moment. Respect for the girl. (I am also a traditionalist)

    From a certain point of view.

    Ah, so you can be a bad husband at any time, but don't you dare call anyone a bad wife? Double standards.
     
  7. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    What I have always found fascinating about Mon is that she’s basically always stepping into roles or taking on more after a good friend dies. If Padme had somehow lived I just know she would be the one leading the rebellion.

    While Mon was already leading the rebellion when Bail died it was probably a huge blow for her and the rebellion

    She also likely survived to see the second destruction of the Jedi Order and perhaps even the destruction of the new republic. She has lived a pretty ****** life, but she always carried on. And stepped up when it was required
     
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  8. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I really don't know if this is trolling or not. And so I don't know if I should respond or not. And so...I will. I'm not sure how to say this, but the Star Wars franchise is explicitly anti-authoritarian in all respects. In no way, shape or form is this content leaving the following question open to interpretation: "Is authoritarianism (fascism, whatever you want to call it) possibly good?" It has a firm answer to that question. No. And in that context, the person in a spousal unit that scoffs at the other person's concern over the commitment of a massacre by an Imperial is, quite clearly and unequivocally, in the wrong. And the person in that spousal unit who is, on the other hand, risking their life against that authoritarian system, is, quite clearly and unequivocally, in the right.

    In no way is it a legitimate interpretation of this show that Mon Mothma is a bad wife, a bad mother, and a bad person for being committed to opposing the Empire. There is nothing indicating that this is what the creators of the show intended. I mean, even within your insane reading of the show, what exactly did Mon Mothma do to demonstrate she is a "bad wife" vis-à-vis her husband?

    The Imperials in this show are very nuanced, but they are presented as...being in the wrong. There's no way around that. If you really think the Empire is a better system than the Republic, then...you're probably watching the wrong content.

    Now if you're trolling or joking, and I've wasted my time, so be it. Actually, I'd prefer that. As it would be a little disconcerting to have an actual fascist sympathizer on this forum.
     
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  9. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Jedi Master star 3

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    I'm not a troll. Just expressing my opinion, different from... well, democratic? Does that make it wrong? Not at all. You just don't like it. Let's agree on this. But yes, I consider the Republic - the Old one and especially the New one - to be a mess.

    I haven't been on the forum for a long time...
    Is there a rule that prohibits loving the Empire and/or some of its characters?

    And what form of government is good? There is no single answer.

    There is no point in arguing. I just wrote my little opinion about a character that I didn't like anyway, and now I don't like it at all.
     
  10. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    And so that happened.
     
  11. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Well this was enlightening.
     
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  12. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    More like endarkening, amirite?
     
  13. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    This is now the Moff Monma thread.
     
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  14. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Mal Mothmama
     
  15. CloneBlooper

    CloneBlooper Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Classic internet.
     
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  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    You can truly find some of the tales of all time anywhere on the internet. It’s fascinating and concerning that people with such takes actually exist. And there are thousands of them.
     
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  17. King_of_Red_Lions

    King_of_Red_Lions Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In Ahsoka, will Mon Mothma have a role larger than a one scene appearance via hologram or will she be a cameo only?
     
  18. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    We don’t know.
     
  19. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Yes, she will.

    Whether any of that is shown on screen is another matter.
     
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  20. King_of_Red_Lions

    King_of_Red_Lions Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Obviously, you’re correct. We don’t know.
    I speculate she’s going to be a one episode cameo, in the scene featured in the trailer, rather than a recurring character
     
  21. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I hope we get more than one Mothma cameo, and that the NR doesn’t once again (as in Mando S3) serve as primarily a punching bag.
     
  22. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I'm predicting we'll get one episode that's all about Mon Mothma. It's becoming a tradition.
     
  23. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    The NR doesn't come across well in either TM, TBOBF or TFA. It struggles to deal with lawlessness and the vacuum of power in it's early days and it fails to see the rise of the FO in it's final years.
     
  24. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Master star 4

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    Might be worth checking in on Boba Fett for an episode standing around doing nothing as well.
     
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  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Hey he deserves it after Ahsoka popped up in his show. Still one of the weirdest decisions in all of Star Wars.
     
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