Mini Series My Homeboy Torbin: A Defense of the Paupers' Son

I guess you've had your mind possessed and its no biggie, eh?

He agreed to Aniseya's seduction. He asked her what he wanted, as he cried. She said kneel. His eyes went back and he did. He failed as a Jedi, at its core.

Sol and Torbin started this. Torbin raced off to save the day once he knew this might complete his mission and go back home. And it all led to 50+ witches dying, Sol killing Aniseya, a little girl also dying, and a cover up of these events. And by the way, the Wookie went into exile. Drawing ruins on his home. Yeah, no effect on his mental well-being at all, right?

You really do seem to ignore the very obvious.

 

Who knows. its never been acknowledged to whether there was any mental damage either way. Not sure why you would assume there would be if honest. Outside of needing an excuse for something that happens later.

To fail as a jedi is to be taken over and do what they say? really? Or is that that he told the witch the ancient jedi secret of... he just wanted to go home.

So he rushed off because he desperately wanted to go home and thought he could just get the mission over with.

Oh the little girl dying is the one who turned up and offered him poison. He didn't seem particularly shocked. Infact instead of righting a wrong he chose to escape it.

You might be reading too much into his character if honest. He wasn't particularly stronger willed.

 

Yeah.

Dead children, dead coven,.mind posession, attacked by his own comrade, physically scarred, lonely, needing to impress, young lad, asked to cover up, failure, wrong decisions, regret, guilt, powerlessness. It's all there (if not brilliantly portrayed).

I think the fact that strong Master Kelnacca also succumbed to events and isolated himself and Master Indara is in the middle of nowhere, suggests they too were all badly affected. Sol is evidently affected.

Why can't Tolbin be?

I don't think the show portrays this as deeply as it could have, so we have to project on to their characters a bit.

 

Who knows? Its literally acknowledged in the series. He succumbed to temptation that was offered to him, while knowing very clearly that his person was a dark sider, or so he believes. Have you been watching Star Wars long? That's ... been there since '77.

I feel like at this point you're not really arguing in good faith here. Which isn't really new. You want to criticize the writing? Fine. Think it's not good whatever? Fine. Doesn't match the only good SW that is The Last Jedi? That's your business. But you can't say that the story isn't about how this event affected him, or that it simply isn't there, because that's literally what has happened. His mind was invaded. He gave in to base temptation. He knelt before a dark sider's seduction to appeal to his own desires. He then was part of an attack on witches which saw their deaths, along with kids, and couldn't live with those shameful choices.

 

We have some key details about Torbin that we can and should definitely read into. That's what we're supposed to do with minimalist fiction.

"Pauper" isn't a detail to ignore. And his desires for "importance and meaning" fit right into this.

Then when we consider his huge failure on Brendok, which led to the death of over 50 people, it's obvious that he would have even more guilt and self-loathing than normal because of his yearning to be someone.

So the subtext does exist to form a logical and coherent interpretation of Torbin's character.

However, just because we can understand Torbin, that doesn't mean the show really made us feel what he felt. On that level, I think the show fails pretty well.

But even with minimal information, we can form a perfectly reasonable interpretation that goes beyond the obvious "he wanted to go home."

Home here has a lot of meaning for the character, and we know what that meaning is.

 

I don’t feel there’s much of a need to analyze Torbin and his whims. His whole raison d'etre appears to be to show the audience that the Jedi recruitment process is severely impaired.