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  1. Space_Man

    Space_Man Jedi Youngling star 3

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    EnforcerSG: ...why that is the case?

    I hate to over-simplify, but I think it is largely attributable to the pervasive societal misconception that nakedness ALWAYS = sexuality. And, of course, that's not necessarily true....
     
  2. dizfactor

    dizfactor Jedi Knight star 5

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    Granted, I've no problem with the concept of nudity, but when you shake your stuff around for the sake of arousal, it takes away from any communication your actual SONG may have to do.

    why? i don't understand that now and i never really have. at best, it's apples and oranges. i don't feel that way. i actually know a good number of people who dance around naked or what-have-you with some frequency and who are also brilliant professionals (neuroscientists, information theorists, artists, whatever) at the same time. there's no loss of credibility involved. the two don't have anything to do with each other.

    Hell with that, I've been to nude beaches where there are old people.

    It's not that "if so-and-so looks good, they should be able to walk around naked". If that's the case, we need to outlaw Speedos. No one looks good in them, not even my husband's stepfather, who is only 42 and has a nice shape.


    i think more people need to see ugly people naked. you get over it really quickly.

    "it goes against [insert cult leader here]."

    [face_laugh]
     
  3. liberalmaverick

    liberalmaverick Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Those that say people should not be allowed to walk around naked because old/ugly people might do so, forget that hot people might also do so.
     
  4. AUNTIE_JEDI

    AUNTIE_JEDI Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You went to school with Ewan? Cool!

    Do you really believe this...
     
  5. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm a huge fan of the TV Show SURVIVOR, and in Season 1 and the current ALL STARs season, we have been treated (?) to Richard Hatch, an openly gay man, somewhat overweight, whom is actually a member of some nudist society. And of course, we have been treated (?) to Richard Hatch parading around naked in virtually every episode of this ALL STAR season, as he has gone spear fishing while naked, and even speared several eels and a shark while spear fishing in the nude.

    What does this mean?

    I don't know!! It is funny to watch, though.
     
  6. darth-italia

    darth-italia Jedi Youngling star 1

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    libido did go to guildhall at the same time as ewan, at least according to his bio.
     
  7. liberalmaverick

    liberalmaverick Jedi Youngling star 3

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    TripleB:
    And of course, we have been treated (?) to Richard Hatch parading around naked in virtually every episode of this ALL STAR season, as he has gone spear fishing while naked, and even speared several eels and a shark while spear fishing in the nude.

    I believe Hatch responded to a question about this with something like, "It's 100 degrees. It's humid. Why should I wear clothes?"

    My point exactly. Sensibilities aside, why should anyone have to wear clothes in unbearably hot weather? Other than not grossing others out or damaging some arbitrary "moral code", I can't think of any reason.
     
  8. darth_libido

    darth_libido Jedi Youngling star 3

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    i was just starting at guildahall when ewan was finishing, i didn't say we were good mates, we just used the same men's loo!
     
  9. yoda_no_rio

    yoda_no_rio Jedi Youngling star 1

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    it gets very hot down here in brasil, and everybody is basically naked at the beach, or wearing as little as possible in the street. i mean there's the famous brazilian bikini, and there are plenty of less public beaches around rio de janeiro, where people can just go about naked. i go to one of these with some friends all the time, it's much more laid back, and quiet. and there's no risk of getting your tshoes or anything stolen! we go usually as 5 or six guys and girls, and just have a good time, smoking joints, drinking beers. this is always especially nice when it's extremely hot.
     
  10. Qonas

    Qonas Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This goes hand-in-hand with a column I read concerning Howard Stern's recent removal from Clear Channel:

    "I think its a shame he was reprimanded. I don't think people understand whats at stake here. We need to coarsen public discourse as much as possible as quickly as possible, because a free and open society depends on the right of Pink to flash her ***** at the next Superbowl. I'm serious: if we don't see a ***** on the Jumbocam, this nation is OVER. (Breast, ***** - what's the diff? Please don't tell me you're one of those bluenoses who thinks a boob's okay but explicit gyno topography is somehow unsuitable for prime-time. It's the HUMAN BODY, people; what's your hang up? ) I'm tired of people who think that it's the role of large media chains to hit the panic button when a caller to Sterns show calls him a f--ing k-ke, and bleeps Howard when he says the caller a sh-head ch-nk. People! Come on! What is this country coming to when people can't call other people sh-thead ch-nks on the public airwaves?

    You know what was the best part of the whole Janet Jackson thing? The ugliness of it all. The ugly outfits, the ugly choreography, the whole dank S&M feel. Ugly is edgy and edgy is cool and the words of the prophets are written on subway cars, maaaan. Imagine - some people insist the public sphere should aspire to a higher standard where men know more than seven words, and women don't pop out a floppy tit in prime time to show us how dangerous they are. There are people who think we should aim up, not down.

    F those people. F anyone who wants a standard. The future of civilized conversation depends on men brave enough to ask educated Nigerian immigrants if they ever ate a monkey, and whether men who appeared on Paris Hilton pron tapes slammed a partner up the butt. God bless Stern. It's good to know he's speaking out on the issues that matter, and paying the price."
     
  11. Stackpole_The_Hobbit

    Stackpole_The_Hobbit Jedi Master star 6

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    You can't use that letter, just so ya know.
     
  12. liberalmaverick

    liberalmaverick Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I really ought to pay a visit to Brazil sometime...
     
  13. AUNTIE_JEDI

    AUNTIE_JEDI Jedi Padawan star 4

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    OK, libido, sorry that I was so distrusting...

    Shame on me
     
  14. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    here's my two cents, i'm wiccan and occasionally i work skyclad. that is naked, and coven gather skyclad for their meetings. there is no shame, we feel free to worship as we do as we wish, free from trapings of everyday life.

    that is my opinion

    Ravenstar
     
  15. JediMasterKitFisto

    JediMasterKitFisto Jedi Knight star 6

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    I honestly dont think there is anything wrong with being Naked. If God wanted us to wear clothes he would have created them when h made everything else
     
  16. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    that's like saying if god intended us to fly he would have provided us with wings
     
  17. JediMasterKitFisto

    JediMasterKitFisto Jedi Knight star 6

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    I dont think we should be flying either, or driving.
     
  18. Stackpole_The_Hobbit

    Stackpole_The_Hobbit Jedi Master star 6

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    even speared several eels and a shark while spear fishing in the nude.

    Ewwww!

    Oh ... oh, nevermind. [face_blush]

    EDIT: I dont think we should be flying either, or driving.

    Then we shouldn't be using the internet either.
     
  19. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I dont think we should be flying either, or driving.

    By that logic, what are your feelings about science? Or modern medicine? Those things were also invented by human ingenuity rather than given by divine providence.
     
  20. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    By that logic, what are your feelings about science? Or modern medicine?

    Or computers, for that matter.
    If God wanted me to talk to you, he would put you here next to me.

    Oh yeah, be naked.


     
  21. DavethekingofRock

    DavethekingofRock Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Who wants to see naked men? Now, naked women, ok, no problem. I believe that women should opt for nakedness whenever the weather permits, but men should stay clothed. Better yet, men should be systematically eliminated....except me..
     
  22. Jedi-Monkey

    Jedi-Monkey Jedi Padawan star 4

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    By that logic, what are your feelings about science? Or modern medicine? Those things were also invented by human ingenuity rather than given by divine providence.

    But science and modern medicine provide positive results. The invention of clothing has simply given moral crusaders a shield to hide behind when trying to impose their views on others.

    By the way, as the manager of an adult video store, I have absolutely no problem with nakedness. :D :D :D
     
  23. rpeugh

    rpeugh Force Ghost star 4

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    About the prospect of showing Christ naked in the Passion: This wouldnt be possible anyway because Jim Caviezel refuses to perform nude scenes due to his religious Catholic beliefs. In the movie with Ashley Judd, he wouldnt even show his backside. And I for one wouldnt want to see Caviezel scratched from the film just because he wouldnt pose nude. His performance as Christ was too good.
     
  24. Space_Man

    Space_Man Jedi Youngling star 3

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    rpeugh Jim Caviezel refuses to perform nude scenes due to his religious Catholic beliefs.

    :confused: Forgive my ignorance -- and here's hoping that you yourself are Catholic, and can provide a detailed explanation -- but in what way does Catholicism dictate that its members cannot appear nude in a film?
     
  25. rpeugh

    rpeugh Force Ghost star 4

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    LOL. I have no idea. You are asking the wrong person as I am an agnostic. I just heard them say somewhere in an article that it was against his religious beliefs, and I know he is Catholic. But I think there are atleast 2 different types of Catholicism.
     
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