Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 58 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

They could always add that skunk stripe to his hair. And for a cameo, it could probably work, but even in the later TNG movies the age was starting to show. Well, as long as they don't try to force in silly action scenes (like the dune buggy) it could probably work.

I'm not sure how long starships are meant to last. Like we see the Excelsior and Miranda classes from TOS to the Dominion War, although by then they were probably just throwing every spaceworthy ship they had left. And AGT had the Enterprise-D retired, only still serving as Riker's personal flagship (but with substantial upgrades). Or maybe it depends on how efficient a design is or whether their role is still needed. Like the Excelsior turned out to be a great general purpose design. Then you have things like the Ambassador and Constellation classes also being developed and dropped in between the TOS and TNG eras. Heh, imagine if they brought back the Akira class for this new TV series.

 

Brent Spiner has specifically said that his age was the reason why he decided to retire Data, but he has also said that if all playing Data required of him was voice work, he be perfectly happy playing Data forever. With the state of special effect these days, I could easily see them constructing a digital Data, in the same way as Princess Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One to get around that problem.

 

If the show does well I expect a lot of character cameos.

 

Has anyone ever tried to explain why there was a 20 year gap between C and D?

 

Maybe whoever was at Starfleet at the time believed it was an unlucky name and was hesitant to apply it to a new ship?

 

Very exciting news!

 

dp

 

Clearly they were too busy negotiating a longterm peace agreement with the Klingons to bother making a new Enterprise.

 

The most likely explanation is the simplest -- because the ship was destroyed earlier than planned, and because the Galaxy-class ships were already in design phase (and not knowing it'd be the longest ever) as of 2343, they waited to make it the flagship of the new design.

 

Maybe that was part of the negotiations. "As long as the starship Enterprise lives, there can be no peace!" But the Federation delegates managed to haggle the Klingons down to a 20 year hiatus.

On a more serious note, do we know if Starfleet knew E-C was destroyed fighting Romulans over a Klingon world? If word never got to HQ and they apparently vanished under unknown circumstances, maybe the brass waited 20 years before C was declared lost with all hands presumed dead.​

 

They knew about the fight at least - it was a major factor in thawing of relations between the Federation and the Klingons:

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Narendra_III

 

Yeah, the not knowing what happened to it was the "Yesterday's Enterprise" timeline where it "disappeared" because it went through the temporal rift and ended up with the Enterprise-D; in the proper timeline everyone knew what happened to it.

 

Well, they didn't know about the survivors who got captured by the Romulans, but that episode sucked, so...

 

You have disappointed Empress Sela...

 

The Trek EU had a fairly good novel (Vulcan's Heart) based around those events - Spock, Saavik, Picard, and Charvanek (female Romulan commander from the TOS episode The Enterprise Incident) all have arcs.

 

GOOD, HER PREMISE WAS STUPID.

 

Oooh so it's going to be a super gritty road trip adventure where an aging/dying Data takes an aging/dying/senile Picard on a quest to save a little girl who is a human/romulan hybrid!

 

Yes, the Klingons were impressed that the crew of a Federation starship would fight to death to defend the colony of a known enemy.

 

And it was the deciding factor in keeping war from breaking out between the Federation and the Klingon, as we saw from that alternate timeline.

Has there ever been any other lore about the Ambassador-class? Its probably the class with the least amount of screentime, compared to the Constitution, Excelsior, Galaxy and Sovereign-class Enterprises. I forgot there was such a large gap between the C and D.

Whereas the Enterprise-E launched very quickly after Generations, but then the Sovereign-class ships were probably just about ready when the Enterprise-D was lost (at least the saucer section worked out well). EDIT: Though I was always interested in the Enterprise-E's somewhat more militant design, as a cross between the peacetime Galaxy-class and Starfleet's later more heavily armed ships, probably partially due to the Borg attack.

It'd be fun if they took the opportunity to come up with a new design for an Enterprise-F (STO has the Odyssey-class, I believe?). The Enterprise-E is still going strong in the novels, though newer ships with newer tech are popping up there. Though a Prometheus-class ship being at Procyon-V probably shouldn't be taken too seriously, after all the time travel madness, but that'd be a long service life.

 

Is there any lore about STID and STB being nothing but a fevered dream of Christopher Pike while he was a prisoner of Nero's?

 

You say that like those are the only bad movies in this franchise.

 

For that matter, this "Nero" was only a figment of Pike's illusions when he went back to be with Vina and the Talosians.