New Republic Capital Ships - still sorting out the mess... (Fleet Junkies- HO!)

Ought to be an index for this thread...
i.e.
Page 27: Discussion of Nebula vs Defender class name
Page 28: Debate on widespread use of Tie Defenders
Page 29: Arguement over the spelling of Dreadnought vs Dreadnaught

ect...

 

The only designation I can remember for E-wings that comes close is their Series numbers.

Given that Fretek was formed from a branch of Incom, and Incom used T-## for their products, I wonder if the pattern carried on to the E-wing.

 

Wow, haven't posted in this topic recently...

Anyone knows where I can find detailed history of the ISD? Creting the design, building of the first ship, entering service, battle history and so on?

 

About that, all we know is that by the time of RotS, Venators were ALREADY being phased out in favor if Imperators. After the Jedi purge, they were renamed Imperials (and presumably given that white paint job). (RotS ICS)

I think the Imperial-II was developed after Yavin. Death Squadron contained a mix of Is and IIs.

Also, I think the designer of the Victory was named Walex Blizzex, and his daughter designed the Imperator. Walex Blizzex later designed the A-wing with General Dodonna.

 

You guys mind if i join your little party? You could sya i'm a fleet junky. Notebooks full of ship info, dozens of web sites.

 

check this site out The Complete Guide to Star Destroyers

 

Cool. Man, i really need to get that newest book!

Anyway, are you guys working on anythign in perticular at the moment? Or just small questions. Is the the place with that AWESOME capital ship encyclopedia thing?

 

I haven't finished the book yet, but I would first wonder where the hell the GFFA fleet had gone to.

 

I haven't read the Black Fleet Crisis books yet, but i really want to, but the New Class vessels, are they only put into the 5th Fleet? Are they in any other of the fleets of the NR?

 

That site's pretty outdated. I think its last update was before AOTC was released. There's no mention of the Venator.

The testbed for the first Imperator-class Star Destroyer was laid down before the conclusion of the Clone Wars. The ISD was in service soon after the war's conclusion.

 

Yeah. But i thought it might help. Have you guys checked out Kwenn's Encyclopedia? Nothing on Imperial SDs, mostly ep.2-3 stuff, but it might say something in the Venator section.

Kwenn's

 

Other then in the BFC we don't hear much about other New Class vessels, but they would have spread out into the rest of the NRDF given between after the clone Emperor's attacks and the end of the GCW they were the newest capital ship designs in the NR and they would have replaced some of the older and less capable warships.

Despite never hearing about the ships of the New Class line we assume that there would be a fair number of these vessels floating around the fleet of the NR/GFFA.

Whether the GFFA still produces them we don't know since a new range of ships came into the fleet following the end of the GCW. I'll go through the new ships:

- the Ranger Class gunship entered service just prior to the Vong war and we have seen that they are primarily a anti-starfighter ship, while of the ship type as the New Class' Warrior class Gunship the Warrior is angled more towards capital ship combat but it is still a possible replacement.

- The Bothan Assault Cruiser is slated as a replacement for the Victory Star Destroyer and came into service before the Vong war, but given its size and armaments it is a possible replacement for the Majestic class given they are both mid-sized cruisers with significant starfighter compliments

- Republic class cruiser was born of the Vong war as a quick to produce cruiser. Possible replacement for the Majestic or even the Sacheen escort.

- Mediator Battlecruiser is a large Mon Calamari cruiser that is larger then the famed Imperial Star Destroyer. Entering service during the peace following the end of the GCW it appears to be the next in the evolution of the Mon Cal cruiser. So it could be seen as a replacement for the Nebula/Defender Star Destroyer.

- Viscount Star Defender is the largest Mon Calamari built vessel and entered service just as the war started. It fills a role no NR designed ship has ever filled. The only vessel we can compare it to in the NR is the Super Star Destroyer. The New Class has nothing to compare.

- Rejuvenator Star Destroyer is the latest Star Destroyer in the Fleet. Another vessel born of the conflict with the Vong it is basically a Star Destroyer interdiction vessel. Possible replacement for the Nebula/Defender.

- Strident Star Defender is a large Corellian made vessel. If it is anything like the Viscount...

The only New Class vessels without replacements are the Picket and carriers.

 

Thanks. Is this thread goign to make a new version of those encyclopedia/compedium things with all the captital ships again?

 

Can anyone tell me much about the Vindicator-class Star Destroyer from MotS?

 

MotS? What is that? If you tell me the actual source name, i might be able to help. sounds familiar.

 

I think it's "Mystery of the Sith", an expansion for SW: Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight.

 

Sinrebirth:

No, Corellia never fell to Vong attack. The Battle Dragon's that Leia mentions seeing were the ones that massed with the NR fleet at Corellia before the Battle of Fondor, in which most of the old Hapan fleet was lost. Corellia was one of the staging points for the combined forces that had originally planned to use the Centerpoint as bait to attract the Vong and suprise them.

--Adm. Nick

 

Sure we aren't mixing up with the no Grav-well projector version of the Interdictor cruiser?

 

I doubt the 'New Class' designs have been retired from service. They were not species specific in origin like the MON CAL-CORELLIAN Star Defenders or the BOTHAN Assault Cruisers. The Republic Engineering Corporation is more generalized. The Mon Cals, Bothans, and etc. put their species specific designs on loan to the New Republic/Galactic Alliance. These species specific ships are on loan to supplement the standardized REC built fleet. So it is very doubtful that the Defender/Nebula Class Star Destroyer would be replaced by a Mon Cal-Corellian Star Defender. However the introduction of the Rejuvenator Class Star Destroyer suggests that instead of building replacements for lost D/NSD during the Vong War the NR/GA phased in a new REC star destroyer design instead. Once the conflict was over all species specific designs returned to their places of origin.

 

Well, I don't think that the latter Mon Cal cruisers which were optimized for inter species use (like that Yavin from New Rebellion) would have gone back to the Mon Cal gov't proper once the Vong war was over.

 

I don't think that's how the GFFA fleet works. It's more like the Bothans and the Mon Cals gave their fleets to GFFA/NR and it's more likely they were not on loan. They were probably paid for somehow and donated to the GFFA. Highly unlikely, else the GFFA fleet strength would be pathetic. Mon Cal cruisers have comprised the bulk of the NR/GFFA fleet since the Rebellion.

 

I think Mon Cal warships are the back-bone of the NR/GFFA. Surronded by Star Destroyers, and then the other vessels, but i think the Mon Cal ships have always remained the backbone of the NR fleet, haven't they?

 

They have been since the days of the Rebellion.

Also, it will really screw things up if the Govt has to petition for additional forces every now and then.