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No More Wookiee Jedi?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Havac , Jan 29, 2006.

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  1. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    And I give thanks that they do.
     
  2. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Oh, then I strongly suggest you don't read the Malazan series. Women, ah, don't get raped and frontline soldier along with males.
     
  3. MaskedVader

    MaskedVader Jedi Youngling

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    sorry guys what is the EU
     
  4. MaskedVader

    MaskedVader Jedi Youngling

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    forget it, i no now lol
     
  5. Winged_Jedi

    Winged_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    EDIT: Then you don't need this incredibly detailed essay-length explanation after all, then. :p
     
  6. MaskedVader

    MaskedVader Jedi Youngling

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    ok thanks mate
     
  7. YodaSlayerofEwalks

    YodaSlayerofEwalks Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sure no problem with hunter crazy barabels or retarded Gungen morons(who knows its not forbidden) being jedi But to the proud and insanly loyal wooks...no...its not like a wook would ever betray the order,esspecially if it saved its life even once(probable). Ill venture a guess that the new tv show features some wook jedi getting killed and that GL thinks well all mistake that one for any of the other wook jedi. Like the Anikan solo thing Honestly that was the most condecending attitude ever to assume we all would be confused about two people with the same first name. he must have a preatty low opinion of us all. I thinks he still assumes were a bunch of six year olds who wouldnt know the difference. Im still thankful he gave us the saga and still respect him. Maybe he should respect us a little

    N-sync seriously i never heard that. That makes me sick.
     
  8. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Like the Anikan solo thing Honestly that was the most condecending attitude ever to assume we all would be confused about two people with the same first name. he must have a preatty low opinion of us all.

    What are you talking about? Seriously, I'm wondering.


    sorry guys what is the EU

    European Union
     
  9. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Supposedly, George had Anakin Solo killed off in the NJO instead of Jacen Solo because he felt that people would confuse the two Anakins. Don't know exactly how true the rumor is, though.
     
  10. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The story, I believe, is not that he had Anakin Solo killed, but that he said he couldn't be the hero of the NJO, so LFL swapped Jacen and Anakin's stories.
     
  11. YodaSlayerofEwalks

    YodaSlayerofEwalks Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "I would characterize his[george lucas] role as limited but imporant. He's the one who said the alien invaders couldnt be dark side force users, that we couldent kill luke,that we had to kill Anakin instead of Jason (we had originally planned it the other way around)." - Shelly Shapiro Editorial Director Del Ray Books (in the interview section at the end of paperback Unifying force)

     
  12. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That quote later turned out to be untrue, and the VIPs admitted as such.

    Del Rey ALWAYS had a plan to kill one Solo brother, and make the other the hero.

    Originally, Jacen would die, and Anakin was to be the hero.

    However, Lucas said that Jacen should be the NJO hero - since having two Anakins being hero in a row would cause some confusion.

    So, Del Rey swapped the role.

    The decision to ice Anakin, however, was purely Del Reys.
     
  13. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That quote later turned out to be untrue, and the VIPs admitted as such.

    How so? (Pardon me for dragging us off topic).
     
  14. YodaSlayerofEwalks

    YodaSlayerofEwalks Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hey, can we all just agree Wookies rock?
     
  15. cyris8400

    cyris8400 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I know this is easily counterable, but, on the "no more Wookiee Jedi for the sake of avoiding repeition": while we're at it, we should ban humans from becoming Jedi ever again because it would be repeititous.

    I think this species list is most unfair, unless it has an expiration date (i.e.: no new Wookiee Jedi until 2010 or after 200 ABY). It's just a principle, and not because I like Wookiees or Wookiee Jedi. Similar to how I feel about the idea of Gungan Jedi: Lord knows Gungans are retarded and I hate them, but I'll fight for their rights to exist and be able to become Jedi! Same with Gamorrean and Toydarian Jedi: the idea might be kind of weird, but what about Piggy and Gartogg? They weren't angry brutes, and Piggy at least wasn't stupid, and banning them from Jedidom just furthers stereotypes. So what if they're stupid. Vornskrs are Force-sensitive non-sentients! And Toydarians: are they banned because they're stereotyped as swindlers (what about Rozatta!) or that they're immune to mind tricks, or (for the worst reason of all) that they're just ugly?

    On a sidenote, I'll totally drop my arguement if Wookiee Jedi and other said parties can become Jedi but just can't be featured as characters in stories.

    And about who holds power over Star Wars: What good is a story if no one listens to it? Fans are the ones with true power. George and the LFL bigwigs just know that the majority will buy Star Wars things, and more for the fact that it's labeled "Star Wars" than if it's actually good or worth your money and time (that was Lucasarts' philosophy up until recently, so I heard).
     
  16. Rawtooth

    Rawtooth Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I just had a thought... What if the reason thare are no more Wookiee Jedi is because they are going to be involved in the TV series?

    Didn't Lucas do the same thing with the Clone Wars and Palpatine's rise to power during the Bantam era?
     
  17. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That has been suggested, and it might be the case, but there's also the fact that there's a whole list of non-Jedi species, which goes against the TV-theory.
     
  18. Master_Keralys

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    The plan was to kill one of the Solo twins, and make the other one the hero. The original plan was to kill Jacen and have Anakin play the role Jacen now does in the series (and vice versa, of course... everyone would have liked Jacen and hated Anakin, etc.). Lucas said, plainly and simply, that they couldn't make Anakin the hero. In the context, that meant they had to either (a) change plans or (b) kill off the other one. Rather than taking (a), they chose to kill Anakin. Basically, Lucas told them they couldn't have Anakin be the hero... they said for a long time that he'd said they had to kill him; all he really did was say he couldn't be the hero... which of course meant that if they were going to kill one brother and make the other the hero, Anakin had to go.

    - Keralys
     
  19. jSarek

    jSarek VIP star 4 VIP

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    I know you wrote this a while ago, and probably won't see my response, but in case you do . . .

    Nonsense. That's like saying that knowing the names of stars, their spectral classes, and the mechanics of stellar fusion and cosmology would only lessen my enjoyment of looking at the night sky. Rather, it makes it better - I can look at the sky and know what I'm looking at and why it looks that way, or I can simply forget about that and just enjoy the sky. It becomes my choice how much I want to bring of that into my stargazing.

    So, please, don't be afraid to divulge things just because it led fans to be whiny and argue. It's not like we won't find something else to be whiny and argue about.
     
  20. Darth_gloom

    Darth_gloom Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I don't understand why Lucas would do this. Wookie Jedi are great!
     
  21. WraithLead

    WraithLead Jedi Master star 3

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    did anyone ever get clarification on whether wookies couldn't be jedi or couldn't be force sensitive? important difference. but i wouldn't really be worried about it either way.
     
  22. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    [face_laugh]


    Sorry, but no. The fans own exactly 0 of Star Wars :)
     
  23. JaySkywalker01

    JaySkywalker01 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    GL does respect the fans. I believe so. Argue with me all you want...I still believe it.

    Aren't a lot of you Sci-Fi/Fantasy creators yourselves? How would you feel if you set up a universe and went through and lost so much (as Lucas did) to create it and turn it into what it is now and then have someone come along wanting it to satisfy their view? Honestly, you'd be angered to the point of violence and we are lucky that Lucas delegates the EU to authors who seem to care about the fans and producing quality work. Honestly, he could wipe out the whole EU faster than the 501st could take out the hidden Gungan city, but he doesn't. That shows respect right there. It's just selfish to say that it's wrong of Lucas to put a rule on his own universe.

    This is his universe and with our creations, we are playing with our toys in his driveway. We can't really complain if he backs the car up and runs over our toys.

    Also, it is entirely inaccurate to compare the no wookie rule to racism. These wookies are FICTIONAL keep in mind. Are there any of them around here to offend?

    And furthermore, you have the right to create your own universe and do whatever you want with it. Lucas also has that right I am proud he still exercises it.
     
  24. cyris8400

    cyris8400 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I understand why George should have some control, but I have a hard time understanding how he can make up stupid rules like No More Wookiee Jedi with no apparent logic behind it.

    It takes more than "George Lucas says so" for me to take something as canon, especially when no other author or source mentions it because they all secretly disagree but can't openly oppose him without getting the boot.

    As in, if Lucas got senile and really disenchanted with his universe and said Luke died at 43 from a spice overdose, I wouldn't believe it.
     
  25. JaySkywalker01

    JaySkywalker01 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You wouldn't have to believe it...but that still wouldn't make it any less true. Why can he make up stupid rules? Because it is his perogative. And anyway, we don't know his reasoning for this rule. One day, something might happen that will make us all say "Oh...NOW I understand." Meanwhile, I am content with our Chadra-fan jedi...they're cute.

    Are ewoks on this list I wonder?
     
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