" No, No, No , R4 , nothing too FANCY ".........

... Does this mean that ObiWan's flying manuevers and tactics , while trying to dodge the Missles was being controlled and Aided by his Astro Droid R4?. because the " Nothing to Fancy ", line suggests that R4 is the one doing the Manuevering and Dodging. Does this mean also that Anakin's great , legendary flying Skills are also Droid Aided?. I thought the Jedi "let go" , like Luke didin ANH , and let the Force take over their actions. but it seems in the PT that Droids are widely used to aid their flying skills.

And why would a Jedi need a droid to help them fly?. i thought it odd that ObiWan say's this to R4. i know R2D2 helped Luke with ship functions, but i never thought he helped actually fly the ship.

 

interesting. I don't really know to what extent the Droids help fly the Ships. this line does suggest that R4 was controlling the manuevers in part or in whole. ObiWan looked more like he was riding in that scene, as opposed to flying.

 

yes, R4 was piloting the ship. Obi-wan didnt like flying and wasn't into doing stunts even when he did. Obi isnt a fighter pilot he's a damn good swordsman.

 

Ahh..this could be where Anakin's superior piloting abilities come into play. Obi Wan probably is ok at doing basic flying manuevers, but the really difficult ones, he let's R4 take the controls. And I'm betting that to Anakin, these are where he really gets to show his stuff, and Artoo pretty much supports him.

 

^^^very true I believe he might've had it on autopilot or R4 was telling to do barrelrolls to avoid fire or something.

 

I think this is one of those moments that show how different the Jedi from the PT are from those of the OT. Anakin and Obi-Wan, although exceptional pilots and talented Force users, are relying heavily on machinery and equipment. Their starfighters and astromechs are integral to their fighting abilities. But what about the importance of the Force? In the OT Luke puts away his targeting computer, he lets go of all dependence on technology to take out the Death Star. Luke and OT Obi-Wan and Yoda seem to give the Force more responsibility than they do in the PT. One of the themes of SW is technology vs. spirituality and nature. It is perhaps one of the dominoes stacked aganist the PT Jedi.

 

All wrong IMO!

Obi Wan is flying. R4 just sets up the ship for what Obi Wan wants to do.

Eg in AOTC he gets R4 jettison the spare part canisters to take out Jango's missiles.

R4 probably suggested doing something along those lines to Obi Wan but Kenobi decided against the idea, seeing that as too fancy for this situation.

Kenobi definitly flies the ship.

 

I doubt that R4 has anything to do with Obi-Wans flying. My guess is that there is a standard protocol for evading missiles such as those. R4 relays the message to obi-wan, who knows he would kill himself trying, so he decides to do it his own way.

 

Very Respectfully dissagree Shaitan.

When ObiWan say's this , he is clearly referring to the Manuever that R4 had him in at that moment. you can see the strain on his face. it's more than he wanted.

 

When ObiWan say's this , he is clearly referring to the Manuever that R4 had him in at that moment. you can see the strain on his face. it's more than he wanted.

I always thought that Obi Wan was just doing his usual haphazard flying and was in a bit of a mess and then R4 says something like - "Shall I activate missile decoy 2.4 Master" in which Kenobi replies - "No no no, nothing too fancy - (i'll handle it)".

I just dont think a droid could pilot a ship in that situation. They can take a ship to a destination but a jedi wouldnt rely on his/her droid in a dog fight. If droids could think...

 

The Jedi do fly their ships but the droids handle portions of the flying and shooting. It is in the book.

 

Quote "Flying is for droids." also proves that Obi-Wan doesn't like flying and maybe he did give R4 the flying control. (unlikely but possible)

 

I think the line may be partly related of some of the deleted footage.
Two major chunks of the opening battle were cut - one section before the opening dialogue we see in the film, and another afterwards involving the two Jedi actually engaging the Vulture Droids before letting them pass.

In the first deleted section (I forget the details) it was highlighted even more how Anakin relies on Artoo, with at least one scene involving Anakin instructing Artoo to take out some fighters.
I think Obi-Wan's line was put in as a contrast to that (in a lighthearted way).
Obi's droid does not have the enhancements Artoo has, and I think the gag was that R4 was maybe itching to emulate Artoo's earlier bravery and prowess.
"No, nothing fancy," being the reply from Obi.

The "nothing fancy" line still works without this context, but I think the intention was to tie it in with this idea of Artoo being enhanced by Anakin, who has, in turn, become very reliant on Artoo (symbolising Anakin himself becoming "mechanical").

 

If this is true, and the ships are truly flown by driods, then that makes R2 the best pilot in the galaxy!

 

It's only because R4's cool ...and decipitated.

 

I think this is pretty clear, the scene is a parallel thing on Obi/Anakin.

Obi Wan didnt like to fly, so in his case R4 has a lot of control over the ship, in the same scene we see Anakin giving orders to R2d2, wich means that, even though anakin has the coolest droid ever as a team mate, he (anakin)is on charge of the ship and all the flying manuevers.

 

Apparently, there's a lot of force usage involved in flying a Jedi Starfighter.

 

Exactly. I think he was just referring to nothing too fancy as in his flying tactics in order to avoid the homing missles....in contrast with Anakin where he reversed all thrusters and told R2 to stand by and spun his jedi star fighter and the missles explode into each other.

 

I agree.

 

Congratulations, you have successfully boggled my mind.

 

I think Ob1 was just under the influence as always and so, as always, R4 had to act as the designated driver.

You have to admit, Ob1 was staggering in the IH scenes. And don't blame that on the ship shaking... Anakin wasn't swaying about half as bad. Heck, Ob1 passed out when an 80-year old man kicked him. C'mon! He got kicked harder than that by Maul and didn't even break a sweat!

 

Remember this??

"No, that's okay. I'd like to keep it on manual control for a while." -Luke, in response to a question from R2.

Apparently the ships did have some kind of auto pilot...But I guess in ROTS I always believed R4 was only just SUGGESTING a certain set of evasion tricks, not ACTUALLY flying it FOR him...

 

"No, no, no, R4, nothing too fancy" *Uumph* .....

 

You have to put that line in its full context. Per the script :

Obi-Wan : They overshot us...
The second missle streaks next to Obi-Wans fighter and explodes. Obi-Wans ship rocks, and R4 screams as the starfighter rips through the explosion. Debris flies all around them.
Anakin : They're coming around.
Obi-Wan : Allright, R4. No, no. Nothing too fancy.



Also at the beginning of the movie, first line :

Anakin : There isnt a droid made that can outfly you, master, and no other way to get to the Chancellor.