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Obi-wan Fan Fiction

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by Master-Kenobi, Jun 26, 2003.

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  1. Master-Kenobi

    Master-Kenobi Jedi Master star 5

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    I was surfing the internet and I found some Obi-wan fan fiction so I read it and it had Qui-gon Spanking Obi-wan for something he did that was worng, I haven't written any fan fiction so I'm just wondering if any of you guys think Qui-gon would really do that?


    and if this is in the worng place I'm sorry
     
  2. Arldetta

    Arldetta Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, personally I don't think he would do that. Maybe assign extra meditations, but not really spanking.


    Unfortunately, you can always run into great fan fic and fan fic that isn't. But that's more or less what your taste is.

    If I start reading something, anything and it gets far fetched or silly I just stop and move on. But I find there are some truely wonderful interpretations of George's world that are worth the search. ;)
     
  3. AERYN_SUN

    AERYN_SUN Jedi Knight star 5

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    i never understood the popularity of obi-torture fanfics. i don't like seeing obi-wan in so much pain, and this spanking thing, is way over that line. :( not to mention, extremely out of character for qui-gon.

    ~aeryn
     
  4. Padawan_Jess_Kenobi

    Padawan_Jess_Kenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm an Obi-toturer myself, so I can't exactly say that I've not put the poor boy through harm. [face_mischief] I may torture him, hurt him, make him bleed, scream etc. but I would never ever make Qui-Gon hurt Obi-Wan physically. Never. Its the most out-of-character thing I have ever heard. I mean, I have this plot bunny I might develop where Qui-Gon gets "possessed" by something evil, thusfore hurts Obi-Wan. But I would never, let me repeat this, never write about Qui deliberatly hurting Obi. Its extremely out of character. I could never believe that Qui-Gon could get mad enough to hurt Obi-Wan. Especially since Obi has those cerulean gorgeous eyes of his that sparkle. [face_love] So no, I don't believe that Qui-Gon would ever do that, and I certainly don't like to read fics where he physically abuses Obi. A slap is slightly tolerable for me, but I still prefer not to read it, unless the story itself is supurb.
     
  5. CYNICAL21

    CYNICAL21 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I agree completely. While I have frequently portrayed Obi-Wan as being hurt - even badly hurt - by Master Insensitive Lout, it has never - and will never - be by means of physicial punishment. That is totally NOT Qui-Gon's style. The only possible exception MIGHT occur during saber training when a singe or two might reinforce a particularly painful lesson - but even then, if such an injury occurred, I think the Master would immediately see that his padawan was healed and well.

    I believe him to be a very demanding Master - and capable of being tremendously stern - but I cannot conceive of him ever striking Obi-WAn, for any reason.

    This - I hope - is an enlightened society the Jedi occupy.

    CYN
     
  6. AERYN_SUN

    AERYN_SUN Jedi Knight star 5

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    i have a question? what is the fascination with writing/reading torture fanfics? (i'd always wandered this, and i think this is the perfect thread to discuss them).

    ~aeryn
     
  7. Padawan_Jess_Kenobi

    Padawan_Jess_Kenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's exactly how I feel also, CYN.

    i have a question? what is the fascination with writing/reading torture fanfics? (i'd always wandered this, and i think this is the perfect thread to discuss them).

    Let me see if I can try to answer this well enough. Alright, first, let me get my obsessive fan-girlness for Obi out of the way. We all know Obi is really hot. Now, think about the poor boy looking helpless and hurt. Does that not make your heart dance? [face_love] Okay, now that that is out of my system, time for a better explanation. You see, Obi-Wan is extremely strong, as you have come to know, I'm sure. He's not like many other people, who would break down right away at being hurt. He toughs it out (Or at least tried to). Its could be the psychology of this character that makes him so great to torture. The way he puts others before himself. The way he doesn't think of his own pain, only others' pain. He is so strong, thus fan fic writers like to expand on that. We like to show how strong Obi-Wan is... and how weak. It breaks your heart, every time. Even mine, the cold and heartless person I am (I am an Obi-torturer after all). It makes you feel for him, give him pity. Plus, there is something really hot about Obi screaming, I don't know what it is. [face_mischief] [face_love] I know that wasn't too clear, its just hard to explain why we love/read/write Obi torture. ;)
     
  8. Master-Kenobi

    Master-Kenobi Jedi Master star 5

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    Well that's what I thought too Qui-Gon would ever spank Obi but there is a lot of fanfiction that has that in it, I've read stories where obi it's hurt and even tortured and I know Qui-Gon is strict but I sitll don't think the Jedi would have coporal punishment.

    any thought on the Jedi having Coporal punishment?

     
  9. Padawan_Jess_Kenobi

    Padawan_Jess_Kenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I know what you mean. There's a lot of fan fics like that. I'm very strongly against that idea of Qui-Gon spanking Obi-Wan. And I am also very against the idea of Jedi using Corporal Punishment. I also can't imagine them doing it. Its very out of character, and I really hate the idea. I may be a bit biased though, considering that I'm against Corporal Punishment in the real world, also. ;)
     
  10. Cascadia

    Cascadia Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I agree that Qui-Gon would never spank Obi-Wan, nor would he willfully hurt Obi-Wan physically. I don't think he would even slap him, but that's my opinion. It would be extremely out of character.
     
  11. PatttyB0123

    PatttyB0123 Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I do not like Qui-Gon spanking Obi-Wan. When I wrote one story where Qui-Gon was a evil man with Obi-Wan really hurt me. In this story Qui-Gon is bad with Obi because he thinks that the boy is a clone, and not his real padawan. I had hard time writting this story. I could not see Qui-Gon spaking his padawan.

    Qui-Gon will not spank his real padawan.

    I read one story where Qui-Gon tied up his padawan and turned me off from that story. really sick.. sick story.
     
  12. DarthBreezy

    DarthBreezy Chosen One star 6

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    Unfortunately, there is an odd obsession with dementing the "Master Padawan" relationship... Even though my personal character of favor is Anakin, I find the idea abhorrent myself in any fic...
     
  13. PatttyB0123

    PatttyB0123 Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oops! do not take me wrong.

    In my story Qui-Gon did not spank the clone. Well he was the real Obi-Wan, but the master did not know. I did not like the idea of spanking in this story. Obi-Wan never used corpoporal punishment with his wild padawan. (Anakin).
     
  14. obaona

    obaona Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm for corporal punishment in real life, but I would find it out of character for a Jedi to do it. Anyway, by the time a kid is a Padawan, they're too old for that.
     
  15. Master-Kenobi

    Master-Kenobi Jedi Master star 5

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    Well I'm glad some people agree with me


    and the story I read obi was 16 :eek:
     
  16. Arldetta

    Arldetta Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I concur with most of what people said. As Jedi I would believe they would be above such things. In real life a bit of phyiscal punishment might be suggested to validate a point, however out right abuse is unacceptable.

    As for the Ob-torture/char-torture fascination, I believe it stems from a primal need to nurture. As much as you might love someone, when they get hurt you immediately want to make it better or give them something to look forward to. Of course this goes to an extreme in the cases of char-torture fic, in which we place them in the worst possible situations only to comfort them later or have them perservere(sp?) I believe it is also the need to see someone deal with those horrible situations and still come out virtually alright, albeit a little worse for wear.

    Personally I'm a Obi-Torturer but I felt I've grown beyond all out physical into the depths of mental anguish which can be so much more fun. [face_devil]


    As I mentioned before, you'll always come across fics which are fantastic and other where your like, 'that's just not right.' But I believe that many of the fics on this site are much better than that. ;)


    Hope that help you.
     
  17. emimar

    emimar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Oh no!
     
  18. Master-Kenobi

    Master-Kenobi Jedi Master star 5

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    and I've read some really great fanfiction :)


    and as much as I don't always agree with GL, he's never had anything like that in the movies or the books (the ones I read anyways) and it is out of Qui-Gon's character
    I think
     
  19. PatttyB0123

    PatttyB0123 Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Obi-Wan never spank Anakin.
     
  20. AERYN_SUN

    AERYN_SUN Jedi Knight star 5

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    Of course this goes to an extreme in the cases of char-torture fic, in which we place them in the worst possible situations only to comfort them later or have them perservere(sp?)

    Writers write obi-torture fics to show his weaknesses/vulnerabiltity as a human. hmm, still not sure.

    how are obi-torture looked at in general on fanfic boards here? as stated above, there are some that go too far, so i'm wandering what the guidelines are here when it comes to the subject.

    ~aeryn
     
  21. Arldetta

    Arldetta Jedi Padawan star 4

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    LOL, I set the standard for physical torture when it was in question a while ago. And DarthBreezy set the standard for Jedi Nookie. ;)
     
  22. AERYN_SUN

    AERYN_SUN Jedi Knight star 5

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    so, what is the standard?

    ~aeryn
     
  23. Arldetta

    Arldetta Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, it's suposed to be something like as long as it fits in about 2 screens(although don't ask me exactly what that means because I don't know. ;) ) And not get too gory.

    This is what Jedi Galadrial said would be the limitations of Obi-Torture(Physical.)



    ?[That may be so, but you have been gone for hours. And that is still an offense.]? Slightly calmer, the small floating man pulled a strip of flexi-steel ribbing from a shelf behind him. His hand moved down to the controller, once again activating the impulse. Obi-Wan was rendered immobile as waves of torment crashed through him. A new agony ignited as the strip landed across his shoulders. Quickly and efficiently, Watto flogged the boy. Fifteen lashes in total were dealt but they were enough to make the suffering child cry out in protest. After the last stroke fell, Watto spat down at the imp, ?[You?re lucky you?re getting off light. Now close up.]? The Toydarian flew away without another thought. Curled in on himself, Obi-Wan wallowed in his wretchedness. Hugging himself to fend off the anguished remonstration of his body. Tears streaked his dusty cheeks, leaving distinguishable trails. He remained on the floor waiting for the distress to abate enough to allow movement.



    Um, so how was that? Sorry if it's not for you, but many out there enjoy this sort of thing. [face_blush]

     
  24. Amidala_Skywalker

    Amidala_Skywalker Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If anyone wants any further clarification on the subject on torture in general, send me a PM. I?d be happy to discuss the subject with you.
     
  25. Master-Kenobi

    Master-Kenobi Jedi Master star 5

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    Well I really don't care about the torture thing I just thought it was weird for Qui to spank Obi
     
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