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Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Darth Downunder, May 4, 2014.

  1. Ewan Tibbetts

    Ewan Tibbetts Jedi Padawan star 1

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    As has been said somewhere on this thread, Maul has already got his revenge. I think Maul will try to team up with Kenobi to take down the Sith. Ob-Wan will refuse because he must safeguard Luke.

    One of two things will happen after that:
    a): Kenobi refuses to let Maul leave with the knowledge of his location. Maul dies.
    b): Maul goes rage mode and attacks Kenobi. Maul dies.
     
  2. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Maul might plant a beacon to Tatooine though, he did the same thing in Atollon to threaten Kanan and Ezra.
     
  3. DarthTalgus

    DarthTalgus Force Ghost star 4

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    Seems like I must explain this in every Maul/Kenobi related thread. SOD confirmed that Maul still hates Kenobi and interviews in Rebels Recon confirms that he still wants revenge on Kenobi.
     
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  4. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    the guy was a Sith those guys feed on hate, and he had 10+ years of hate towards Kenobi that's not going to go away just because he killed Satine. Maul also seems a bit crazy over the years and seems to miss those old days which Kenobi was a part of.

    whether he wants revenge or mix of things, he's Overexcited at knowing Kenobi lives and at finding him.
     
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  5. Zejo the Jedi

    Zejo the Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Old Ben doing the 2 fingers pose is the best thing ever :p
     
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  6. The Mirificus

    The Mirificus Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think what's going to be interesting in this scene is that Maul isn't going to be the aggressor. Maul wants revenge against Obi-wan, but he also wants hope, and companionship, and legacy, and the past, and justice/revenge against the Sith/Empire. He wants a lot of stuff, and some of the things he wants conflict with other things he wants. I think it's significant that we see him making a seemingly arduous trek on foot across the Dune Sea. Archetypally, the walk in the wilderness is the time a character sorts out what is in his soul. I think by the time he arrives at Obi-wan's campsite, the man is even less sure of what he wants. But (he erroneously thinks) the Holocron vision told him to come here, so I predict it goes...

    Maul: (calls out to "Kenobi" or just stands there expectantly until he's noticed)
    Obi-Wan: Finally here for your revenge?
    Maul: I came here looking for hope.
    Obi-Wan: You're in the wrong place!

    It would be a beautiful exchange, that means so many things. Obi-Wan doesn't feel very hopeful right now, because of the state of the Galaxy. There is no hope for a man like Maul because "once down a dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." And a bit of 4th Wall for us in the audience; Maul's in the wrong place. He's not part of the core Star Wars story. That story's beginning soon, and it's about Luke. It doesn't even matter what Maul's intentions are -- to start a fight, to seek an ally, to find peace -- it doesn't matter. That's potentially very sad. When I listen to his musical theme, there's this low-pitched, dark undercurrent to it, but it also manages to be both hopeful and sad. Maul is a curse upon everyone he meets; even those he likes (his family, his race, the Death Watch) suffer and die for their association with him. Obi-Wan must keep him away from Luke.
     
  7. JariKokko

    JariKokko Jedi Padawan

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    I like the explanation of Lucas's intent there.

    Also, I read through the thread to see if anyone else had mentioned this idea yet - while Jinn very much shouldn't be showing up, I was thinking about this confrontation having to do with Force Ghosts more than revenge: Maybe as some have speculated, Maul is looking for a way to be immortal somehow, and that is why he was shown Obi-Wan in his vision with Ezra. I think it fits a lot nicer; that he's not just going there to kill him - he wants to learn to become more powerful than anyone could imagine. So far Maul has obviously had some kind of plan/motives - those couldn't have involved Obi-Wan - Maul didn't know Obi-Wan was around. During the holocron vision Maul would have been asking to see the things he wanted, and to be shown Obi-Wan means Obi is involved in what Maul wants - it's just unexpected that it's him and "he lives" still. To note, I'm generalizing the fact that we know Maul saw what Ezra wanted and Ezra saw what Maul wanted, but they both involved the same things essentially (go to Tatooine, Obi-Wan...who's watching over Luke).

    I would expect Obi to disappoint Maul and that leads to Maul having to try and kill him - even more twisty would be Maul somehow learns that why he's there. about Luke and who he is, but is cool with it because he also somewhat still wants the Sith to be destroyed.

    In the end though, I just want to echo the sentiments I've been seeing around the Rebels board - I do NOT think this belongs in this show at all, Obi-Wan, let alone Maul to begin with, or Ahsoka, and more.... There are other medium to cover what the story team feels are loose ends. It really feels like stuff is being crammed in here - to "wrap things up", or to create cameos... I've seen a couple people say it's sort of an injustice and shows a lack of faith in the characters they created in Rebels if they need to put all these other things in there. Totally agree. I also feel like a lot of things said in the OT are just ignored after certain events and dialogue in the show, and when the creators are called out on contradictions, we are told about "interpretations", and given vague work-around explanations.

    On some level I understand it's hard and ultimately there are people "high up" who don't have the same passion so much for continuity and they make the decisions with what is being produced - this could be why there's a disconnect, even though they are trying to keep that connection between what are going to be hundreds of Star Wars "things". (We all know wth Star Wars it's very important to us that there is continuity and things make sense - more than a lot of other fictional universes I feel..). It's almost like one Star Wars thing will come out that hurts continuity a little bit, and somewhere else writers are going, "oh man now we should fix this," even though it's not their job and putting an explanation in whatever they are creating seems out of place.... Are they thinking, for this show anyway, "well we have the only Live action Star Wars media going at the moment other than the movies, and this might be the last chance to include things that we think are necessary......"....!!?!?!
    I just don't know..

    Ok I'm starting to ramble so I'll be done now.
     
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  8. Qui-Gon Keith

    Qui-Gon Keith Jedi Master star 2

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    Wouldn't it be funny if the Kenobi v. Maul duel will end exactly like how it ended in the non-canon "Old Wounds" story, with Uncle Owen shooting Maul in the head & then go on another rant about how Obi-Wan brings nothing but death & destruction to the Skywalkers? Which automatically will also make that story canon.
     
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  9. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I love the idea of Owen Lars killing Maul- preferably with a shotgun.

    While seeing Obi-Wan is nice this entire Maul's resurrection storyline frok TCW to Rebels is still not good and I hope we finally get rid of this character that already should've been dead. Maul is cool bad guy but since George decided to kill him off he missed the chance to use this cool bad guy in a meaningful way.

    Despite the awful idea of bringing Maul back alive over 10 years after his apparent death TCW used Maul surprisingly well making him to play 3rd side in the clone war and having his own plans that rivaled even Sidious- but in Rebels Maul has not done much and cannot do much. So i really hope he now finally dies or this is getting ridiculously repetitive. Like if Maul now loses his arms- it would be awesome nod to Monty Python though- but in inverted order...
     
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  10. Zejo the Jedi

    Zejo the Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    It wouldn't make that story canon. Thrawn is canon now, but that doesn't mean his books are too.
     
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  11. DAH

    DAH Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I dont think it will be Uncle Owen who kills Maul, Ive Just got a feeling that Obi-Wan is going to be reunited with his old pal Hondo....I even suspect the weequay pirate will kill Maul and save Obi's life because Old Ben will defeat Maul and then spare his life out of pity, yet when he turns his back on the ex-Sith...Maul will try to strike him from behind and Hondo will appear from the shadow's and kill him ...maybe Hondo will go to tationne with Ezra after learning Obi-wan's alive and in peril, which isnt a far stretch as Ezra and Hondo are friends..plus the writers have obviously teased such a reunion as Hondo has mentioned Obi in rebel's....."“One of my best friends was a Jedi. I'm pretty sure we were friends.” and dont forget Maul tried to otherthrow Hondo on the planet florrum with Savage in The Clone War's and Obi saved the day...so would bring it all full circle...only this time it will be Hondo saving Obi...
     
  12. Meeko Ghintee

    Meeko Ghintee Jedi Master star 3

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    I don't think Owen killing Maul would be denigrating to Maul's character. Did Sauron getting killed by a hobbit, his gardener, and a demented frog make him any less menacing? I think Owen killing Maul would add several elements to the story:

    a) Make Owen's insistence on Luke staying more nuanced, would also show how much he cares and make his death more tragic. If Owen saves Ben, would give Owen first hand evidence of Ben's inability to protect Luke from the Dark Side through sheer force and the danger the Jedi path could be for Luke.

    b) Emphasize that the fate of the galaxy is not entirely controlled by force wielding ubermensch.

    c) Maul tends to lose when he underestimates the underdog (blinded Kanan, hanging Obi Wan), so its not entirely out of character for him.
     
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  13. Vespasian

    Vespasian Jedi Master star 2

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    I agree, shooting Maul with a shotgun, especially by Luke's father figure and Vader's half brother, would be a fitting end to this character. I like Maul a lot, TCW made him a very good villain, but it's time to die.
     
  14. littlewaves

    littlewaves Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    step brother not half brother if we're being picky. Half would be blood relation.
     
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  15. Rickleo123

    Rickleo123 Jedi Knight star 3

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    One thing we know for certain: If Maul confirms Kenobi's presence on Tattone. HE CANNOT LEAVE ALIVE. How on earth would Kenobi let a former Sith leave knowing the knowledge of his location is known. There is no way Kenobi can rationalize letting him leave Tattoine with this knowledge, I don't care how or if Maul promises to never tell anyone it would make Kenobi look dumber than a bag of rocks.
     
  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I just don't see Maul being killed by Owen this close to ANH.
     
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  17. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 6

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    I'll throw down Hondo as a wildcard. That would be amazing and unexpected.
     
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  18. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Force Ghost star 5

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    At this point, if he dies I think Ezra will be at least in-part responsible.
     
  19. Michael Mercy

    Michael Mercy Jedi Padawan

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    You're not the only one! I'm actually preferring animated Star Wars over live action lately. The Clone Wars was much better than the prequels, and I thought Rebels blew Force Awakens away in terms of having the genuine OT Star Wars feel. I would have liked to see Ewan again as Kenobi, but this is a step up for me! Maybe Ewan will get his shot in 10 years when he's got more grey.
     
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  20. DAH

    DAH Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah I would like to see Ewan as Kenobi again ALSO, He was definItley one of the best things about the prequel trilogy..... ^:)^ [​IMG]
     
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  21. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Kenobi with lightsaber at a nighttime camp fire.

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  22. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Maul needs Kenobi because the holocrons told him Kenobi has the means to destroy the Sith. That means however is Luke an Kenobi ain't giving him up. Can you imagine Luke trained by Maul??
     
  23. DAH

    DAH Jedi Youngling star 1

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    [​IMG]

    The Mortis arc watched that today....amazing....
     
  24. Meeko Ghintee

    Meeko Ghintee Jedi Master star 3

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    If when Obi-Wan faces Maul we don't get a pointless spin in the middle of the duel, I will be severely disappointed
    [​IMG]
     
  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Watch them not even fight.
     
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