OFFICAL Wand Duel films released!!!

On the second clip I saw Wendys and Sprint, are they your sponsors?

 

The wizard's duel from Willow is pretty awesome.

Just, y'know, a note.

 

It had punching too...

 

I'm patiently awaiting the "judges" results before helping the confused on my entry, as who gets first determines if I bother making a second attempt at this... (Don't be naive, I said in the other thread, as I'm saying again, I don't expect anything but last best.)

p.s. I used no tutorials when I put masterful effects on Wands. (Maybe tutorials are wise things?)

 

To be honest, I'm fairly dissapointed.
Anyways, my favourite is Dr-Carnivora's entry. Hope to see it with effects some time.

 

And that I totally agree with you on that, i like to have that tutorial as a base in order to get the basics of it but then be able to grow off of it.

I think that the reason everyone assumes that Prior was used in OoTP is because in GOF (movie) the golden web and such wasn't used to the extent as in the book, and that effect is so paticularly described in the books for Prior, and no where else is a similar described in all of the books (powerful spells or not). I still stand that effect should be for Prior only.

Plus isn't there an effect described in the books when two spells collide, don't they deflect or explode or something like that, I can't remember at the moment.

 

I agree! And yes there is explanation in the book that spells collide and explode, not connect. Also, in GoF after the Quidditch World Cup when Harry Hermione and Ron were about to be hit with a bunch of stupifies from the ministry their spells exploded, they didnt connect in the least. Why? Because the spell shot out like a bullet from a gun instead of a laser from Star Trek.

 

True. Although I'm sure there are some spells that would have a connecting stream, maybe something like what Ollivander did to the wand in "The Weighing of The wands" with the water spurt. Althoug now that I think about it, almost anything that would have a stream is invisible (Accio, Wingardium Leviosa, Crucio etc.)

So yes, most spells are like a bullet. I'll have to remember that.

 

Hmmm. I actually think that Priori Incantatem is an effect that I WILL do in beyond many times because this contest is after all an expansion on JKR's work, depending upon your directorial choices. For Beyond, I am using Priori Incantatem to show the equivalent of power of two wizards dueling. Not some insight garbage about wands sharing feathers. But rather more power full stuff. Like, for instance, harry doesnt even need a wand to do magic, I dont think Priori Incantatem should be frowned upon unless it's a bad effect.

Hey, I wont do Priori Incantatem, instead, I will make up a VERY similar effect that is cause by the characters strength, but does it matter, when you see it, you will think it's Priori Incantatem.

 

Well that makes absolutely no sense, and it's not garbage, it's what JK Rowling wrote. (Prepare for another Harry Potter purist speech ) Personally I am trying to make everything in my film as close to what Jk established with the actual books, I'm pretty much disregarding what the movies did, because personally I think they ruined alot of she wrote. But hey if you want to use it go ahead, just don't expect alot of love from me.

 

^^^ LOL, It is a hard thing this competition is, the books are way different from the movies. So what to do. For me, Beyond, it's about capturing the essence of a harry potter "BASED" Wand duaL, NOT a harry potter wand dual. Those were the guidelines yeah? So to limit yourself to what she wrote spell wise, just doesn't fly with me. You sell yourself short. And trust me, I am getting alot of heat from people in england for changing some things, but isn't that what a film maker is supposed to do, change something they feel best fits there project, kinda like Bay and Transformers and even many of the harry potter characters like Seamus is totally different then the books. I say keep it in context. Not copy the work, but rather expand upon it, after all, for me at least, that's what a fan film is all about.

 

Hmm, now to me that makes absolutly no sense. I feel that if you are going to make a movie out of something like Harry Potter, all you are doing is visualizing what the author wrote. You didn't create it, and so why do you have any right to change it. If people go to a theater to see a Harry Potter movie they expect to see Harry Potter. Not what the director wanted Harry potter to be. The author wrote it, so technically they know best. SO why should someone else go mucking around with an already good product. Now I understand that certain things need to be changed when going from book to film, but that doesn't mean that the very essence of the books and characters need to be disgarded or changed simply for the sake that the director wants to. And you would think that if a director wan ts to create Harry potter on film, he would respect what JK wrote enough to know that there is a reason she wrote a character that way or something happens the way it does (That's why I really don't like the way the movies were addressed, cutting Dobby out of GoF completely that was just ridiculous, SPEW, all these things develop a character and influence things down the road. Without SPEW that just cuts an entire facet of Hermiones character out.) Thats just my opinion.

 

Well actually there were specifications on how well you maintain the HP universe, though these weren't mandatory and pretty much comes down to the discretion of the individual judge. It is a Harry Potter competition, ultimately, though the current judges wouldn't penalise you for any creative license in that area.

EDIT: Especially in regard to spells, there's no reason to expect people to only use ones we've seen before.

 

The judges quite specifically said that creating your own spells, or expanding was absolutely fine

 

Limiting? I've yet to see anyone even explore what Rowling wrote in the first place. So far people seem to be limiting themselves by following just what they saw in the movies and ignoring the countless links to spell encyclopedias others have posted for the past three or four months.

 

Thank you! Rightly said! I would have loved to see an Aguamenti in there or a Densaugeo or a Levicorpus. I also would love to see a more "kiddy" duel that would be in the context of a duel between children who are doing minor and humorous hexes on each other! Now that would be fun and interesting.

 

I totally think that inventing your own spells is fine (i'm doing several myself), but they need to follow the physics/logics that JK has put down (so you can't have a spell to bring someone back from the dead, or just because someione dies they automatically become a ghost). Personally I would love to be able to do an Aguamenti or Levicorpus but I don't have the resources or skill level to do that type of thing. I'm going to try my hand at creating some demetors for my film, but now I've gone and said to much.

 

I'd like to see Leviorpus done right, as the WB films have already screwed that up. The DA never learned it, it's non-verbal, and Harry specifically discovers the spell as an invention of the Half-Blood Prince in the next one, and only then recalls seeing his father perform it on Snape in OotP. Aside from said flashback, the spell never does in OotP what it does in the books, which is suspend the victim from their ankles until the caster performs (non-verbally again) the counter spell, which is Liberacorpus. Don't mess with me man, I'll bat-bogey hex anyone up and down these boards





EDIT: Oh yeah, inventing your own spells is cool too. There is enough information in the books to do so. See here for more information.

 

Yah, I'm not the only Harry Potter purist here.

I think it would be really cool if someone actually did the Bat Bogey hex in thier film.LOL.

 

The spells are really just a combination of Latin words. You can certainly make spells up if you have a good knowledge of Latin or have a Latin dictionary on hand.

I roleplay at place called snitchseeker.com and we made up spells all the time. (That's a great place to go btw). And again, hp-lexicon.org should not be over-looked at all!

Also can you believe Luna did that much damage with Levicorpus in OotP ... sending that Death Eater all the way to the ceiling! Jeez! And yes, Levicorpus was only done right in OoTP during the flashback when young Snape is dangling from his ankle but even then it wasn't done right because James verbally spoke Leviorpus.

 

Well really, does it really matter if it's spoken aloud, or am I forgetting something. Because the only reason really that a spell is ever not spoken is if it's needed for sneaking up on someone or something like that, or you are a experienced wizard or witch. Saying it aloud just means that you don't have to skill yet to do it non-verbally. (Besides they don't officially learn do do anything non-verbally until year 6.

 

Some are just Latinized English words, and a few are just plain made up. And they don't use Latin pronunciation.

 

And year 6 is when Harry learns Levicorpus. Keep in mind Harry is pretty bad at non-verbal spells. When he came across Levicorpus in his potions book, it was specifically noted to be non-verbal, and even Harry could perform it with no problem. I'm sure it wouldn't matter if one said it aloud, but it sure sounds like an easy non-verbal spell to cast, so why bother saying the incantation?

 

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Aha I knew I was forgetting something. Thank you for reminding me.

The best answer I can think of as to why the spell was cast aloud in the movie is that the directors constatly underestimate thier audience and think that we wouldn't understand what was going on if they used it non-verbally. But none of that really matters because it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

 

Right you are.

"In HBP, Snape asks the DADA class what the advantage is of non-verbal spells; Hermione answers "Your adversary has no warning about what kind of magic you're about to perform which gives you a split-second advantage." Which Snape acknowledges is the right answer, then goes on to say that not everyone can do non-verbal magic, that it takes concentration and mind power. Snape seems to be saying that any spell can be non-verbal if the person is skilled enough....so we can assume "levicorpus" would work as a verbal spell also."