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Right. You people have to take things less seriously. Considering even in joke form it's not a threat against the President. If it's to the point where THAT'S not allowed, there is an infringement on free speech. So, unless what YOU'RE saying is a joke -- which it could be -- my advice would be to show a little maturity. Few presidents were killed by people going around joking about how they weren't going to kill the president.

 

ever heard of the Carnivore program Gonk?

Also, it's a federal mandate that the Secret Service, among other agencies investigate every threat to the President. Yes, I know what you're saying, but in today's world, trust me, the Secret Service has no sense of humor. They have kept my Dept. busy during the election. The big talk right now is the threat down in Columbia, and the secret service isn't commenting on it so there was more credibility to the threat than people relize.

Hell we can't even throw darts at Bushes picture any longer without "Arnold" getting upset.

 

Yeah, but it just gets rediculous. Technically Chris Rock has already threatened the life of the President with his joke "If a black man were vice President, I would kill the president"

Well, a Black Man's now Secretary of State. Gee, that's only one step removed from Vice President. Looks like we have to go investigating Chris Rock as well...

 

I know exactly what you mean Gonk, trust me

 

Except that Carnivore isn't an all-encompassing Pac-Man that gobbles up every bit of information in existence.

A Carnivore trap is set on a specific ISP to filter a particular suspect's activity, after whoever is setting the trap develops a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. A single request is good for 30 days of information, but is can be extended for cause.

Although I guess the comment would be in poor taste, let's not get carried away here.

 

True, but that's just one program that 'can' be talked about.

 

Carnivore? Psh. For a comment on a message board, they'd just have to be resourceful in using Google.

 

From today's Austin American Statesman:
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Still ill about Bush win, eh? Start writing

John Kelso

Monday, November 29, 2004

Now here's a deal for somebody who wants to try out the chicken-fried seal blubber in Newfoundland and doesn't necessarily want to come back to the United States any time soon.

The University of Texas chapter of the Young Conservatives of Texas is offering a free one-way air ticket to Canada to the winner of an essay contest.

He or she who explains best in 1,000 words "Why I Plan to Leave America" wins the ticket. You can submit your entries at CanadaContest@austin.rr.com. But there are a couple of catches: First, you have to agree to stay in Canada for at least a year or return the money. Second, the club won't send you to just any old hot spot in Canada.

"It won't be necessarily where they want to go, but where we think they need to go," said Kevin Potter, a University of Texas marketing major and the club's director of communications. "I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to go to Montreal or Quebec, but I don't imagine they'll want to go to Calgary. There are still people dipping snuff and riding horses in Calgary. So they might feel like they're still in Texas."

Potter says the club hopes to hold down the cost of the ticket to about $200-$300. Conservatives: what a bunch of cheapskates.

The name of the essay contest is "The Brian Boyko 'Canada, eh?' Contest," named after Daily Texan columnist Brian Boyko, a UT journalism graduate student. After the presidential election, Boyko wrote a column saying he planned to leave the United States and asked conservatives to send him checks to "expedite" his "egress." He even listed an address to send the checks to.

In the column, Boyko said that "America is now officially a nation of jerks."

I asked Boyko what he thought about this contest being named in his honor. "Did they at least spell my name right?" he asked. He points out that his plea for money to send him out of the country was unsuccessful.

"No one's actually sent me money," he said. "There was one nice person who wanted to send me enough money for doughnuts." He should've asked Tom DeLay for some corporate bucks; he'd be in Saskatchewan by now.

Boyko says that if it is up to him, there is "a 100 percent" chance that he will leave the country at some point. "It's just a matter of when I save up the money." Right now he's leaning toward New Zealand instead of Canada because he says it's easier to get into New Zealand. I hope he likes sheep.

The move should be educational for Boyko because he has never been to another country. "Never even been to Mexico," he said. "I'm from New Jersey."

Boyko is still honked off about the coverage he got on a BBC Web site in an article about Americans who are thinking of moving to Canada. He didn't like the picture of him that the BBC used.

"I'm not a nice-looking guy," he said. "I am a little bit of a slob, and I am a little bit fat, but I am not as big a fat slob as they made me look." He says the picture exaggerated his double chin and made it look like "it could go on to my knees."

Hey, if you move to Canada, you'll need a fat face to keep your neck warm.

John Kelso's column appears on Sundays, Tuesdays and Fridays. Contact him at 445-3606 or jkelso@statesman.com.

 

And we are now hearing more BS about how this is another stolen election. From the same suspects as in 2000, I might add.

I'm beginning to wonder if the left in this country somehow views any election win by the Republicans as illegitimate. We're seeing an effort to force a recount in Washington - despite the fact that the first recount shows the Republican won that race (by 42 votes, but he still won).

Now, Ohio is being turned into "Florida II".

 

I'm beginning to wonder if the left in this country somehow views any election win by the Republicans as illegitimate.

I'm on the left and I perfectly accept that Curious George was re-elected as our führer. Okay, that was a cheap shot. But really...if that's what the citizens of this country wanted then that's what you get. Garbage in, garbage out as I always kind of say. But I won't pretend that he speaks for me. I didn't vote for him, therefore he's technically not my president. If only the world worked this way, it'd be great. We could have the great left/right face off and see which side can ruin a super power fastest.

I never liked Kerry too much until the debates. He honestly looked more presidential than our current whacko. But alas, we want ordinary people doing big things. Kind of like in special ed. You know they can't do something, so you put them in a leadership position and see what they can do; even if they do it badly. That's sort of like what happened in this election.

And I don't speak for the left or right or whatever it is in any other nation. I'm just a liberal with an opinion. Plus I hate both parties and am registered as an Indi. So JS, quit you left bashing tirades, please? We're not all radicals.

 

I'm on the left and I perfectly accept that Curious George was re-elected as our führer. Okay, that was a cheap shot. But really...if that's what the citizens of this country wanted then that's what you get. Garbage in, garbage out as I always kind of say. But I won't pretend that he speaks for me. I didn't vote for him, therefore he's technically not my president.

Are you a citizen of the USA? If so, he's your president whether you like it or not. If you don't want him as your president, move to another country.

BTW, this paragraph makes you sound like a radical. Just FYI.

 

Are you a citizen of the USA? If so, he's your president whether you like it or not. If you don't want him as your president, move to another country.

That whole 'like it or leave it' mentality is soo...80's. And I plan to eventually. Like I said, I didn't vote for Curious George or Oswald Cobblepot (sp?) hence they're not my leader. And in a perfect world these two would only represent part of the nation.

And no, he's not my president. On a national level he represents the USA. He does no represent me because I didn't choose him. If he represented me then he'd share my views. I don't think you really get what I'm doing or saying here, soo...don't try to interpret it as anything more than an opinion and not reality.

BTW, this paragraph makes you sound like a radical. Just FYI.

FYI as well, I see radicals as willing to hurl bombs for their causes. I'm quite non-violent.

 

Whatever bro, whatever. BTW, when are you leaving the USA? You've been saying that for months now.

 

Darth Mischievous: ...the plethora of irresponsible youth without any coherent and viable value systems of any substantive worth.

I think he's talking about me.

[runs around screaming wildly]

 

.the plethora of irresponsible youth without any coherent and viable value systems of any substantive worth.

Does that refer to value systems which conflict with or are different from your own?

 

Whatever bro, whatever. BTW, when are you leaving the USA? You've been saying that for months now.

I have? I've been gone for 6 months. Once I'm secure with my finances I shall.

 

So, after the final Lousianna Run-Off election this is up, are we then going to switch this focus over to the 2006 Elections, which I already have predicted will be another bad day for you Liberals here?

 

You always pick each election as a bad day for Democrats. So where's the surprise?

 

You always pick each election as a bad day for Democrats. So where's the surprise.

2 for 2 so far.....and what's more impressive is I make these predictions pretty far away from the elections, often when things are not looking so good.

Remember the outrage when Pat Robertson claimed that The Lord told him that George W BUsh would win the 2004 Election?

I was not outraged at all, because The Lord told me the exact same thing and I posted it here, back in late 2002.

 

Democrats just suck at what they're doing. It's not their message that's being rejected it's how they're packaging it. And there are no liberals in the democratic party. No true liberals at any rate.

 

Democrats just suck at what they're doing.

You mean speaking for the American people? Yup, they sure do...

 

No, not that. How they're presenting their ideas. The Onion ran a great Kerry article basically lampooning him saying his "one point plan" was that he wasn't GWB. And that was true. That was his only qualification. He impressed me with the debates but he still came across as a tight arse. I guess the Suuuthern (my accent) people didn't like that. We needed a President like that, just not John Kerry. We also need a leader that inspires people. The only thing that inspired people to vote for GWB was the anti-gay marriage initiatives. Well I guess if your candidate sucks, there's always homophobia to get your 'base' out in droves.

Both candidates sucked. But Kerry seemed to suck less. Yet he failed. He failed because he didn't package his plans properly and he came off as an ass.

 

How they're presenting their ideas.

Nawwww....Like you pointed out, he got his ideas across at the debates. He did a good job.

But America does not want government health care. America does not want gay marriage. America does not want to be buddy/buddy with the UN. America does not want to take political advice from Hollywood and MTV.

Kerry spoke well, he just didn't speak for America.

 

But America does not want government health care.

Obviously he didn't get his point across clearly enough.

America does not want gay marriage.

That much is obvious. That's why I see Canada as a better place, less religiosity ruling their lives.


America does not want to be buddy/buddy with the UN.

And that is why America will fail. I see the US becoming more and more isolationist.

America does not want to take political advice from Hollywood and MTV.

Why? Because they're on TV? They'd rather take orders from Faux news? MTV is a bunch of crap. But Hollywood, some of the people there at any rate, are more informed than the general public. That's the real crime. Our entertainers can be more informed than the people that make up the majority of our population.

Kerry spoke well, he just didn't speak for America.

And neither will anyone else except a tobacco chewing, alcoholic hillbilly, either if the south continues on their ways. Sorry if that's offensive to some southerners. But in all seriousness, besides the anti-gay marriage initiatives, red states voted for "one of our own". IMO at least.

 

FID said

That much is obvious. That's why I see Canada as a better place, less religiosity ruling their lives.

Yeah, that is some country they have up there.

And that is why America will fail. I see the US becoming more and more isolationist.

Ah, you know, I have always said how I believe Liberals believe in that above statement, even though most of the times, liberals fight like lions claiming it is not what they believe.

Thanks for actually posting it out in the open like that.

Why? Because they're on TV? They'd rather take orders from Faux news?

Oh, like the open and free society of Canada which won't even allow Fox News into their country? COuld it be they don't want their people being exposed to the truth? Nah.

MTV is a bunch of crap. But Hollywood, some of the people there at any rate, are more informed than the general public. That's the real crime. Our entertainers can be more informed than the people that make up the majority of our population.

You can't be serious about that? You realize most Hollywood types have nothing more then a high school degree, right?

And neither will anyone else except a tobacco chewing, alcoholic hillbilly, either if the south continues on their ways. Sorry if that's offensive to some southerners. But in all seriousness, besides the anti-gay marriage initiatives, red states voted for "one of our own". IMO at least.

I would counter by claiming that the NorthEast is bigoted against Southereners even more. In my experience, I have seen more contempt expressed by New England types against the rest of the nation then vice versa.