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  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >>as far as GB not sure if I would count it because it includes Depa in the opening battle of the republic and we now know she wasn't even there. Really its just a game and a times it changes things that happen in the SW universe<<

    Well, as far as EU sources go, unless the events of a game conflict with other sources, the events (or in some cases, merely the game elements) take place, or, as you put it, "count".

    As for Depa- who knows? Maybe she did stay behind at first, but later left for Geonosis anyways? I haven't played Clone Campaigns yet though, so I don't want to comment on that level. Is it specifically labeled/depicted as the same battle in AOTC? It might happen afterwards (like the opening levels of the Clone Wars game coming out for Gamecube).
     
  2. KITTY_FISTO

    KITTY_FISTO Jedi Youngling star 1

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    OK, upon seeing AOTC for the 3rd time, here are the Jedi that board the Gunship that leaves the arena :
    Mace Windu
    Ki-Adi Mundi
    Plo Koon
    Kit Fisto
    Shaak Ti
    Saesee Tiin
    Eeth Koth
    Luminara Unduli
    Aayla Secura
    (and Adi Gallia's sister/cousin AND Obi Wan, Anakin and Padme...
    The gunship that blows up ONLY contains Clonetroopers - not Jedi, as all the Jedi board the same gunship as Mace Windu.

     
  3. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO CR Emeritus, SW Louisiana star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I didn't think the gunship had any Jedi on it. We just need to find out the survivors of the 2nd battle and the injured jedi in the arena and I will be so happy.

     
  4. KITTY_FISTO

    KITTY_FISTO Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Jedi-Solo, yep, that gunship that blows up had NO jedi on it. The only named Jedi I can remember that we see depart the gunship and start for the 2nd land battle outside the arena are Ki-Adi Mundi, Kit Fisto, Aayla Secura and Mace Windu. I guess the others remain on that gunship and leave. Presumabally....
     
  5. Master_of_Darkness

    Master_of_Darkness Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The JC members just had to go to the land battle... crap... I'm guessing more Jedi died on there than the arena. And, GB:CC is just Clone Wars time, but has one thing in the beginning with Geonosis showing Ki Adi, Plo Koon, Mace, and Depa. It has to do with the escape on the land battle, and with some battleship cores. It does not show any other JC, and I think that it wouldn't out and out "lie" and put a dead jedi in it. There's something with Adi, though, as i'm pretty sure she survived whatever.
     
  6. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO CR Emeritus, SW Louisiana star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes she surivived. She was in space for the Geonosis battle.
     
  7. Adi_Gallia_9

    Adi_Gallia_9 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    And as long as Adi, survives, I'm okay. :D No, she is my favorite, but I'd be upset if Luminara, Saesee, Plo, etc died and I am upset that Barriss in most likely gone. :( So, you're right, Jedi-Solo. If the gunship had only clones on it, we just need to find out who survived the second land battle.

    Considering the official site updated somewhat recently with all the senators of AotC, I'd bet it won't be too long before they do the Jedi of AotC. Then we'll know.
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    her's my breakdown...

    Theres a similar topic over at PSA but I think this topic will be better suited to this forum as the list will no doubt start to get filled in by EU stories.

    So, here's what we have so far for the 200 Jedi particpants in the Geonosis battle going in...

    -Starfighter Support:

    Adi Gallia
    The Dark Woman (I haven't played JSF yet, but I recall someone saying she was one of the wingmates)

    -Arena:

    Aayla Secura
    Alta Ranga
    Anakin Skywalker
    Barriss Offee
    Bultar Swan
    Coleman Trebor
    Ki-Adi-Mundi
    Kit Fisto
    Luminara Unduli
    Mace Windu
    Nikto Jedi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Plo Koon
    Quinlan Vos
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarr Labooda
    Shaak Ti
    Stass Allie
    Unknown #1
    Unknown #2
    Unknown #3
    Unknown "Nubian Guy"
    Yoda

    -Core Ship Mission
    Aayla Secura
    Ki-Adi Mundi
    Plo Koon
    +8 to 10 other Jedi

    -Other

    Depa Bilaba (stayed at Jedi Temple but eventually arrived on Geonosis as shown in Clone Campaigns)


    Next we get to the survivors and confirmed dead...

    -Starfighter Support: Confirmed Survivors

    Adi Gallia
    The Dark Woman

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed Survivors

    Aayla Secura
    Ki-Adi Mundi
    Plo Koon

    -Arena: Confirmed Survivors [the final circle to gunship escape]

    Aayla Secura (Gunship #4)
    Anakin Skywalker (Gunship #2)
    Bultar Swan (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Eeth Koth (Gunship #3)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (Gunship #1)
    Kit Fisto (Gunship #1)
    Luminara Unduli (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Mace Windu (Gunship #1)
    Nikto Jedi (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Obi-Wan Kenobi (Gunship #2)
    Plo Koon (Gunship #1)
    Saesee Tiin (Gunship #3)
    Shaak Ti (Gunship #3)
    Stass Allie (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Unknown #1 (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Unknown "Nubian Guy" (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Yoda (Gunship #1)

    -Arena: Presumed Survival through other means

    Quinlan Vos (although Infinities, his pre-ANH appearance in Tales suggests the possibility he survived, plus it doesn't seem likely they would kill him off yet)

    -Arena: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    Barriss Offee
    Coleman Trebor (shot by Jango)
    Unknown #2 (dies in final circle just prior to cease fire)
    Unknown #3 (killed by Acklay)

    -Ground War to Geonosian Departure: Participants

    Aayla Secura
    Anakin Skywalker
    Depa Bilaba
    Kit Fisto
    Mace Windu
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Yoda

    -Aftermath: Confirmed Survival

    Anakin Skywalker
    Mace Windu
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    The Dark Woman (infinities-Extinction)
    Yoda

    I believe that is a start... ::)

    That leaves us with at least 36 of the 200 identified or at least accounted for.

    Hopefully this week's HNN update will give us a definitive list.
     
  9. sleazo

    sleazo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    who is the really dark skinned guy who kind of looks like the council member of darth maul's race(im drawing a blnk right now)?

    And how can we officially find outr
     
  10. Adi_Gallia_9

    Adi_Gallia_9 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Great list, 2nd Quest! :)

    And sleazo, that's Eeth Koth. He is the Zabrak from TPM, but played by a different actor.
     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Updated with contributions from the lit forum...


    So, here's what we have so far for the 200 Jedi particpants in the Geonosis battle going in...

    -Starfighter Support:

    Adi Gallia
    A'Sharad Hett
    Bant Eerin
    Ranik Solusar
    Siri
    The Dark Woman

    -Arena:

    Aayla Secura
    Alta Ranga
    Anakin Skywalker
    Barriss Offee
    Bultar Swan
    Coleman Trebor
    Ki-Adi-Mundi
    Kit Fisto
    Luminara Unduli
    Mace Windu
    Nikto Jedi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Plo Koon
    Quinlan Vos
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarr Labooda
    Shaak Ti
    Stass Allie
    Unknown #1
    Unknown #2
    Unknown #3
    Unknown "Nubian Guy"
    Yoda

    -Core Ship Mission
    Aayla Secura (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Depa Bilaba
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Ki-Adi Mundi (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Plo Koon (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Stam Reath
    +4 other Jedi

    -Other Possible Jedi Present (based on HNN articles), but not Confirmed:

    Belsed-Qan Idan (previously on a mission with Kit Fisto)
    Chellemi Chuovvick (previously on a mission with Bultar Swan)
    Empatojayos Brand (previously on a mission with Bultar Swan)
    Joclad Danva (possibly on Coruscant at the time-possibly tapped by Mace)
    Quarmall (previously on a mission with Stass Allie)
    Qu Rhan (on Coruscant at the time-possibly tapped by Mace)
    Reeft (on Coruscant at the time- possibly tapped by Mace)
    Sar Labooda (previously mentioned alonside Depa)
    Tassida Judrelle (previously on a mission with Stass Allie)

    Next we get to the survivors and confirmed dead...

    -Starfighter Support: Confirmed Survivors

    Adi Gallia
    A'Sharad Hett
    Bant Eerin
    Ranik Solusar
    Siri
    The Dark Woman

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed Survivors

    Aayla Secura
    Ki-Adi Mundi
    Plo Koon

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    Depa Bilaba
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Stam Reath
    +4 other Jedi

    -Arena: Confirmed Survivors [the final circle to gunship escape]

    Aayla Secura (Gunship #4)
    Anakin Skywalker (Gunship #2)
    Bultar Swan (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Eeth Koth (Gunship #3)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (Gunship #1)
    Kit Fisto (Gunship #1)
    Luminara Unduli (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Mace Windu (Gunship #1)
    Nikto Jedi (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Obi-Wan Kenobi (Gunship #2)
    Plo Koon (Gunship #1)
    Saesee Tiin (Gunship #3)
    Shaak Ti (Gunship #3)
    Stass Allie (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Unknown #1 (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Unknown "Nubian Guy" (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Yoda (Gunship #1)

    -Arena: Presumed Survival through other means

    Quinlan Vos (although Infinities, his pre-ANH appearance in Tales suggests the possibility he survived, plus it doesn't seem likely they would kill him off yet)

    -Arena: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    Barriss Offee (not in final circle, presumed dead)
    Coleman Trebor (shot by Jango)
    Unknown #2 (dies in final circle just prior to cease fire)
    Unknown #3 (killed by Acklay)

    -Ground War to Geonosian Departure: Participants

    Aayla Secura
    Anakin Skywalker
    Kit Fisto
    Mace Windu
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Yoda

    -Aftermath: Confirmed Survival (assuming no Jedi Starfighter casualties)

    Adi Gallia
    Anakin Skywalker
    A'Sharad Hett
    Bant Eerin
    Empatojayos Brand (if present)
    Mace Windu
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Ranik Solusar
    Siri
    The Dark Woman
    Yoda


    That leaves us with at least 36 of the 200 identified or at least accounted for, with an additional 9 possible Jedi who participated. With 11 of the supposed 20 that survived the battle (although that 20 figure could merely be the Jedi who participated in the Arena/Ground battle, which would exclude the Jedi Starfighter pilots- which brings us down to 5 probable survivors assuming Brand was present).
     
  12. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    adi

    back when i mentioned siri, u said she left the order. i know on tfn that she is a wingmate. she pretended to leave order for a mission, but never left for real. check jedi quest comics, or the jedi quest path to truth. also jude watson, the creator of siri said that we will see siri in new jedi quest books, so if she survived game, she is a survivor.so it seems that gunship has no jedi. thanks to all of you i know what to look for when i see it on saturday for the first time.also is bant erin, kit's former or still padawan?
     
  13. Newbalicious

    Newbalicious Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Master of Darkness, why do you say that Shaak Ti does, is that from the clone campaigns? She does board a Gunship that is for certain, and are most people thinking (hoping) that the Gunship that we see blow up doesn't have jedi on it?

    Anyone else think Shaak Ti is cool? I think its mostly because of the colorful markings on the face thats about it. Plus, if you notice during the scene in the jedi archives she can be seen in the background studying on one of the terminals.

    Also, I was wondering what the official word on jedi that survive the purge. I mean its a big galaxy, and I'm sure a least a few more jedi escape the empire besides just Yoda and Obi-Wan right? Wasn't there a comic with Ki-Adi in it that was prior to the rebellion, OT timeframe?
     
  14. Master_of_Darkness

    Master_of_Darkness Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm pretty sure she dies. I'm not a big fan of her character, is all I know is she a Togrunta Jedi Master on the JC, but i'm pretty sure she dies in the ground battle part, she could of survived the whole thing though, doubt it though. In the ground battle, I think you can add for certain Ki Adi to the list of survivors.
     
  15. Newbalicious

    Newbalicious Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So you're saying that after she escapes the arena that she dies? Hmm, well guess thats harder to reserach with the "official" materials available. So I take it you are getting this from the galactic battlegrounds expansion?
     
  16. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    The novel says "Just over 20" were left
     
  17. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    according to lucas all the jedi die except obi and yoda. although in eu there were alot of those jedi in hiding. but that is what lucas said i believe it was here in ep3 news:

    "All the Jedi die in Episode III during the Clone Wars. I told George (Lucas) I didn't mind dying, I just didn't want to go out like some punk.

    "George said that was fine and he'd see what he could do about a fitting death scene for Mace," says Jackson,
     
  18. Master_of_Darkness

    Master_of_Darkness Jedi Padawan star 4

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    So you're saying that after she escapes the arena that she dies? Hmm, well guess thats harder to reserach with the "official" materials available. So I take it you are getting this from the galactic battlegrounds expansion?


    Sure am. And, things people voiced opinons on before EP2 came out, and some people saying that Shaak Ti was never even seen of or nothing of in the final battle. I truly believe she died.
     
  19. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think Shaak Ti died. I think we would've been shown some jedi dying in the land battle if any did.

    I also don't think Depa Billaba ever went to Geonosis. I believe she along with Oppo, Even, and Adi never went. I wouldn't use any EU sources as official.
     
  20. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Updated...

    Updated...

    So, here's what we have so far for the 200 Jedi particpants in the Geonosis battle going in...

    -Starfighter Support:

    Adi Gallia
    A'Sharad Hett
    Bant Eerin
    Ranik Solusar
    Siri
    The Dark Woman

    -Arena:

    Aayla Secura
    Alta Ranga
    Anakin Skywalker
    Barriss Offee
    Bultar Swan
    Coleman Trebor
    Ki-Adi-Mundi
    Kit Fisto
    Luminara Unduli
    Mace Windu
    Nikto Jedi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Plo Koon
    Quinlan Vos
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarr Labooda
    Shaak Ti
    Stass Allie
    Unknown #1
    Unknown #2
    Unknown #3
    Unknown "Nubian Guy"
    Yoda

    -Core Ship Mission
    Aayla Secura (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Depa Bilaba
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Ki-Adi Mundi (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Plo Koon (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Stam Reath
    +4 other Jedi

    -Other Possible Jedi Present (based on HNN articles), but not Confirmed:

    Belsed-Qan Idan (previously on a mission with Kit Fisto)
    Chellemi Chuovvick (previously on a mission with Bultar Swan)
    Empatojayos Brand (previously on a mission with Bultar Swan)
    Joclad Danva (possibly on Coruscant at the time-possibly tapped by Mace)
    Quarmall (previously on a mission with Stass Allie)
    Qu Rhan (on Coruscant at the time-possibly tapped by Mace)
    Reeft (on Coruscant at the time- possibly tapped by Mace)
    Sar Labooda (previously mentioned alonside Depa)
    Tassida Judrelle (previously on a mission with Stass Allie)

    Next we get to the survivors and confirmed dead...

    -Starfighter Support: Confirmed Survivors

    Adi Gallia
    A'Sharad Hett
    Bant Eerin
    Ranik Solusar
    Siri
    The Dark Woman

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed Survivors

    Aayla Secura (goes on to Arena)
    Depa Bilaba (after that, fate unknown)
    Echuu Shen-Jon (after losing his padawan Stam, will eventually survive Jedi Purge)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (goes on to Arena)
    Plo Koon (goes onto Arena)

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    Stam Reath
    +4 other Jedi

    -Arena: Confirmed Survivors [the final circle to gunship escape]

    Aayla Secura (Gunship #4)
    Anakin Skywalker (Gunship #2)
    Bultar Swan (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Eeth Koth (Gunship #3)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (Gunship #1)
    Kit Fisto (Gunship #1)
    Luminara Unduli (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Mace Windu (Gunship #1)
    Nikto Jedi (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Obi-Wan Kenobi (Gunship #2)
    Plo Koon (Gunship #1)
    Saesee Tiin (Gunship #3)
    Shaak Ti (Gunship #3)
    Stass Allie (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Unknown #1 (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Unknown "Nubian Guy" (Gunship #4, presumably)
    Yoda (Gunship #1)

    -Arena: Presumed Survival through other means

    Quinlan Vos (although Infinities, his pre-ANH appearance in Tales suggests the possibility he survived, plus it doesn't seem likely they would kill him off yet)

    -Arena: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    Barriss Offee (not in final circle, presumed dead)
    Coleman Trebor (shot by Jango)
    Unknown #2 (dies in final circle just prior to cease fire)
    Unknown #3 (killed by Acklay)

    -Ground War to Geonosian Departure: Participants

    Aayla Secura
    Anakin Skywalker
    Kit Fisto
    Mace Windu
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Yoda

    -Fates Unknown

    Depa Bilaba

    -Aftermath: Confirmed Survival (assuming no Jedi Starfighter casualties)

    Adi Gallia
    Anakin Skywalker
    A'Sharad Hett
    Bant Eerin
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Empatojayos Brand (if present)
    Mace Windu
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Qu Rhan (if present)
    Ranik Solusar
    Siri
    The Dark Woman
    Yoda


    That leaves us with at least 36 of the 200 identified or at least accounted for, with an additional 9 possible Jedi who participated. With 13 of the supposed "about 20" that survived the battle (although that 20 figure could merely be the Jedi who participated in the Arena/Ground battle, which would exclude the Jedi Starfighter pilots- which brings us down to 7 probable survivors assuming Brand and Rahn were present).
     
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> Also, I was wondering what the official word on jedi that survive the purge. I mean its a big galaxy, and I'm sure a least a few more jedi escape the empire besides just Yoda and Obi-Wan right?<<

    There's a thread in the lit forum that details this... Jedi Purge Survivors (http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=6154347&replies=118)

    >>Wasn't there a comic with Ki-Adi in it that was prior to the rebellion, OT timeframe?<<

    No, there was, however, a comic called "Prelude to Rebellion" which was set prior to TPM.
     
  22. tooltre

    tooltre Jedi Youngling star 3

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    was nikto jedi even in the final circle? I don't think so...

    There is a klattu (barada type) near kit fisto, and a weequay jedi near sae sae tinn...but I never saw a nikto jedi in the final survivor scene...

    A lot of people mistake the barada type jedi for a nikto but he is not. There are niktos in the arena but none in the final circle.

    Presumably of the weequay and the klattu there are two names between them that could be used... they are sarr labooda and alta ranga (unless there are other jedi named as such)...my guess is the klattu is alta, and weequay is sarr labooda...unless of course the second black dude in the arena is named one of the above (but we know that sarr and alta were both done in cgi)...

    but since the klattu has been seen physically in shots that would mean either he didn't work out cgi or they just used a live actor.
     
  23. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    hmm..we'll have to work on ID'ing them properly then...I had a feeling it was the Nikto who got chomped on by the Acklay, but when someone else claimed the Nikto made it to the circle, I changed it to an "Unknown" designation.
     
  24. Charlie_Martel

    Charlie_Martel Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The only Jedi to survive the Purge, in the movies anyways, is Obi-Wan and Yoda. No other Jedi makes it out, not even Master Windu.
     
  25. Master_of_Darkness

    Master_of_Darkness Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes, in the movies. Games though, they had Stam Reath, Echuu, and a couple of others I think. And the Reath sister survived too when it comes to games.
     
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