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  1. plo_koom

    plo_koom Jedi Knight star 5

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    I was hoping someone would notice on their own *sigh but you can cleary see he's not danva hes on the other side of circle, it cant be him there's evidence i just need to find it somewere it was in a video I cant recall which maybe the clonewar trailer or the aotc dvd advertisment a link would help and a few pics all find "em but it shows both dieing really
     
  2. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    To what are you referencing Plo Koom? Are you saying that Danva isn't dead in some shots?

    If that is what you are saying than you are mistaken.

    I think I just need the post clarified is all. It is a little confusing to me anyway.
     
  3. JediCouncilBoy4

    JediCouncilBoy4 Jedi Master star 4

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    DId Stass Allie make it out of the arena?
    IS WIdescreen better then full screen for the battle? I have the Fullscreen DVD.
     
  4. JediCouncilBoy4

    JediCouncilBoy4 Jedi Master star 4

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    Also, Are there any comfirmed for sure dead council members. Other then Colemen Trebor?

    Think will ever see the deleted seen of The Ki and Plo raid?
     
  5. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Stass Allie did make it out of the arena. Agen Kolar pulls her onto a gunship. I posted the exact time a couple of posts above this one.

    As for council members some sourcebook says that Eeth Koth and Saesee Tiin died but I wouldn't trust a sourcebook.

    I'm hoping the deleted raid scene will appear when all the movies are released on DVD in a box set. Otherwise we will never see it.
     
  6. TaradosGon

    TaradosGon Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    *Sigh*

    "I was hoping someone would notice on their own *sigh but you can cleary see he's not danva hes on the other side of circle, it cant be him there's evidence i just need to find it somewere it was in a video I cant recall which maybe the clonewar trailer or the aotc dvd advertisment"

    Sorry to burst your bubble but it IS Danva (I am not talking about the Jedi that Obi-Wan checks for a pulse on). Not only is he lying where Danva was previously standing, but he is dressed identical and Danva is no where to be seen during those shots. Hmmm logically this would suggest it is Danva. I do not know how to take screens of the film but I can offer you these times.

    1:55:31 (Danva is seen standing when droids are called off)

    1:55:43 (Danva is seen on the ground moments later, no shots have been fired).

    1:56:12 (Danva is still down).

    1:56:17 (Danva is up).

    1:56:58 (Danva is back down as the Jedi make their way to the gunships).



     
  7. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well we now know who Sarr Labooda is in the film. Check out starwars.com for a pic of her in the new ask the jedi council section.
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That's useful, actually- I'll have to check the DVD, but I think she might be one of the "unknowns" I've already accounted for.
     
  9. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    that's Sar .I always wondered what that extra's name was.
     
  10. JediCouncilBoy4

    JediCouncilBoy4 Jedi Master star 4

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    me too, I always saw him? Her?
     
  11. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Unfortunately, that only shows us who made it to the circle, not who managed to survive the arena- we've seen people who were in the circle who did not survive the battle and others who did not make the circle who did survive the battle.
     
  13. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO CR Emeritus, SW Louisiana star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So 2nd when does the next updates come out?
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Hard to say exactly- Republic#51 came out the other week, but no new Geonosis Jedi were shown or mentioned. #52 doesn't look to have anyone new either.

    Jedi: Shaak Ti comes out next, I think, so that might have something.

    After that it's Republic #53, #54 and the novel Shatterpoint (in June I believe).
     
  15. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Since I know we have some Barriss fans in the house, even though she was already a confirmed survival, TOS has updated with info on a forthcoming duology called Medstar that will feature her. So she's without a doubt a survivor.

    http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2003/03/news20030327.html
     
  16. Jedi Master Greg

    Jedi Master Greg Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So, uh, have we ever find the fate of Sarissa Jeng? (balding HI-YAAH! chick)
     
  17. Jedi Master Greg

    Jedi Master Greg Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Double post, curse you double post, CURSE YOU!!!
     
  18. whostheBossk

    whostheBossk Force Ghost star 4

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    The Reek stepped on her....ouch!
     
  19. Jedi Master Greg

    Jedi Master Greg Jedi Youngling star 1

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    NOOO! It cant be true! *weeps bitterly*
     
  20. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Jeng's fate is still unknown.

    Well, we have some new information now, taken from the recently released "Inside the Worlds of Attack of the Clones"- relayed by JKBurtola in this project's sister thread: Battle of Geonosis: Jedi Survivors

    He mentions that it names three new arena Jedi:


    -Galdos Stouff, who is the apprentice to Sora Bulq.
    -Khaat Qiyn, a female Jedi Knight.
    -a Klatoonian Jedi Master, Sta-Den-Eekin.

    The book's "Battle of Geonosis" pages also confirms that there were no Jedi aboard the exploding gunship that Mace and Yoda witness.

    He also says the book also confirms three deaths:

    -Tarados Gon (I'm not sure who he is...)
    -Eeth Koth (he managed to escape the arena, but apparently died in the ground war, supposedly)
    -Sora Bulq (I've requested an exact quote regarding this, since Sora was shown to have survived in Jedi: Mace Windu, however, Mace does say that Sora dissapeared after Geonosis, so this book probably just presumes he died in the battle.)
     
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Another interesting note, is that it apparently claims there were six gunships evacuating Jedi from the arena (twice what we've previously believed), which might solve the "over-packed third gunship" concern, though I don't think six would actually fit in the shots we saw. It's possible that that six includes three gunships flying air cover, leaving three to land to pick up survivors,
     
  22. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Whoops- just checked my list, and Tarados Gon is the "barada" Jedi, already on the list- I just didn't recognize the name at first, my mistake.
     
  23. puttbury2002

    puttbury2002 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ''-Galdos Stouff, who is the apprentice to Sora Bulq.
    -Khaat Qiyn, a female Jedi Knight.
    -a Klatoonian Jedi Master, Sta-Den-Eekin. ''

    are they alive, dead or unknown fate?

    and

    Galdo Stouff, which species?(Weequay?)
    Khaat Qiyn, is she a human?
     
  24. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >>are they alive, dead or unknown fate?<<

    We don't know, though I would presume they'd be among the casualties or wounded (some of the Jedi have to die, afterall [face_batting] ), though until I get a picture of them (assuming ones complements their mentions in this book) I'm not positive, though it's possible they're among the "unknowns" that I've accounted for.

    >>Galdo Stouff, which species? Khaat Qiyn, is she a human?<<

    Again, I'm not sure at this point, but I will let you know as soon as I do ::)

    Khaat is presumably human, though.




    Anyways, I've finally gotten around to doing my DVD analysis (ripping it to an MPEg so that I can use QT player has made things so much easier), and so I'm working on some revisions right now, mainly in the number of Unknown Jedi KIA in the arena (upped to 16), also I am almost certain there was at least 4 gunships that landed in the arena now, so I'm reverting back to that breakdown (ITWO-AOTC says there were six, so I guess at least one did not land and just provided coverfire.) and, in fact, will probably up the gunships that landed count to 5 (see below for reasons).

    Also, I can indeed confirm that I was wrong earlier and that there indeed was a Jedi aboard the downed Gunship, with a green lightsaber (this also verified in ITWO-AOTC) so that was probably Tarados Gon. I'm going to assume that Sora was not aboard- just believed to be aboard. Now, how the hell Eeth Koth got onboard that ship (since he wasn't in the circle) is beyond me.

    Anyways, if Eeth was aboard that gunship, it was a seperate gunship from the one Agen Kolar was aboard (since we can clearly see he's the first aboard the gunship that carries Stass and Plo Koon and presumably Aayla). So, this would confirm they are indeed seperate individuals since they were in seperate places.

    Additionally, this downed gunship would have to be a fifth gunship, since members of all the other ships were seen alive later on.

    I'm also fairly certain the Jedi body on the ground as the gunships land is Joclad, cause there is no one else it could be (it's definately not the guy Obi-wan checks the pulse of).

    I've also noted Shaak Ti during thw ground war, even though we know she survived already, we now have in-film proof that she at least made it to the ground war.

    I'll post the update in a little bit.
     
  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    200+ Jedi go to (or end up on) Geonosis. (Figure taken from AOTC novel)

    The Battle of Geonosis is composed of a series of several battles, the following breaks the known ones down in roughly chronological order:

    -Escort to Geonosis (Jedi Starfighter)
    -Escort to Arena (The Clone Wars)
    -Arena battle (AOTC)
    -Core Ship Raid (AOTC deleted scene)
    -Additional Core Ship Raids (Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns)
    -Orbital starfighter battle (Jedi Starfighter)
    -Main Republic/Confederate battle (AOTC)
    -Republic/Confederate followup skirmishes (Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns, The Clone Wars, Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive)

    -Starfighter Support:

    Adi Gallia (Human)
    A'Sharad Hett (Tusken Raider)
    Bant Eerin (Mon Calamarian)
    Jaizen Suel
    Rana
    Ranik Solusar (Human)
    Saesee Tiin (after Arena)
    Siri Tachi (Human)
    The Dark Woman (Human)

    -Arena:

    Aayla Secura (Twi'lek)
    Agen Kolar (Zabrak)
    Alta Ranga
    Anakin Skywalker (Human)
    Barriss Offee (Mirialan)
    Bultar Swan (Human)
    Coleman Trebor (Vurk)
    Eeth Koth (Zabrak)
    Fi'ek Sirch (Nikto)
    Galdos Stouff (unknown species)
    Khaat Qiyn (Human female, presumably)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (Cerean)
    Kit Fisto (Nautolan)
    Joclad Danva (Human)
    Luminara Unduli (Mirialan)
    Mace Windu (Human)
    Obi-Wan Kenobi (Human)
    Pablo-Jill (Ongree)
    Plo Koon (Kel Dor)
    Quinlan Vos (Kiffar)
    Roth-Del Masona ("Nubian Guy")
    Saesee Tiin (Iktotchi)
    Sarrissa Jeng (the female "hiyah!" Jedi) (Human)
    Sarr Labooda (Human)
    Shaak Ti (Togruta)
    Sora Bulq (Weequay)
    Sta-Den-Eekin (Klatoonian)
    Stass Allie (Human)
    Tarados Gon (Klatooinian/"Barada")
    Tu'ala (Human)
    Unknown Alien Jedi (blue guy)
    Unknown #2
    Unknown #3
    Unknown #4
    Unknown #5
    Unknown #6
    Unknown #7
    Unknown #8
    Unknown #9
    Unknown #10
    Unknown #11
    Unknown #12
    Unknown #13
    Unknown #14
    Unknown #15
    Unknown #16
    Yoda (CGI Puppet)

    -Core Ship Mission
    Aayla Secura (Twi'lek) (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (Cerean) (participates in Arena Battle also)
    Plo Koon (Kel Dor) (participates in Arena Battle also)
    +20 other Jedi

    -GBG Core Ship Mission
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Stam Reath
    +4 other Jedi

    -Other Possible Jedi Present (based on HNN articles), but not Confirmed:

    Belsed-Qan Idan (previously on a mission with Kit Fisto)
    Chellemi Chuovvick (previously on a mission with Bultar Swan)
    Empatojayos Brand (Human) (previously on a mission with Bultar Swan)
    Quarmall (previously on a mission with Stass Allie)
    Qu Rhan (on Coruscant at the time-possibly tapped by Mace)
    Reeft (Dresselian) (on Coruscant at the time- possibly tapped by Mace)
    Tassida Judrelle (previously on a mission with Stass Allie)

    Next we get to the survivors and confirmed dead...

    -Starfighter Support: Confirmed Survivors

    Adi Gallia (Human)
    Siri Tachi (Human)

    -Starfighter Support: Presumed Survivors

    A'Sharad Hett (Tusken Raider)
    Bant Eerin
    Jaizen Suel
    Rana
    Ranik Solusar (Human)
    The Dark Woman (Human)

    -Starfighter Support: Casualties

    Saesee Tiin (Iktotchi) (either here or during ground war)

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed Survivors

    Aayla Secura (Twi'lek)(goes on to Arena)
    Ki-Adi Mundi (Cerean) (goes on to Arena)
    Plo Koon (Kel Dor) (goes onto Arena)

    -Core Ship Mission: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    20 other Jedi

    -GBG Core Ship Mission: Confirmed Survivors

    Echuu Shen-Jon

    -GBG Core Ship Mission: Confirmed or Presumed Dead

    Stam Reath
    +4 other Jedi

    -Arena: Confirmed Survivors [the final circle to gunship escape]

    -GUNSHIP #1:

    Ki-Adi Mundi (Cerean)
    Kit Fisto (Nautolan)
    Mace Windu (Human)
    Yoda (CGI Puppet)

    -GUNSHIP #2:

    Anakin Skywalker (Human)
    Obi-Wan Kenobi (Human)
    Padme (Babe)

    -GUNSHIP #3:

    Aayla Secura (Twi'lek)
    Agen Kolar (Zabrak)
    Bultar Swan (Human) (presumably, since she was next to Stass)
    Plo Koon (Kel Dor)
    Stass Allie (Human)

    GUNSHIP #4:

    Roth-Del Masona ("Nubian Guy")
    Luminara Unduli (Mirialan)
    Saesee Tiin (Iktotchi)
    Shaak Ti (Togruta)

    GUNSHIP #5:

    Eeth Koth (Zabrak) (presumably was wounded [thus not in circle] and brought aboard after landing)
    ((Sora Bul
     
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