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Amph Official Hip-Hop Music Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by BarryBonds25, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Here is a list i made of my Nas collection 5 months back, obviously not including official releases. Since then ive pretty much completed my collection, but i cant be bothered to update the list. Also some tracks may be repeated here twice, and i may not have a few (like unreleased Ether) :

    U n r e l e a s e d / B ? S i d e s

    Nas - Black Zombies
    Nas - Blackness
    Nas - Deja Vu
    Nas - Doo Rags
    Nas - ENY - Exclusive feat. Nashawn
    Nas - ENY - Never Gonna Give It Up
    Nas - ENY - The Flyest feat. Bravehearts (better beat)
    Nas - ENY - Thug *****s Holla Back feat. Kool G Rap ? a.k.a. ?Livin Thug?
    Nas - Everyday Thing feat. Nature & Dr. Dre -- a.k.a. ?Insenseless To Speak?
    Nas - Everything Is Real
    Nas - Hustlers & Killers
    Nas - I'm A Villain
    Nas - Jump On It feat. E-Money Bags & Horse -- a.k.a. ?I Want It?
    Nas - Just Another Day in the Projects
    Nas - My Worst Enemy
    Nas - Number One With A Bullet feat. Kool G Rap, White Boy
    Nas - One Mic (Clean)
    Nas - Sinful Living
    Nas - Take It In Blood II (New Lyrics)
    Nas - Tales From The Hood
    Nas - The Game Lives On -- alternative to ?Project Windows?
    Nas - The General (Remix) feat. Fat Joe, Cassidy
    Nas - The General (Salute Me)
    Nas - The Message (Unreleased Version)
    Nas - The Rise & Fall (no hook) ? a.k.a. ?Spit?
    Nas - The Rise And Fall (DJ Absolute) -- a.k.a. ?The Main Event?
    Nas - The Spirit -- = Afterlife + Among Kings
    Nas - When Thugs Die (DJ Clue Great Ones Pt. 2)
    Nas - Where You Gonna Run (a.k.a Dead Or Alive)
    Nas - You don't know Me
    Nas - You the Man (Rare Uncut)
    Nas feat. 50 Cent, Nature, AZ, Foxy Brown - World Famous (J-Love)
    Nas feat. 50 Cent, The Bravehearts - Who I Rep With
    Nas feat. Bravehearts - Never Too Late
    Nas feat. Bravehearts - Pray
    Nas feat. Nature - Cookout
    Nas feat. Nature, 50 Cent - Projects 2 Hot
    Nas feat. Noreaga - Queens Style
    Nas ft. AZ, Biz Markie - Understanding (unreleased)
    Nas Live @ Rochester Excerpt
    Nas, Nature & Noreaga - Triple Threat

    Lost Tracks:
    Ether (Alternate Version) - Nas said in an inteview that his first recording of Ether was waaay out there... like he went too far dissing Jay and he later remade the song... not known if this version still exists.

    Material Things - colaboration with Jully Black
    I Got Game - unreleased Nas from Illmatic era
    The Death of Escobar (DOE) - actual track title, unreleased from Stillmatic, nothing else is known
    Bomb First - Nas/Cassidey colab, didn't make Cassidey's album
    Nasty Ways - unreleased God Son joint w/ Nashawn
    **** Hot - unreleased God Son joint, supposedly ereased
    Crabs in the Barrel - unreleased God Son joint
    You Can't Stop Me - Kanye West produced song that never made it to Stillmatic
    Kids Have All the Fun - Song from 2000-01 era, little else is known
    Salute Me (Pete Rock Remix) - Pete Rock confirmed this songs existence, not known where it's jus a new beat or has new lyrics.
    Tick Tock
    The Curse (Full Length) - only a snippit exists



    C a m e o s

    3LW feat. Nas - No More (trackmasters remix)
    Alicia Keys feat. Nas - A Woman's Worth (Remix).mp3
    All-Star Tribute - What's Going On.mp3
    Allure feat. Nas - Head Over Heels.MP3
    AZ feat. Nas - Gimme Yours.mp3
    AZ feat. Nas - How Ya Livin.MP3
    AZ feat. Nas - Mo Money, Mo Murder (Homicide).mp3
    AZ feat. Nas, Joe - Everything's Everything (Remix)
    Brandy feat. Nas - What About Us (Remix).mp3
    Cha Cha feat. Nas - M.O.M.M.Y..mp3
    CNN feat. Nas - B EZ.mp3
    Cormega, Nas, Akinyele, Kamikaze - On The Real.mp3
    DJ Clue feat. Nas - Queensfinest
    Dr. Dre feat. B-Real, RBX, Nas, KRS-One - East Coast West Coast Killas.MP3
    Fat Joe feat. Big Pun, Nas and Raekwon - John Blaze (Remix).MP3
    Foxy Brown feat. Cormega, Nas & AZ - La Familia.mp3
    Funk Flex & Big Kap feat. Nas & Nashawn - Millenium Thug.mp3
    Harlem World feat Nas & Carl Thomas - You Made Me.mp3
    Jadakiss - Show Discipline Feat. Nas
    Jagged Edge feat. Nas - I Got It.mp3
    Jaheim feat. Nas - Just In Case (Remix).mp3
    Jennifer Lopez feat. Nas - I'm Gonna Be Alright.mp3
    Jermaine Dupri feat. Nas - Turn It Out.mp3
    Jon B feat. Nas - Pleasures You Like (Finer Th
     
  2. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Also a new track:

    Jazib Khan is a WHore Ft. Kelis

    hot sh1t

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  3. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    He made a song about me?! I feel so blessed!
     
  4. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    What makes you think he's talking about you? NaS would never make a song about a cheap tramp like you :)



    [:D]

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  5. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    Ohhh he's talking about that other Jazib! Gotcha.
     
  6. geedup

    geedup Jedi Youngling

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    Barry ill reply to your post in depth later, cos im listening to the new Snoop album, that just leeked:

    http://www.sohh.info/audio/Snoop_Dogg_R&G_Rhythm_and_Gangsta_The_Masterpiece-2004-ult/

    Props to me tongue


    props to you?
    steal my links then want props for it?
    fvcking faggot
     
  7. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    [face_devil] i take it you posted it on the net for a reason? So i shared it.

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  8. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    So...
    Eminem's album leeked. Will have it soon.
    Word is, its lyrically his weakest. Also it has 8 Dre beats, and the rest Eminem. Dre's work is meant to be his weakest in years, and Em's is the usual averageness he delivers. This album is being rated like 3/5...

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  9. BarryBonds25

    BarryBonds25 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Already have Em's album, though since I have a midterm in one of my classes in 8.5 hours, I won't have time to listen to it until tomorrow night. Will definitely give my thoughts then.
     
  10. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    So, there are HIPHOP heads on the boards. Didnt have time to read all the post but Im just pleased to see it up.

    Weapon of choice: ASR10.
     
  11. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Yeah i got the Em album about 10 mins after my post. I cant be bothered to listen to it now, because ive been up for 2 days straight now, need some sleep.
    BTW Barry, did you get the bonus tracks?

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  12. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I dont know how an album can veer between powerful music to annoying garbage. Or lyrical excellence, to wack lyrics. At times this album hits 5 out of 5, at other times 1 out of 5. He will never get a classic album if he splits between Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers, it just feels like the album lacks direction. Unless he drops a double disc, one with each personality, he will never achieve what he wants.

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  13. SONOFJANGO

    SONOFJANGO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Who was it a few pages back that asked if anyone likes any rappers from NY?

    If you haven't noticed, most rappers that are being discussed in this thread are from NY.

    As far as I know there are three main areas that hip hop stems from with a few other secondary areas branching off the main areas.

    In no particular order rap comes mainly from;

    New York
    California
    Georgia



    The secondary areas would be regions like:

    the North; Michigan, Ohio, and other states in the North

    The Midwest

    The South; Tennessee, Alabama



    Now, I read a few pages back when someone (OGOneKenobi69 I think) said he only likes OutKast pre-Stankonia and he only likes B.E.P. pre-Fergie. That doesn't make sense to me. Well, particularly the whole OutKast thing. I can't see how you like some of their albums but not the others. They are all fantastic albums. I find that most people who say they are huge fans of OutKast haven't even listened to Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik or even know of its existence. The albums OutKast have released tell a story and I think, before you pass judgement, that you should listen to all of them sequentially. Then maybe you will see a new appreciation for them and you will have heard the messages they are telling. I seem to be one of the few who actually likes all of their albums and loves anything and everything they produce.

    I'll be honest with you too. I don't really try and listen to any other kind of music than that which is produced in the South. Mainly, because when I do listen to it, it all sounds the same. Maybe I haven't listened to the right stuff. Now, don't think I'm completely ignorant. I do listen to stuff from the West Coast and from the North, just not as much as I listen to Southern rap.

    Before anyone brings up Lil' Jon I'll go ahead and say it myself. He is not a rapper. He admits this. He knows he's not a rapper. He produces funky beats that get everyone crunk as hell. Which is why everyone and their mom wants Lil' Jon to produce songs for them because they know his beats sell.

    Since Chappelle made fun of him his popularity has skyrocketed. I hate to break it to you but in Atlanta we've been listening to him for close to a decade. I remember back in '96 and '97 if you asked someone outside of the South if they liked Lil' Jon they would say Lil' who? Now, because of MTV he's on top of the world. Same thing with OutKast before Rosa Parks or Ms. Jackson. Most people would not really recognize their name and most of those people would be surprised to learn that they have been releasing albums since 1994.

    If you haven't listened to the following groups/persons you need to;

    OutKast
    Goodie Mob
    YoungBloodZ
    Three 6 Mafia
    Project Pat
    Ludacris

    The first two groups are fantastic and their songs really make you think and search within the song for the deeper message. And at the same time their music can get you crunk too.

    YoungBloodZ and Three 6 aren't as good of storytellers or lyricists as Goodie or OutKast but they sure can get you crunk as **** with most of their songs.

    Project Pat and Ludacris are both pretty good lyricists (though not on the same level as OutKast or Goodie) and their beats can get you crunk too. If you want a sample of life growing up in the slums listen to Project Pat's albums in order.

    All in all good **** to listen to.


    As a matter of fact I'll go ahead and just say it. Atlanta is where rap is turning to now.

    OutKast, Ciara, Usher, Ludacris, Lil' Jon, T.I., Killer Mike, Eightball, MJG, YoungBloodZ, Goodie Mob, Yin Yang Twinz, and Bonecrusher just to name a few that people will recognize. All have had one of more singles released in the last year or so that have stayed on the charts for a while.

    And to throw a curveball to all who think Nas is the greatest of all time. Andre 3000 wrote 'One Mic' for Nas.

    To me :

    Nas = Old news (Personally I'm sick of him which is why I don't listen to him)
    Jay Z = Needs to go ahead and retire if he keeps saying he's going to
    Puff Daddy = Just needs to st
     
  14. BarryBonds25

    BarryBonds25 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    And to throw a curveball to all who think Nas is the greatest of all time. Andre 3000 wrote 'One Mic' for Nas.


    PPOR. I've talked to a few friends who are Nas fans and post on other hip hop message boards and they haven't heard anything about One Mic being ghostwritten. Since the album has been out since 2001, I think we would have heard something about it by now.
     
  15. BarryBonds25

    BarryBonds25 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I just finished listening to Em's CD. Man, this is straight wack. After Mosh, all the songs are garbage except a couple are ehhh ok. But, just because it's Eminem, teenagers will be ****-riding and this ish will go multi-platinum. I ain't buying this crap. It's sad when 50 outshines Em on a track lyrically.
     
  16. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    LOL yeah, first few tracks OK, then you get Toy Soldier and Mosh, and you start thinking; this is gonna be good. Then....ehhh. Crazy in Love is so wack, the beat sucks, the lyrics even more. I mean we dont care about his baby momma, this is the 10th song hes done on her...Do you think any other rapper could get away with that? NO. Although the chorus for Crazy in Love is my crack lol.

    LOL @ Anyone saying Andre 3000 wrote One Mic, he doesnt even write like that. Although Jungle (Nas' brother) once claimed he wrote it, but anyone whos ever heard Jungle rap would know hes lying. Also One Mic isnt the most lyrical song Nas has ever written, no way near it. Its just the emotion he uses to rap. But forget this, this is coming from someone who thinks YoungbloodZ are better than Nas or Jay. [face_laugh]

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  17. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Andre3000 always wanted to do a One Mic, apparently he told Big Mike about the CONCEPT - who told JUNGLE about it.

    Jungle then wanted to do something like that but ended up giving THE CONCEPT to Nas (probably because there's no way Jungle could make it work with his....talent).

     
  18. SONOFJANGO

    SONOFJANGO Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I'll have to retract then Bonds because I can't find the article where I read that.

    Comic Book Boy, I never said I thought YoungBloodZ were better than Nas or Gay-Z. I just said I like them more. Excuse me for having preferences that differ from yours. Anyone that claims that they're 'The greatest rapper alive' definitely isn't and anyone who claims themselves as God's son doesn't get any attention from me.

    I couldn't care less about any rapper from NY (especially 68 Cents) or any person from NY for that matter.
     
  19. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Some great artwork:

    http://www.rodrigo-ny.com/PosterNas.asp
    http://www.rodrigo-ny.com/PosterNasII.asp
    http://www.rodrigo-ny.com/PosterNasIII.asp

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  20. BarryBonds25

    BarryBonds25 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    [image=http://www.sonymusic.net/images/selection/100/so92065.gif]

    Disc 1
    1 Intro
    2 A Message To The Feds, Sincerely, We The People (Explicit Album Version)
    3 Nazareth Savage (Explicit Album Version)
    4 American Way (Explicit Album Version)
    5 These Are Our Heroes (Explicit Album Version)
    6 Disciple (Explicit Album Version)
    7 Sekou Story (Explicit Album Version)
    8 Live Now (Explicit Album Version)
    9 Rest Of My Life (Explicit Album Version)
    10 Just A Moment (Explicit Album Version)
    11 Reason (Explicit Album Version)
    12 You Know My Style (Explicit Album Version)
    Disc 2
    1 Suicide Bounce (Explicit Album Version)
    2 Street's Disciple (Explicit Album Version)
    3 U.B.R. (Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim) (Explicit Album Version)
    4 Virgo (Explicit Album Version)
    5 Remember The Times (Intro) (Explicit Album Version)
    6 Remember The Times (Explicit Album Version)
    7 The Makings Of A Perfect Bitch (Explicit Album Version)
    8 Getting Married (Explicit Album Version)
    9 No One Else In The Room (Explicit Album Version)
    10 Bridging The Gap
    11 War (Explicit Album Version)
    12 Me & You (Dedicated To Destiny) (Explicit Album Version)
    13 Thief's Theme (Explicit Album Version)
     
  21. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Whats your source? According to varying sources, its one of these two:

    Disc 1

    1. A Message To The Feds, Sincerely, We Are The People (Intro)
    2. A Message To The Feds, Sincerely, We Are The People
    3. Nazareth Savage
    4. American Way-Feat. Kelis
    5. Coon Picnic (These Are Our Heroes)
    6. Disciple
    7. Sekou Story-Feat. Scarlett
    8. Live Now-Feat. Scarlett
    9. Rest Of My Life
    10. Just A Moment-Feat. Quan
    11. Reason-Feat. Emily
    12. You Know My Style (bonus track)

    Disc 2

    1. Suicide Bounce-Feat. Busta Rhymes
    2. Streets Disciple-Feat. Olu Dara
    3. U.B.R. (Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim)
    4. Virgo-Feat. Ludacris & Doug E. Fresh
    5. Remember The Times (Intro)
    6. Remember The Times
    7. The Makings Of A Perfect *****
    8. Getting Married
    9. No One Else In The Room-Feat. Maxwell
    10. Bridging The Gap-Feat. Olu Dara
    11. War-Feat. Keon Bryce
    12. Me & You (Dedicated To Destiny)
    13. Thief's Theme-Feat. Rising Son (bonus track)

    and....

    1. Get Up
    2. Nazareth Savage
    3. Play On Playa
    4. Just A Moment
    5. Serious
    6. Rest Of My Life
    7. You Know My Style
    8. Titalating
    9. Reason
    10. American Way
    11. Sekou Story
    12. Suicide Bounce
    13. Street's Disciple PT. 1
    14. Rakim Bio
    15. Remember The Times
    16. Perfect *****
    17. Getting Married
    18. Bridging The Gap
    19. War
    20. Me & You
    21. No One Else In The Room
    22. Live Now

    BONUS TRACKS:
    23. Disciple
    24. Thief's Theme
    25. Thief's Theme UK Remix feat. Rising Son

    Ignore the bonus bit

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  22. BarryBonds25

    BarryBonds25 Jedi Youngling star 3

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  23. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The second one is from the Nas UK site, which leads me to belive that US and UK are getting 2 different albums. Ill buy both, just for the extra tracks.

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  24. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The family of Andre ?Mac Dre? Hicks will hold a public viewing for the rapper, who was shot to death on a stretch of highway in Kansas City.

    The family will hold the viewing from noon to 5 p.m. at Mount Calvary Baptist Church, 1735 Enterprise Drive, in Fairfield, California

    A private service for the family will also take place.

    Police have met a stone wall while investigating the case, thus far. Reports said that as many as 12 people in Hicks? entourage refused to cooperate. Some even denied knowing him.

    Police are honing in on the Mac Dre?s tour schedule, seeking to determine a motive as to why the rapper was gunned down in what they say was a premeditated attack in a stolen car.

    Mac Dre released more than 20 albums during his career.


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  25. darth_boy

    darth_boy Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Nas- Good Morning, for any who wants it. Great song.
    http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25E5354F2EACADEC190C751AFFDD8D4A

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