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Rogue One [Official Info] Grand Moff Tarkin (Guy Henry and Peter Cushing) in Rogue One

Discussion in 'Anthology' started by Bosskkkk, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. PCCViking

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    The irony of Tarkin's decision to not use the full power is that it allowed the Rogues to escape Jedha (just barely). Had he agreed to destroy Jedha using the full power, they wouldn't have escaped.
     
  2. EHT

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    Yeah, that decision allowed them to escape... but "I think you overestimate their chances." :p

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  3. Darth Chiznuk

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    Yep. Tarkin ultimately makes a lot of mistakes that lead to his death. Not destroying Jedha, killing Krennic, not evacuating when he had the chance. Just like Palpatine his overconfidence is his undoing.
     
  4. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I actually like Tarkin in Rogue One better than in ANH. Maybe that's sacrilegious, but I just love how evil and scheming his is in it.
     
  5. Jedi Master Frizzy

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    I think the tech used in this movie and how he's used may be an indicator to how many times and how mutch he shows up in Andor. He's the comander and president of the empire.
     
  6. Bor Mullet

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    Huh?
     
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  7. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    He control the empire while Palpatine is off on his sith alchemy and enternal life.
     
  8. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    Nah, he's a high-ranking military officer who ends up controlling the Death Star project. He isn't in charge of the military in its entirety, nor is he making political decisions in the Empire. He's obviously powerful enough to make decisions about the fate of a planet, as can be seen with Alderaan, but that doesn't put him in comand of the Empire. I don't think either movie he is in portrays him as being all that involved in politics either.
     
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  9. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Ok not just Tarkin but all the ones we see in the death star meetings it is said they control the empire, while Palpatine is off doing his thing, it is mentioned in books i believe.
     
  10. Glitterstimm

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    This is a neat little deep fake. I didn't mind having CGI Tarkin, and I'd be interested in seeing Disney update the special effects used to create him as technology progresses in the years ahead.

     
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  11. Bor Mullet

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    Re: Tarkin, this is one case where I think the original is definitely better than the deepfake. The latter face seems too...smooth.

    But deepfake Leia is undoubtedly better.
     
  12. Iron_lord

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    While it's mentioned in the original ANH novelization:

    Another galaxy, another time.
    The Old Republic was the Republic of legend, greater than distance or time. No need to note where it was or whence it came, only to know that ... it was the Republic.
    Once, under the wise rule of the Senate and the protection of the Jedi Knights, the Republic throve and grew. But as often happens when wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones who have greed to match.
    So it was with the Republic at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able to withstand any external attack, the Republic rotted from within though the danger was not visible from outside.
    Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the Republic.
    Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears.
    Having exterminated through treachery and deception the Jedi Knights, guardians of justice in the galaxy, the Imperial governors and bureaucrats prepared to institute a reign of terror among the disheartened worlds of the galaxy. Many used the imperial forces and the name of the increasingly isolated Emperor to further their own personal ambitions.
    But a small number of systems rebelled at these new outrages. Declaring themselves opposed to the New Order they began the great battle to restore the Old Republic.
    From the beginning they were vastly outnumbered by the systems held in thrall by the Emperor. In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten peoples...


    later sources have emphasised that no-one controls the Emperor.
     
  13. Sarge

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    In my headcanon, the underlined is what Sheev wanted the galaxy at large to think was happening. That makes him less of a target and gives him greater freedom.
     
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  14. Django Fett

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    I think the scene where Romodi informs Tarkin that Krennic is at the Imperial Vault on Scarif would've worked better had it been later when Tarkin orders them to fire on Scarif.

    INT: Death Star Control Room
    Tarkin and Romodi stare at the viewscreen, watching the battle unfold.

    GENERAL ROMODI: Sir, shall we begin targeting their fleet?

    MOFF TARKIN: Lord Vader will handle the Rebel Fleet, target the data vault on Scarif,.. single reactor ignition.

    ROMODI: But sir, Director Krennic is currently at the data vault.

    TARKING: (ignoring Romodi's remark) You may fire when ready.

    ROMODI: Yes sir.

    It makes Tarkin look even more ruthless and really takes it forward into ANH when orders the destruction of Alderaan.
     
  15. Bor Mullet

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    I prefer the way it was done. A touch more subtlety, as you’re left wondering if that’s why Tarkin did what he did. This would make it obvious and thus a tad heavy-handed, and I think Rogue One succeeds in being such a believable story because it’s not so heavy-handed.
     
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  16. Django Fett

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    I don't think that's particularly heavy handed compared to the Vader scene, it doesn't emphasise the absolute ruthlessness of Tarkin, it absolutely nails it and at that moment it works better for me.
     
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  17. Devizz

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  18. Jedi Master Frizzy

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    This probaly needs updating once he appears in Andor!
     
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  19. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    If he appears in Andor.
    Unless I've missed an announcement?
     
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  20. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I have no doubt he'll cameo in ti as it serve as a prequel to Rogue one. I think same with Krennic and Galen Erso.
     
  21. EHT

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    But the point of the series seems to be to focus on Andor, and also on the early stages of the Rebel Alliance. It's not a "let's show everyone from Rogue One and ANH" series; if it's not someone that Andor knows and interacts with at that time, I doubt we'll see them.
     
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  22. Jedi Master Frizzy

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    It will focus on andor and rebellion yess, but we will also get some focus on the empire also i bet. Tarkin is like Saw Guerra seems to be the one they seem to fit in all there era they are alive. I think it will work like bad batch we have our heros and villains focus.
     
  23. MotivateR5D4

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    I would hope that Andor leads up to the events of RO. Because at that point Cassian was thoroughly involved with the Alliance and up to speed on a lot of things going on in the galaxy. He didn't get that way overnight. So I imagine as the show progresses we will see at least a few things that will connect to the events of RO. Not as forced cameos or anything. But through organic story telling. And it would be perfectly appropriate. What those things are remains to be seen though.

    For that matter, I wouldn't rule some kind of overt reference to Jyn or the Ersos, and maybe even implying that Cassian will cross paths with an Erso at some point. Perhaps he discovered an abandoned homestead on Lah'mu during a previous flyover, but thinks nothing of it. While we as the audience would obviously make that connection. Not saying that's going to happen, just if something like that did, I'd be for it. As long as it's good writing, and doesn't overtake the main story.
     
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  24. Lulu Mars

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    It will run parallel to Rebels, so I bet there'll be a reference or two to events taking place in that show - and since Tarkin is involved in those, he might serve as a link between the stories.
     
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