Rogue One [Official Info] Vanee (aka Hooded Man or Not Plagueis Not Snoke Not Palpatine) in Rogue One

You know what else has tubes in a circular arrangement? Plus there is a lot of vapour as well.



Bacta has a certain look imo and they would try to keep visual consistency. Why would they suddenly make it opaque and greenish? Unless it's not bacta but something else.

 

Do you think if he was, they would tell us? Do you REALLY think that?

 

It does certainly invoke the freezing chamber.

 

I'm leaning toward a bacta tank with the Emperor in it. Or Vader.

Or not.

I don't know.

 

No, but then again, I never said anything like that at all. He most definately wouldn't go out of his way to say that Snoke isn't in it, and then continue to clarify that Snoke isn't connected to the movie in any way, shape or form. It would be stupid to do so, as once the movie would come out, he would be caught lying over something he didn't really need to lie over. That would create a backlash, and there is no reason to risk something like that for no good reason whatsoever. Especially when it is such a non-issue.

If Snoke would be in the movie, Pablo Hidalgo simply wouldn't answer any questions about him. He would either ignore them or give an answer that doesn't tell you anything at all. Weird rumours pop up all the time, and they usually get ignored because people have better things to do than constantly denying useless rumours. If a member of the story-group goes out of his way to clarify this, then it most definately isn't something that can be doubted, especially after what happened to Abrams back when he lied about Khan not being in the new Star Trek.

 

I agree, if this was Legends the scene would make perfect sense.
At that time 0 BBY Cronal was an Emperor's hand and served as the director of Imperial Intelligence. He also required constant life preservation in a special chamber and as an important asset to the Emperor would probably be protected by the Imperial guard. The hooded man would be his dark jedi apprentice Jerec kneeling to his master.

The theft of top secret information would probably have been a huge deal for Cronal as the Emperor could have held him ultimately responsible for their security failure. It would make sense that he would send the Imperial Inteligence's own black -ops shadow stormtroopers to fix the problem.

Leaving the old EU, the hooded "Jerec" could be leading the black ops force while Vader leads his regular military forces and maybe they race against each other to recover the stolen plans (Jerec also hated Vader in Legends EU).

 

I think by simply redacting your post you might see that there is an unlimited amount of other characters it could be.

Your last sentence negates your first.
And the middle sentence is simply short sighted -- just because you are having a hard time seeing it -- does not mean a thing. Of course it could be anyone regardless of what any current theory indicates for any fan in particular.

Thus we have discussion forums

 

I've never said that my opinion or posts were the gospel truth. That said, Pablo did not outright deny Plagueis, he only denied "Snoke". No two ways about that. Remember, there was no Emperor or Darth Vader in TPM. In fact, for Vader, it could easily be said there was NO VADER in any way, shape, or form, in TPM. Remember what old Ben said...

"He ceased to be the Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So, what I told you was true... from a certain point of view."

 

Just don't be one of those that cries about being mislead when it doesn't work out that way.

 

Oh, my options are definitely open. But with the information we have so far, and logic, it makes the most sense, for the time being. NOW...if Pablo or someone with authority to speak comes out and straight up says "Darth Plagueis is not in this movie", then we'll have something. If he says "It's actually Tox Bindo in that tank," or "That's not a bacta tank," then we'll be on to something.

I think we are continually falling for this Snoke name game, and yet we know that all past darkside leaders have multiple names. Heck, Palpatine went by at least THREE names: Senator/Chancellor Palpatine, The Emperor, and Darth Sidious. If you had only known him by one ofthose names, you would have no way of knowing or suspecting (by name) that he was any of those other guys, especially Darth Sidious.

 

Lol. I don't think he could have been any clearer. He said it not once but twice.

Logically it isn't snoke, plagueis, or jar-jar. Name game or not they've got no role in this movie.

 

He was adamantly and absolutely clear that it was not...Snoke. Just some guy we know from the TFA as Snoke.

What characters in TPM knew that Darth Sidious was running the senate? Almost no one (Dooku and a few Nemoidians, in the whole galaxy).

Did the audience watching TPM know that Palpatine was Sidious? There is no outright admission or information in that movie to make that conclusion. Not by the movie alone. Most prior Star Wars fans probably knew that. But someone watching Star Wars for the first time, in the order that Lucas recommended once the PT was done, would have no logical certainty that Sidious was Palpatine or the Chancellor.

That said, I am open to other possible characters. But until we have a more concrete idea of who it could possibly be, I'll stick with Darth Plagueis.

 

For now i'm going with Sheev or the long anticipated canon version of Mara.

 

No, he said that Snoke is not connected to the movie in any way, shape or form. This already states that he isn't in it under a different name either, because if he was, it would directly contradict the "any way, shape or form" statement.

Also, this was about Snoke being in Rogue One, it has little to do with whether Snoke is Darth Plagueis.

 

Good debate, people. Enjoyable reading *thumbs up*

 

Like you said, the audience didn't know, but we knew.

The GA isn't following Pablo or posting on these boards. We're reading lots of information the GA isn't going to have going into the movie. In this case, it's that Snoke is not in rogue one, in any way shape or form.

 

What Pablo wrote can be understood in different ways, which means it is not proof of anything. Everyone is just as free to speculate as much as they were before, Pablo's words do not prove them wrong.

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about that. If there is ever a definitive answer on something, that was it.

 

I don't know if the hooded man is Palpatine or not, but I think it's likely that Palpatine IS in that scene (assuming it's kept in the movie, since there is precedence for movies not containing scenes from trailers or altering it for the movie itself). The key: the Royal Guards. In AOTC, ROTS and ROTJ, we never saw them apart from Palpatine. They were in Palpatine's office in AOTC when he was still a lowly chancellor; they moved to intercept Yoda in ROTS; and obviously, they were on the Death Star II in ROTJ.

 

Or the architect of the Death Star, Mads Mikkelson, who otherwise didn't appear in the trailer (the only main actor in the film who didn't...).

 

Yeah about that. What about the communicator guy in the cast shot. He wasn't in the trailer.

 

Oh, yeah. That guy. Well, that makes two of them (though he may be present in the AT-AT attack scene...). But I'm willing to bet that the guy in the black robes is Mads.

 

I don't think robes are part of the military dress code unless you happen to be a red guard.

 

Who wears such a black robe unless it's a dark side user?