Full Series Official Star Wars Rebels Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

So...maybe Vader killed Kallus to get his desk?

Only joking

 

Reminds me of some of the rooms from the Sith Academy in SWTOR. I likes it.

 

Haha, Vader and his melodramatic gesturing. I love it and hope that trait is kept in Rebels.

Kallus was tasked with warming Vader's seat. Unfortunately Vader chose to stand like he almost always does.

 

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It's definitely classic Imperial Period style, but on a less conscious level it reminds me of George Orwell's description of O'Brien's office in "1984." Gray and spacious with an air of neoclassicism - classic dictator chic.

 

Fantastic point Pfluegermeister. Really does have a 1984 feel to it.

 

I always assumed that was a hologram projector.

I bet Kallus's will be at least.

 

If Kallus' does turn out to be one, that could be construed as confirmation that the aforementioned big weird ball in the Death Star conference room really WAS a hologram projector.

 

The Official Fact File 36 has an article on the Death Star Conference room - and I believe that ball is brought up, as a hologram projector.

Still Legends though.

 

The ball is a disco for private confrence room parties.

 

Exactly. I'm talking about Grade-A Canon confirmation. Plus, we've simply never seen one of these hologram projector globes in action before; we've been told what they are in the EU, as you've said, and we can imagine what it'd look like based on other large holograms, but that's still not the same as being SHOWN what it looks like in operation.

 

Isn't there a hologram projection on Palpatine's desk, that he shuts down when Anakin walks into the room, in RoTS?

 

I honestly want to know what he was looking at.

 

I thought it was Death Star related.

 

Best bet probably.

 

Oh, yes, there is. It just didn't come out of a globe thingie.

 

Wonder if one of the various "books about SW props" discusses it - and if that would count?

 

Yeah, it was apart of the setup.

 

They appear to be using early Star Wars and the Original Battlestar Galactic referencing Ancient cultures and often Biblical references or names.

Sabine and Hera are from Greece and Italy, Hera was a Ancient Greek Goddess and Sabines were an ancient people of Central and Southern Italy. The Sabines are important in Roman foundation legend with the "rape of the Sabine" women as a popular reference. Kanan , Ezra and Zeb are names taken out've the Bible and such, Semitic origin. Kanan means merchant or trader in Arabic and its variant of Canaan. While his real name Caleb is angelized from Hebrew Kalev which means dog, or heart. Ezra means "help" in Hebrew and a name of one of the Prophets. Zeb is harder to pin down, they chose an Italian or Spanish as it is from Latin Aurelio/Orrelios surname for this character. It should mean "golden", was popular among some early Christian Saints. Zeb should also be Hebrew from the Bible, taken from Zebediah "gift of Jehovah". Perhaps they changed it later in production to something not unintelligible with this "Garazeb". The name sounds Semitic related but could be some contraption taken from Irish name Gara which means "mastiff" which is again from Latin mastivus which means dog or a breed of a powerfully built dog and the Hebrew name Zebediah.

 

That's interesting.

 

I think Jarus is from Teutonic, means conqueror or war-leader. Dume may be anglicized of the term duma, which is from Germanic as well, means "thought" or "judgment". More popular use is from Czarist Russia, the Duma, the legislative assembly. There is a Christian monastery in Portugal with the name Dume though.

 

Sabine is a normal german name too. When I went to school, there was one in my class once.

 

yea but the name origin is from Latin, Sabina.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/sabina.

I find it interesting that Juno was the Roman equivalent of the Greek Hera, and both are heroic pilots for an unorthodox Jedi or Sith affiliated warrior characters fighting the Empire. Juno Eclipse for Galen Marek/Starkiller and Hera Syndulla for Kanan Jarrus.

I should add that "wren" is a type of singing bird . The name comes from Old English "wrenna". The singing bird motif also fits Sabine Wren's character and Nite Owl affiliation.

Kallus is just Callus with a K. From Latin means : a hard and thickened area on the skin and especially on the hands or feet .

Or the related:

Callous: not feeling or showing any concern about the problems or suffering of other people



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/callus

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/callous

 

Anakin has an interesting etymology as well. Seems Lucas was quite inspired from his friend Ken Annakin's last name. One of Anakin's nicknames was "Ani":

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Annakin#ixzz3DKn6MsNh

Am curious over Cham Syndulla now.

Cham is a name of Noah's 2nd son in Hebrew, it means Warm or hot.

Unsure of Syndulla, could be a play on Greek words Syn and Doula:

Syn:united; acting or considered together.

Doula: a woman who assists women during labor and after childbirth.

 

I should first explain that I am a big fan and supporter of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, the animated TV series made to bridge the gaps between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. For a show that was originally meant to get kids interested in the franchise, it had a surprising amount of mature content, characters, and themes. For me, everything onward from the beginning of Season 3 was very interesting, and made me think about many of the things that I didn't understand about the time period. Things like the individual personalities of the Clone soldiers, the extent of Sith control over every aspect of the war, and how the war affected those caught in the crossfire. It didn't have a problem with killing off main characters, and I actually felt bad when they died. I even felt bad when Clones died, after seeing them in this new light. I shed a tear or two when my favorite characters were killed. There was an amount of maturity that isn't always present in Star Wars, and it was a welcome change.

Now, Star Wars: Rebels... the show that was started when Disney came to influence the franchise in a big way, the show that demanded a stop to Clone Wars while it was still in production (Season 6 was thankfully released on Netflix, but Season 7 was being worked on, and was cancelled). While basically the same team that worked on Clone Wars is now part of the Rebels production team, they are extremely different. Clone Wars differed from the original trilogy, making a story more based on the effects of war, rather than the heroes fighting it. Rebels appears to be returning to the idea of the original trilogy, an adventure story featuring a crew of seemingly invincible heroes.

First of all, I've noticed quite a few similarities between the original trilogy and Rebels. Actually, it would be more accurate to say that I've seen copied material from the original trilogy. The crew of the Millennium Falcon and the crew of the Totally-Not-The-Millennium-Falcon, the Ghost, can be compared to find quite a few similarities. We have the pilot (Han/Hera), the self-exiled Jedi (Obi-Wan/Kanan), the brute (Chewbacca/Zeb), the force-sensitive rebellious kid (Luke/Ezra), and the droid (R2-D2/Chopper). Sabine, the Mandalorian explosives expert/graffiti artist (don't even get me started on that...), seems to be the only original character, unless you find a way to compare her to Leia. Maybe she turns out to be Mandalorian royalty or something... The main villain, the Inquisitor, can easily be related to Darth Vader, and Agent Kallus could probably be compared to Tarkin. The similarities are even more obvious when you consider that the Ralph Mcquarrie concept art for R2-D2 (a shorter astromech with arms on the "head") was used for Chopper's design, and the concept art for Chewbacca (a race called the Lasan, which was replaced by the Wookies) was used as the design for Zeb. It appears that they're new obsession with using old Mcquarrie concepts for the "new" franchise has continued in this.

Secondly, and more importantly, I've noticed that this is not at all like Clone Wars in terms of maturity. So far, all I've seen from the previews is childish dialogue and trivial conflict. It's like they abandoned everything about making it more intelligent or mature, and have elected to make a cartoon about heroes fighting mindless drones. I've heard the production team say that they want the new crew to be challenged by their enemies, but all I've seen is a single Sith as the primary villain, who seems to be a challenge, and a single Imperial officer as a secondary villain. The rest are pompous officers and mindless squads of stormtroopers. It's almost like they took the personalities of the battle droids from Clone Wars and gave them to the stormtroopers. They're dimwits who can't hit the broad side of a barn, basically living up to their joke reputation from the movies. I've seen no indication that this show will have any type of deep story for those of us who put time into thinking about the stories that we enjoy. So far, it's been nothing but invincible heroes blasting their way through drone after drone in an attempt to piss off the Empire. Honestly, I would send someone to kill them too, they're a damn nuisance. One of them blew up a squad of stormtroopers... with PAINT!

In conclusion, based on what I've seen from trailers and previews, this will be nothing more than a Saturday morning superhero cartoon, or the Star Wars equivalent to it. It's displayed no maturity, no originality, and nothing to interest the older fans like myself. I mean, I'm 19, and I still think this is nothing but childish crap. The visual quality is not that great either, considering that that the team that worked on this made the amazing animation and models of the last seasons of Clone Wars.

Now, I cannot stress this enough. These are my first impressions SO FAR. I haven't seen a full episode yet, and I will watch the show when it comes out to give it a fair judgement, as I did with Clone Wars (that sure paid off). I thought I'd give my opinion beforehand, in the hope (and likely, future disappointment) that my feedback will help change it for the better.

If you have anything to add, anything I missed, or any opinion on my opinion, I'd like to hear the impressions of others on this issue.