*OFFICIAL THREAD* Crazy Episode III Theories!

Something facinating about human biology:

We know a human female can produce 2 eggs, one from each ovary. One can mature 12 hours after the other one. And there are stories of women, with mulitple partners having 2 child by two different men at one pregnancy.

So:

Padme and Obi-wan are in bed. Suddenly Obi-wan jumps up.
he says, "I sense Anakin is home!"
so he rapidly gets up and dresses (whirlwinding like the Tazmanian devil), but can't excape, so he hides in the bathroom.
Meanwhile, Padme gets up and puts on a robe, and Anakin walks in.
"hi honey, I'm not expecting you back from the war so soon!" Padme says.
"Hi, I'm glad these years of seperation has not dimenish your beauty...wait, I feel a disturbance in the force..."
and before he finishes, Padme jumps on him...and starts doing stuff that she never would do before.
Later, she shoos him to the kitchen to get a milkshake for her, and looks for Obi-Wan in the bathroom. She notices the window is open, and that he jumped down.
"whoo, that's over with"

9 months latter she has twins. Yoda, before going into the delivary room, tells Mace, "two there are."
"yes", Mace says, "both of them can be trained, and defeat Lord Vader and Palpatine."
"Wait a moment", Mace says after examining both children, "someone has been playing both sides of the fences....one of these belongs to Skywalker, but who could this one belong too?"

So that is why Vader could not detect Leia was his daughter....because Obi-Wan is Leia's father! Also, why no one bother to think to train her, since she is a child of a weaker Jedi.

 

OK, Hows this for crazy plot twists.

Jar Jar is Sidious.

Bender from Futurama created R2D2 to be a walking wet bar, explaining how good he was on Jabba's sail barge.

Obi Wan and Anakin both have the same father, which is Qui-Gonn. Shmi doesn't recognize Qui-Gonn because he used the Jedi mind trick on her and he only wants to take Anakin so he can get a tax break.

Yoda and Mace Windu find out about the corruption in the Senate and try to eliminate the problem by dropping out of the ceiling of the senate room and start killing everyone because they thought it looked cool in Boondock Saints. Its only partly successful, with Mace Windu taking out 1000 Senators and Clone Troopers, as well as numerous Star Destroyers before being overwhelmed and killed by the Death Star. (Sam Jackson insisted this so he "wouldn't look like a sucka").

Yoda escapes and realizes how all of the technology has corrupted the universe and decides to start a commune on Dagobah. But no one wants to come and Yoda is stranded.

And last but not least, it turns out that Padme had an affair and the father of the twins is Greedo, who then finds Hans father and tries to shoot him in the balls, proving that Greedo shot first.

 

-Palpy will have the Jedi purged, because seeing or hearing dead people proves they are not totally sane

-Padme will end up a waitress at Dex's Dinner

-The trade Federation will lose everything in a fraud concerning condos on Hoth

-Watto will end up with the contract to build the Death Star

-Jar Jar will be hit by gamma rays, therefore becoming the Rancor when he's angry

-Floridians will vote for Palpatine

-The Ewoks are in fact Jedi who are hiding very well (Mace Windu is with Chewie in the AT-ST)

-Sidious will realize that his screening time has been cut a lot between TPM and AOTC

 

After reading the Technical Commentaries regarding the Injuries of Darth Vader (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html), it appears that Anakin suffered a severe neck injury.

Is there a possibility that Anakin will be decapitated in Episode III?

 

right, but they attach the head to C-3PO's body...

 

They all get off the island.

 

Sidious will use the Ugnaughts to wipe out the remaining Jedi...

Anakin will kill Dooku, Boba Fett will kill Mace Windu, the droids will get their memories wiped before the join Captain Antilles.

Anakin never learns of the birth of the twins, Obi-Wan (after chopping off the rest of Anakin's limbs and gutting him like a fish) will take the twins - Luke to the Lars family on Tatooine, Leia to Bail Organna on Alderaan.

Anakin, as Vader, confronts Obi-Wan, sending him into hiding on Tatooine (with Luke, at the behest of Yoda (side note: Obi-Wan and Baby-Luke drop Yoda off on Dagobah along the way... SW:ESB wasn't the first time Luke was on Dagobah, as we will see). Vader later confronts and kills Padme (which is fine, because Portman looks totally disinterested in being in Star Wars).

Last scene - a fleet of Star Destroyers amassing around a work-in-progress Death Star (ala Return of The Jedi), Vader and Palpatine looking on.

 

Here's a list of my theories:


1. DOOKU'S DEATH AND ANAKIN'S TURN TO THE DARK SIDE- Obi-wan will realize that Padme is pregnant right after the clone wars have ended. To prevent Anakin from getting kicked out of the Jedi Order (they obviously need him in the order because he is the chosen one)Obi-wan will hide Padme from Anakin. After Anakin finds out Padme has disappeared he immeidiatley blames the Confederacy of Independent Systems. So I believe that halfway through the film Count Dooku will be assassinated by Anakin, because Anakin thinks Dooku is behind Padme's dissapearence. This was obviously not planned by Darth Sidious so he needs to quickly find someone to replace Dooku. He sees that opportunity in Anakin. Darth Sidious confronts Anakin and tells him that Padme is dead and that Obi-wan killed her. Anakin becoming the hateful person he is believes Sidious. Sidious offers to complete Anakin's training. Anakin accepts and becomes an aprentice of the Dark Side.

2. SIDIOUS, PALAPATINE, PADME, HIDING OF LUKE AND LEIA- Now that Anakin had turned to the Dark Side, Sidious must kill the threats to him. The threats I speak of are Anakin's offsrings. Sidious will know where Obi-wan hid Padme because Obi-wan told Chancellor Palapatine, since he obviously trusts him, where he hid her. Since most likely Palapatine and Sidious are one-in-the-same he'll know exactly where to go. Sidious will go to the place where Padme is hiding. This will happen after Anakin and Obi-wan have had their climatic duel. Padme has already given birth to Luke and Leia. Obi-wan has obviously taken them. Padme knows that Anakin has turned to the Dark Side and realizes that she must hide her children. Obi-wan offers to hide them. So he takes Luke and Leia leaving Padme since hiding the children are the top priority. By the time Sidious gets there Obi-wan is already gone. Out of hatred Sidious kills Padme. Anakin, who still has a tiny bit of good in him, still believes Padme might be alive. However Sidious brings Padme's body to Anakin, who is being transformed into Darth Vader, giving him the final proof that she is dead. Sidious then enforces what he said before saying that Obi-wan killed her.

3. THE JEDI ASSASSINATION- As we all know the Jedi knights all get assassinated by Darth Vader. As the Clone Wars end the Jedi still sense a heavy evil within the Senate. They start to believe that Dooku was right when he said that the Senate was under Sith control. The Jedi start to investigate the Senate. However one Senator is getting in their way. Maybe Senator Tarkin is getting in their way. Tarkin manipulates the Senate into believing that the Jedi knights are trying to take control over the Republic. This makes the Jedi look like bad guys. So after a long debate Palaptine [Sidious] orders all Jedi knights to be killed. He first sends regular Clone Troopers, who are evolving into Storm Troopers, to kill all the Jedi. Obviously the Jedi easily beat the Clone Troopers. Since the Jedi have been killing the Clone Troopers, WHO ARE armies of the Republic, Palaptine enforces the fact that Jedi are trying to corupt the Republic. He then orders the building of the Confederate Super Weapon a.k.a. THE DEATH STAR to use against the Jedi Knights. The Jedi still don't back down. Finally Sidious sends out his most dangerous weapon to kill the Jedi...DARTH VADER. Within a short amount of time Darth Vader along with armies of Storm Troopers kill vast amounts of Jedi knights. Yoda goes into hiding on the swamp planet of Dagobah. Obi-wan, who has already handed Leia to Bail Organa (By the way Bail Organa is one of the Senators that DOES NOT think the Jedi are trying to corrupt the Senate), goes to Tatooine. On Tatooine Obi-wan gives Luke to Owen and Beru Lars. Obi-wan decides to stay there and hide. HOWEVER BEFORE Obi-wan gives Luke to Owen Lars he gets a visit from an old friend. He gets visited by the ghost of his old master Qui-Gon Jinn. Qui-Gon tells Obi-wan that Anakin is still the chosen one. He can proove this because Anakin has children. Qui-Gon tells Ob

 

I just thought of something to add to my theories. Obi-wan could hide Padme on Dagobah. That would explain why said "This is place seems familiar." Yoda is also taken there to protect Padme. But when Sidious retunrs he wounds Yoda and kills Padme.

 

Re: Antilles.

That's a common-ish name. At least in EU, it is made clear that Wedge Antilles, a Corellian, has no relation to Bail Antilles or Captain Antilles of the Tantive IV...

*Crazy theory* BUT WHAT IF THE EU IS WRONG??!?!?!

Okay, maybe not TOO crazy...

 

Darth Sidious is really a psychotic cat!

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simple as 1-2-3 on how vader turns
-dooku and palpatine devise a plan to play out a scene where palpatine is being attacked by dooku when anakin arrives to see palpatine. the only way anakin could fight off dooku is if he harnesses the power of the dark side, while he fights dooku, palpatine reveals his darkside powers to anakin(cause anakin can't beat dooku alone) and helps kill dooku(not part of the plan), thus double-crossing dooku and tells anakin that he will teach him to use the power of the force to become greater than obi-wan behind obi-wans back seeing how much he hates being taught by obi-wan. obi-wan and padme both realize that anakin has been acting differently in a dark way. sensing the darkside in anakin, he convinces padme to hide the children from anakin. after so long, anakin becomes very evil and when he finds out his own wife has hid his own children from him while he was training to be a jedi, he goes crazy, thus killing padme(it makes sense cause his true love has double-crossed him), seeing this happen obi-wan reacts by attacking anakin and beating the crap out of him, cutting his limbs off, enter palpatine and a few thousand stormtroopers, huge battle emerges between a few jedi against a few thousand stormtroopers, all the remaining jedi get killed, mace windu byes time for obi-wan and yoda to escape while he faces palpatine in a huge fight, thus getting him killed. anakin, barely alive, is saved by the emperor, who uses robotic arms and legs to keep him alive, thus enters darth vader. the attack on anakin by the jedi fully turns anakin to the darkside. with padme dead, and no more jedi, palpatine buts martial law over the galaxy, thus creating the emperor, thus creating the empire. at the end of the film you see obi-wan and yoda made it out ok, yoda drops off obi-wan who vowes to look over luke and to keep him safe just incase vader comes looking for him, and yoda seeks shelter at dagobah(why i dont know yet but i'm sure that damn cave has something to do with it). it seems ok, but then the camera moves to worlds being seized by the empire, inslaving naboo and the gungans(exspecially jar jar binks) and the wookie homeworld(cameo by chewbacca and his family who can be seen in the star wars christmas special), even making it worse, darth vader, with the whole dark suit and everything, arrives in a shuttle tyderian at a obvious skelaton of the death star.
THUS CONCLUDING EPISODE 3
george lucas eat your heart out

 

Hayden Christensen, before most of the live actions scenes are filmed, spills the beans. GL decides to can Hayden, and from some all ready shot fotage decides to show in the beggining Anakin's starship being blown up in a figth above Alderaan.
So for 95% of the movie we see Anakin in a Darth Vader suit (not played by Hayden). At first, he is recovering with Padme on Naboo, but they can't go outside because he keeps on scaring people. Padme finally tells him she has to leave him because he is all hideous. Anakin runs into the forest, and becomes a big menace to life there, and so people petition the Chacellor to destroy this mad creature. We next see an enraged, babbling Anakin (still in the Darth Vader suit) being presented to Palpatine in chains, but Palpatine lets him out of the chains and befriends him. Anakin is so greatful for being understood...

End of the movie, we see a glowing cell, surronded by muted lights (like in the beggining of "Look whose talking" movies). We hear two voices:

"Well, the first one we conceived turned out badly, now what?"

"Well, we should try again, but this time make it twins."

and the meticlorians conceive Luke and Leia.

 

A couple of the guys I game SW with started discussing the whole plot of the five SW movies, to try and come up with some idea to what will be reveiled in Ep.III. The main idea the worked with was really quite disturbing.

Palpatine is a emmensly powerful Sith, right? If he can hide from thousands of Jedi, even in the same from as powerful jedi, like Mace, Yode and Ki-Adi, AND take over the galaxy, he's got to be powerful.
Plus, this how plot of his to take over the galaxy has been in the works for years. He's an absolute evil genius, to have the patients to sit 15 years before he actually starts to reap some reward.

So what if Anakin was part of the plot?
What if, using the force, (remember Shmi don't remember a thing) he got Shmi pregnant. Either erasing her mind afterward or using for force power that no-one knows exists.

That would just make Palpatine even more of a sinister, evil genius.
AND that whole scene at the end of ROTJ would just be scary and disturbing. It wouldn't just be father and son, but the grand-father too.

This whole thing is really far-fetched, but I thought I mention it cause the idea just sent shivers down my spine.

 

Get this.

Dooku left the order because he couldn't dance if he wanted to, so he left his friends behind. His friends didn't dance, and since they didn't dance, they were no friends of Count Dooku.

 

Anakin's mother told him he has no father because she knew how evil Palpatine is. Palp. is Anakin's father! She was sheltering Anakin from knowing his real father. Palp. sold his wife and son into slavery to make money to fund his campaign in Naboo. It's all part of his plan. Make money for campaign, aquire emergency powers, declare self emperor. If your son's father was Adolf Hitler would you tell him? She doesn't want Anakin to join Palp. Palpatine knew this and had her killed in AOTC. (Tuskens walk in lines to hide their numbers, they didn't in AOTC) She was kidnapped by Palp's agents because she was working to stop Anakin from joining Palpatine and thus destroying his plan.

 

lol!!

very funny momaw

 

jmunee19, you had a great idea, about Palp setting it up, where Anakin walks in on Dukoo, looking like he is about to hurt Palps, Anakin defends a seemingly helpless Palps,. That just sounds great, making Anakin "saving" palps. Then Anakin feels he has to save Palps from other harms, that at first is not bad, but leading to Palps feeling threatened by the Jedi.

 

The following scenarios aren't that crazy, just unsubstantiated speculation.

1. Dooku realizes the error of his ways, returns to the side of good, and tells the Jedis that Palpatine is Sidious. The Jedi rebel against Palpatine, who recruits a still-loyal Anakin as his new Sith Apprentice. Palpatine outlaws the Jedi and puts a new all-human officer corps led by Tarkin in charge of the clone army.

2. Obi-Wan, Dooku, and Yoda all team up against Anakin in a big duel on a volcanic planet. Dooku is killed, Yoda is wounded, and Anakin falls into a lava pit while fighting Obi-Wan.

3. The Separatists join forces with a few Republic senators opposed to Palpatine (including Padme, Jar Jar, Bail Organa, and Mon Mothma) to form the Rebel Alliance.

4. Dooku is Anakin's biological father.

5. Anakin actually dies in the lava pit, only to be resurrected by the power of the Force.

6. There will be Clone Wars, plural. The first is the Jedi and the clones vs. the Separatists, the second is the Imperials and the clones vs. the Jedi.

7. The Jedi fadeaway trick will be revealed as part of a way to pass your Force powers onto another.

8. Mace, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Plo Koon, and other Jedis will die in an attempt to destroy the cloning centre on Kamino.

9. Aurra Sing and Boba Fett will be among the bounty hunters hired to kill the Jedis.

10. Jar Jar will play a much bigger role in Episode III than he did in AOTC. In attonement for helping Palpatine's rise to power, Jar Jar sacrifices his life to protect infants Luke and Leia.

-Dubya Fett
Fettism of the Day: ANAKIN: "I hate the sand. It's rough and course - and it gets everywhere. Not like you. You are everything that's soft... and smooth."

PADME: (bursts out laughing)...Oh wait, you're serious!"

 

Just a stray thought, but let's say Anakin, failed to bring balance to the force, so we think his son is who bring balance to the force. Well (as if) when ep. 7-9 come out, we find out that Luke isn't the one who brings balance to the force, because he was conceived normally, not by metichlorians. In fact, lets say in ep III they mention only the one who can bring balance to the force is one who is conceive by medichlorians...so we will wonder if Luke is the chosen one (even though all he did was redeem the father), or if he was conceived by midichlorians, that is why Anakin never realized that Padme is pregnant.

But anyway, lets say in ep. 7-9, we find out there is a Jedi, who is doing wierd things, and Luke is trying to find out more, and we will wonder if this new Jedi is the choosen one (since I gusse Anakin failed) or not. And we can have the New Republic wary of the Jedi. At the end we find out Luke is not the one that really was born to bring balance to the force.

 

How about this:

Schmii is evil....

Hmm, crazy, but for what I have read here, one of the only crazy possibilities that COULD come true.

Emperor and Anakin, one on one, Emperor tells Anakin that HE is His father(the movies "rhyme"), and that Schmii was evil.

"Join me", says the Emperor, and "we can rule the galaxy as Father and Son",

(reference to the Bible?)

Hey all ya'all, just call me "crazy!"

 

Here is another "theory"...

NOONE, who is ever a "good" guy, will eventually, and ultimately be a "bad" guy,

We see this in Lord Vader, who gets redeemed.

We will see this with Count Dooku, who, in Episode III, will get redeemed,(read the ttheorys of Count Dooku being a good guy)

Knowing this, we know:

Darth Maul was always bad,
Emperor was always bad,

SSifo-Dyas, mentioned as a good guy, CANNOT be Sidious,

Mace Windu, a "good" guy,..... once good, ultimately good, (forget ALL of the speculation about Him being bad, not enough time for redemtion in part III)

Hmm, Palpatine, "good" in a way, but never never NEVER refered to as a GOOD guy in the 2 movies which we have so far. He is BAD BAD BAD, and always will be.Have we EVER seen him do something that would be construed as "good"? Palpatine = Sidious

Hmm, this answers ALOT of Q's my friends,

Once good, always good, ULTIMATELY.

This also refers to the Bible. NOTHING can take away your salvation.

THANKS for listening.

-Tony

P.S. Jesus is Lord

 

Alright this is probably the most insane theory yet.

Ok here goes.


Who ever said that Padme was Luke and Leia's mother?

I mean just because she is a major character and married Anakin doesnt make her officially the mother of Luke and Leia.

Maybe Anakin has an affair after thinking that Obi-Wan had an affair with Padme then once he turns he kills Padme. And the girl who he had the affair with is carrying his baby without him knowing and gives birth to Leia and Luke. This is probably the most insane theory yet but it could fit in with the story line but, seeing as though Lucas likes to keep his movies PG this has a slim to nil chance of happening. Just food for thought.

 

I don't know if anyone has thrown this outlandish idea out there yet, if so kudos.

DARTH BANE = DARTH SIDIOUS !!!

How? Why?

That can be answered in one lengthy explanation.

The Official Database says this about the Sith "Darth Bane restructured the cult, so that there could only be two -- no more, no less -- a master, and an apprentice. Bane adopted cunning, subterfuge, and stealth as the fundamental tenets of the sith order. Bane took an apprentice. When that apprentice succeeded him, that new Sith Lord would take an apprentice." And my theory does not change this?.

Now I'm Darth Bane. Being evil and a megalomaniac I want no usurpers to my power. I also don't give a damn about preserving The Sith Order for I am out for my power alone (The Order obviously didn't work) - who gives a crap about the pissants that come after me. But why do I take an 'apprentice'? He is the vessel by which I shall live again. Reincarnation in a sense.

The Jedi order learns about the transfer to spirit life supposedly in Ep3 but Darth Bane had learned about it millennia before. Taking that which is sacred, defiling it and twisting it to his own dark devices. Patience is Bane?s middle name, he need not rush his plan of ultimate domination, he can always inhabit another.

This would answer the following questions:

1. We?ve all wonder about why there needs to be a balance in the Force. Obviously it?s been needed for sometime if there?s an age old prophecy about it. The balance was undone not by the Sith being around but by Darth Bane cheating death and displacing the proper order of things in the universe. That is why when he dies the balance is finally returned though there may still be some being practicing the dark side within the universe.
2. Anakin has a desire to cheat death (shown in AOTC) and as Vader his awe and respect for the Emperor is as if he was worshiping a god. Darth Maul didn?t grovel in such a manner because simply put he didn?t know. Now many think that Anakin fears the Emperor because the Emperor zaps Anakin down with force lightning but as shown in AOTC this is easily averted with a lightsaber so its importance was purposely played down by Mr. Lucas. Anakin learns of Banes secret and Bane promises life eternal to Anakin.
3. Obi-Wan?s statement that if the Emperor knew Darth Vader had offspring that they would be a threat to him takes on even greater meaning.
4. Obi-Wan?s statement that if Luke will not kill his father than the Emperor has already won also takes on greater meaning. Think of Darth Bane in a body of with the midichlorian count of Anakin.

On and on I could go on how many questions could be answered but I would rather see you all discuss it.

 

Here's another Crazy silly theory:

End Of E-3, An aged HC as Anakin is sitting in a chair surrounded by "Solo Kids" (from what little I understand about the EU there are at least 20 of them or more).

Solo Kids: "Tell us more Granpa Anakin! What happened to Uncle Obi-wan?"