*OFFICIAL THREAD* General Grievous in Ep3

A Force-sensitive alien, eh?

GG, alien. GG Allin. Maybe the General's a rock n roller.

Joke of the day:

Where does General Grievous keep his armies?
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
In his sleavies

 

Dies and is Reborn?

I mean, I love Sci-Fi and all, but there's a limit. I always liked SW cuz it didn't go all overboard like most Sci-Fi films. I mean, there was always this faint realistic charm to it.

But 4 lightsabers and dying/being reborn is just overkill. It sounds like something a little kid would come up with.

 

So basicly, what you're saying is Vader was a bad idea.

Not to mention, where is it mentioned that GG died and was re-born as a cyborg.

 

Vader didn't "die." He almost did, sure, but he was put into the armor before he actually died.

And I didn't say Vader was a bad idea. Grievous is a bad idea.

 

Grievous is a bad idea.


You mean you think he may be a bad idea. I don't know how you can make that judgement since you have no idea what he "actually" looks like, what he sounds like, what his actual role is, how big that role will end up being and how it will come across on screen.

My guess is that you just hate cg characters.

 

grievous is proportionate.

there are 4 SABER hilts on his waist.
his legs are pretty large making him very tall, but his head is smaller than normal. his cape covers most of his body when hanging straight. plus the cartoonish aspect of the clone wars pic vs. the more realistic book cover and sketches will make grievous an awesome addition to the star wars pantheon.

 

I think the idea of a non-Jedi or non-Sith using a lightsaber is blasphemy

although I am going to be open-minded towards this character and give him a chance

it couldn't be worse than Dooku....I HATED Dooku...I much rather liked the original idea of a regenerating Darth Maul to return in AOTC and give him the time and dialogue that he deserves, but oh well, Maul is dead....for good....hopefully this new General will be half as cool as Maul was

 

I think the idea of a non-Jedi or non-Sith using a lightsaber is blasphemy

Well first of all, Lucas decides what's blasphemy or not. Secondly, ESB must be blasphemous by your standards then...

 

A former Jedi is close enough to a Jedi or Sith. GG using lightsabers makes perfect sence.

 

okay Fox
I dont' really think Han Solo counts considering he used it for about half a milisecond and didn't use it in battle

and GL also decided that Jar Jar Binks woudl make a good character so....

 

I would assume General Grevious is some kind of Jedi. Otherwise him using a lightsaber wouldn't make much sense. A lightsaber is a powerful weapon only because Jedi can feel what the opponent is going to do next.

I'm not going to make any judgement calls until I see him in action. Although I'm not sure why we need another bad guy, I would much rather have Lucas focus on character development and the breakdown of Anakin than introducing characters that have little to do with the overall story.

 

Thought I would just copy and paste a post I've just made on the Empire website, where there is a lack of faith I find disturbing (Hopefully it will chime with people round here too!!):

"Being heavily spoiled for Ep3, I'm very okay with the idea of grievous and his place in the scheme of things.

EP1 Had innefectual droids and practically invincible Jedi.
Ep2 Had newer, improved droids. Nearly all the jedi who were in the battle at the end died.
Ep3 progresses the droids further, a cyborg, capable of killing jedi, but HUGE and therefore vulnerable to blasters.

There is a point, and here it is:

The technology develops, and by the time Anakin needs a suit and cybernetics to keep him alive, they exist. The corruption of life and technology theme is completed a jedi enters the technological mix.

Say what you want about the dialogue and effects, and I'll agree with a lot of it, but the 'subtext' is second to none.

and as for there being no dominant bad guy in the trilogy, that's deliberate, for a number of reasons.

1)The main bad guy is there all along, and comes out from the shadows in Ep3, as most of you surely already know.

2) There would be a risk of a new, consistent onscreen baddie overshadowing Vader, so not allowing one to develop means the biggie turns up at the end.

3) A consistent bad guy needs a suitable comeuppance/final showdown. Where that would traditionally be, Anakin and Obi Wan will be duking it out. If you have seen any of the leaked footage, you'll know how violent this gets, and if you haven't seen the footage, prepared to be alarmed by how Anakin and Hayden beat the ***** out of each other. But this is the showdown the films are building towards, so less important bad guys have to come in to be knocked out of the way to temporarily balance the character mix.

4) Whether you've noticed, or not, Lucas has been using principal bad guys that showcase an aspect of Vader:

Maul = Vader's Rage
Dooku = Vader's air of 'Nobility'
Grievous = Vader's 'life after death'.

Each of these bad guys gets offed because their principle attribute isn't strong enough by itself, but combined in Vader, once the powers of a jedi have been added into the mix, the bad guy path is complete.

I've accepted what I perceive to be weaknesses in the first two films and don't mind them too much. Partly because there's plenty in the Original Trilogy if you go looking for them, but mainly because if Episode 3 is anywhere near as dark as it seems like the spoilers suggest, then it seems to me that Lucas has had a plan all along to make the overmaligned ep1 to end up being something a little more weighty once the 'ohmy*******god' reaction to what Anakin will do in ep3, and what becomes of him, the 'pretentious' and 'laboured' atmosphere some believe TPM has will be justified whan the film is viewed with the Ep3 scenes burned into your mind, and things that seem naive, innocent, perhaps even the cheesy bits will feel different, and Lucas will have very bravely made a film with it's heart on it's sleeve, put up with the **** he's got for it, in order to make the story arc from light to dark as extreme as possible, knowing that he can't please everyone, but trusting that when all three 'verses' are told, the combined effect will be more powerful than the individual parts at times.

For instance, Anakin saying goodbye to his mum. Found that cheesy when first seeing TPM. Then after seeing AOTC, that scene grows a little. In Ep3, when Anakin is practically insane with rage when it transpires that he could have saved her if the jedi had told him more about his powers (my inference), that scene will be 'off the charts' as an emotional moment.

OH, FINALLY, BACK ON TOPIC!!!

The 'main bad guys' of the prequels appear a little like sideshows to the main event. Because that's exactly what they are. They don't necessarily seem big enough to dominate each film, but that's only so that when we've seen Anakin and Obi fight, any scene that involves either of those characters immediately gets mo

 

Rumor has it that Obi-Wan is surprised to find out who he is-as well as the audience-after he kills him. Darth Maul is General Grievous. Period. What else could the big mystery be? Sifo-Dyas? A character who we never saw and wouldn't care about? I doubt it. G.L. has deceived us before in the past by using different meanings in his words without giving away too much. He's more machine now than Zabrak, twisted and evil. He ceased to be Maul and became General Grievous under no will of his own.

 

Official Site...
"A pained look of bewilderment crossed Maul's tattooed face as death overtook him. His body fell into the melting pit, splitting in two as it tumbled into oblivion.


Death:
1 The act of dying; termination of life
2 The state of being dead

Melting:
1 To be changed from a solid to a liquid state especially by the application of heat.
2 To dissolve
3 To disappear or vanish gradually as if by dissolving

Oblivion:
1 The condition or quality of being completely forgotten


Maul is dead, gone, melted, history. Let it go, fanboys.

 

Is today the day for GG on Hyperspace?

 

Is today the day for GG on Hyperspace?

Should be. RM said that hyperspace members would get a better look at Grievous this week. They've only got 8.5 hours till the end of the work day. Pushing it tight I think.

The last "Making of" doc came out on a Friday of last month, so here's hoping that the new "Making of" doc will be called "A New Villain". It'd be great to see a web doc on Grievous to give him a proper introduction.

 

Do you remember what time it came out(I don't)on EST or PST.

 

how can a robot train to do force or to learn how to use a lightsaber?

MAYBE ITS MAUL!!!!!

LOL

 

Maul is not Grievous.

Grievous slit pupil eye:
[image=http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/publicity/img/20040220_silo.jpg]

Maul round pupil:
[image=http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2003/08/img/insider70_bg.jpg] [image=http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2001/02/img/saboteur_bg.jpg]

If that isn't enough for you:

Is Darth Maul in Episode III in any shape or form - whole or part?

Nope. - PH

 

There are obviously beings born with Force sensitivity that aren't designated as a Jedi or Sith -- Anakin would have been this way if he weren't discovered. This can bring up questions like... what if there was a being that, without the help of the Jedi order, discovered his/her/its powers? What would happen? What would be the result of this, and/or the consequence(s)? I think Grievous is a symbol of that very idea.

 

What if there was a being that, without the help of the Jedi order, discovered his/her/its powers? What would happen?


Not very much would happen. Look at Luke's 20 years on Tatooine.

 

Ah yes, but that doesn't mean the same could be associated with every being in the galaxy with Force powers.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if GG was Syfo-Dyas..or better yet

another one of the Jedi council that was assasinated but brought to life...Yaddle??

just for thought...although very far far...far fetch

 

General Grievous is not and was not a Jedi folks.

Just a badass alien cyborg with a lightsaber collection.

 

There has been throwaway villian for each movie....

TPM - Maul
ATOC - Jango Fett/Count Dooku
EPIII - Grevious ?
ANH - Tarkin and the Motts
ESB - Boba Fett
ROTJ - Jabba the Hutt/ Death Star Commander

Each represents the ideas behind each movie...

Maul- The truly evil character that shows the darkside has reemerged..

Jango Fett/Count Dooku - The duplicity of the soul to be good and bad at the same time...

Grevious - The total control of both machine and man that leads to destruction and betrayal...

Tarkin - The galaxy has eroded with its principals and technology. The Empire controls completely..

Boba Fett - The reemergence of the rebellion soul. Kills all targets in oppoistion to the Empire... Also reflects the father/son dynamic that the pattern repeats with the father/son...

Jabba the Hut - The Rebellion is back and wants to reclaim its territory. But the Empire must be dealt with totally..