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The Bad Batch Omega (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Master star 4

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    Not that it necessarily means anything but would counter his declaration in TBOBF if someone could trace back him working for the empire as well.
     
  2. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I could be totally off base though
     
  3. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Master star 4

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    So an Omega and Grogu team up seems certain now. Obviously, by the end of this season, she is either dead (unlikely) or totally hidden...maybe by Cal and Merrin...with Asajj? No this would be too cool, stop it.

    Or if we want to go full hmmm...surely not: Omega is Rey's mum.
     
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  4. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I have been looking elsewhere on the internet and a lot of people are still convinced she does already have a high M count. But I feel like that doesn’t objectively make sense. What would otherwise be special about her blood that would accept a transfusion of midichlorian rich blood. (By the way that is totally Jedi blood they are using as the transfusion)
     
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  5. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Crossposting this:

    I'm wondering whether Omega is Force sensitive or, rather, is sought as an ideal candidate more due to being a stable clone body. Clone stability is just as important to the success of Sidious's plan as Force sensitivity.
     
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  6. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    They both scratch tally marks representing days on walls. It’s a genetic trait.
     
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  7. Force Nexus

    Force Nexus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yay, Omega can finally use guns! The stupid bow is gone, that was so obviously meant to serve the purpose of "we don't want to show the kid with a gun in our cartoon", even though her having a regular DC-17 pistol would have been far more practical and effective than a cumbersome, inaccurate, slow laser bow. And her new haircut is nice. Anyway, curious to see where Omega's character will go this season. Hopefully, Crosshair will teach her something as much as she is teaching him hope.
     
  8. darth_of_denmark

    darth_of_denmark Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    What makes a person force sensitive? Seems like everyone got x amount of M. I think the question is how much M do you have in your body to be considered a force sensitive.
     
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  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    We have seen Rey’s mom. She doesn’t look like Omega.
     
  10. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Master star 4

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    Well almost certainly not the case but like, it isn't impossible:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    She is very clearly not a clone of Jango Fett. Also Omega would be much older.
     
  12. Bibliora

    Bibliora Jedi Knight star 3

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    And now she has a trained Batcher. I'm 50/50 on the force since gungi detected nothing. Then again, Ezra detected nothing with Sabine. I'm just wondering if some force sensitive individuals need to be tapped in some way.
     
  13. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Rey's Grandma
     
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  14. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I think that’s what Lucasfilm wanted to communicate with the show. That more kids should use guns...

    What a strange thing to be excited about.
     
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  15. Boba Fett.

    Boba Fett. Jedi Knight star 2

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    Rey is a Skywalker, Palpatine and Fett... Which explains her power
     
  16. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Skywalker and Palpatine sure, Fett explains maybe her father.
     
  17. Boba Fett.

    Boba Fett. Jedi Knight star 2

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    Or Fett's lack of blood :p
     
  18. ShayaLothal

    ShayaLothal Jedi Padawan star 1

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    It is a spectrum right?
    And the M-count itself does not make you a powerful force user...there is talent and there is training...and a force sensitive individual can be more attuned with the force than most of the people but that doesn't make them a force user.
    In my opinion this makes sense more tham saying one is or is not... Jedis are higly trained powerful force users but not all force users can become jedi ...cross reference to Ahsoka where Huyang says that Sabine's attitude with the force is so low that she would not have been selected as Padawan back in the time, not because she cannote become a rather capable force user but because she is not powerful and commited enough to learn/develop at a high pace as Padawans are supposed to do?

    That's how I understood the "levels" until here in Star Wars, am I completely mistaken in my interpretation? ( I am using the percentiles in the same way you would use them for IQ in "real life"):

    Every individual has some M-count ( say up to 60th percentile?) and can more or less be attuned or sometimes feel the Force ( as the force resides in all living beings and can be perceived by all in some form?)

    Force sensitives are more attuned than normal with the force and can perceive it more vividly and often than most. They can use this ability to get advantage in their activities ( flying spaceships, fighting with normal weapons, connecting with animals, having a "sixt sense" that warns you when troubles arise, understanding other peopl'es thoughts and being able to manipulate them into doing stuff for them,...), one can not be aware that they are force sensitive and can also vehemently deny that their ability have something to do with the force ( looking at you Solo). They have a higher M-count than average (60-90th percentile?).

    Force users are not only attuned and perceiving but are able to use the force in a proficient way by using a lightsaber, moving objects, manipulating and probing other peole minds. As they are "showing" they are more easy to spot and are mostly aware they have something particular. They have a particularly high M- count (90-99%)

    Jedis are powerful force users selected by th order from those who have the higher M-count ( 98-99th percentiles) and have more attitude and commitement to training and discipline, talent?

    So a spectrum?

    Yeah sorry for the extra long post ooops things got out of hand
    These three episodes got me kinda excited for this stuff!
     
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  19. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Tbh, I don't really get what was so important about looking for a clone with a high "M-count" anyway. Didn't Palpatine at the time already have plenty of Inquisitors at his disposal? Does it mean that before he became desperate with finding a clone with a suitable match, he'd already tested those already under his thumb?

    Not to mention at the time he had one dude with an M-count that would easily rival anyone else's.

     
  20. ShayaLothal

    ShayaLothal Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Hence my interpretation I just posted in the Project Necromancer thread and don't want to cross post here :)
    but basically more likely searching for blood that accepts high M-count blood infusion by matchinf the M-count of the added blood making the clone force sensitive? Hence why Palpatine says it is a project not liked by his peers also...basaically creating artificial force sensitive clones would surely be controversial in the Sith circle ;oP?
    But maybe I am out of scope?
     
  21. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    As the Emperor, who would oppose him on whatever he wanted to do, anyway?
     
  22. darth_of_denmark

    darth_of_denmark Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    I fear that if Omega is fully explained so to speak, that Filoni will tell us that she has space Jesus like levels of M. There are already plenty of people online thinking this is the case.
    I just like the logic of "perhaps she has the rare DNA combination that will retain the subject's M count" (whatever that amount may be) so she could have very low levels of M BUT her DNA won't lose any if used in cloning. Then It's about that rare combination rather than "Is she another Jedi?" but I fear this may be too advanced thinking for a Star Wars show.

    I just like the idea of her not having unusual high amounts of M. Because as someone else already said, Palpy already got access to high levels of M from Vader and the Inquistors and those Jedi they keep perfectly preserved in the Inquisitor Fortress from the ObiWan show.
     
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  23. Fin McCool

    Fin McCool Jedi Master star 4

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    Also not to mention his own.
     
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  24. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Is it possible she's on the Mortis level of M counts we're talking about?
     
  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yea if she had a kid at like 19 then it’s theoretically possible.