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Amph On Earth, Everyone Can Hear You Scream: The Prometheus / Alien Discussion Thread (Romulus, Earth)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Whitey, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO CR Emeritus, SW Louisiana star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Soooooo why not? Iykyk
     
  2. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO CR Emeritus, SW Louisiana star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    1&2 done. Still fun creepy rides. 2 is my favorite. I'm not bothering with a rewatch of 3&4 at present and there is no Predator lvl interest with Xenos to draw me in unexpectedly.

    I've instead thrown on Promethus. Always kinda strange going from 70s future tech to more modern tech when dealing with prequels.

    I'm only an hrs in. This expedition is unintelligent! Breaking rules like morons. What the hell is this black goo and worms? They show a Xeno queen on mural and yet they have no onscreen cues/vibes in this environment so far. Worms did have acid blood tbf but still...wth are they about? Also the Navigators from 1 show up but there is no chest bursting show..just dead bodies. It's weird....

    Is this movie supposed to be good? I have been bored to tears so far and everyone is so ridiculously stupid I just want them all to die.
     
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  3. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 7

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    Good assessment of a dreadful film
     
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  4. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Lol a "dreadful" film that ranks fourth among all Alien films by pretty much any reputable critics site out there; it was actually third until Romulus was released last year.
     
  5. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 7

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    I'm not a film critic and I didn't enjoy it.


    My personal perspective is that it's a dreadful film.

    Glad you liked it though.
     
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  6. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Prometheus does have some good scenes near the end (MedPod scene for the win), it takes long to get there though
     
  7. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    "Fourth best Alien film" isn't exactly high praise, considering that the consensus — for decades at this point — has mostly been that it's a franchise with two good movies, and also more movies. :p
     
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  8. Ahsoka's Tano

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    Like I said, it was the third best after Alien and Aliens; until Romulus came out in 2024.

    Remind me when Aliens came out, again.
     
  9. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Chosen One star 7

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    Also maybe "lol, critics disagree with you" is an awful point in general.
     
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  10. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    What does the release date of Aliens have to do with anything?
     
  11. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    Prometheus had the highest critic's ranking of any Aliens movie since Aliens.
     
  12. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Prometheus is dumb and mean-spirited in a way the other movies weren't. It's easily -- easily -- the best looking film in the series.
    Romulus was pointless fan-service disguised as a film, with about 4-5 minutes of actually inventive enhancements to the universe.
     
  13. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO CR Emeritus, SW Louisiana star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Idk how much longer I can take the stupid of this one...

    This Dr gal is preggers and just fought off 2 people to get to a med bed thingy that aborted a squid from her. Now she's just walking around after being sliced open and all I can think of is where did those people disappear to that she fought off¿¿

    This is a bad movie.
     
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  14. Ahsoka's Tano

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    Aliens 3 was a bad movie. Aliens Resurrection was a bad movie. I haven't cared enough to watch the A v P films.

    Prometheus wasn't anywhere near those level bad, and for me it's an entertaining watch that I could put in my Blu-ray again and again. I don't see the hate that the movie gets outside of the no xenomorphs, no facehuggers crowd. But whatever.
     
  15. JEDI-SOLO

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    Just finished. I don't think I ll ever need to rewatch that unintelligent absurd pile o garbage ever again.

    Onto Covenant! Please be more intelligent this time around!
     
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  16. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    It's a very good-looking film for sure, but you can’t beat the late 70s grittiness of the original IMO. I recently watched Alien on blu-ray for the first time and it's just gorgeous.

    And I actually liked a lot of the imagery of Romulus, even if I really disliked the film.
     
  17. FatBurt

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    errrrr.....
     
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  18. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Definitely debatable but certainly has more Aliens in it!

    They don't go anywhere they go along and guard Peter on his chat with the Engineer and then all get killed
     
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  19. JEDI-SOLO

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    But they just let her go on her marry way after being attacked. No following along or bringing attention to her. It makes no sense. Unintelligent story telling.
     
  20. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Being all hands on deck for Peter Weyland coming out of cryo supersedes the random archeologist running away. I totally buy that
     
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  21. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    I was "ok" with the movie until the last act.

    If felt like this gradual build up of the film took a left turn and rocketed into crazy*** territory in an effort to increase the stakes and action while bumping up the weird level. Some of the choices characters make are bewildering, and the cluelessness of others had you thinking this was a dumb slasher film.

    It's like all the clever ideas...the nugget of story for the film was in the setting and setup...and then they scrambled to come up with an ending.

    Also, there are a lot of characters. Usually these films add tension by isolating the hero(es). Heck, AVP makes that part of it's plot.
    This film is adding important characters more than halfway through the runtime. It felt like bloat for the sake of including more famous actors.

    Stylistically, it felt radically different (probably deliberately so) from other films in the series. It was sterile and stark. The alien planet, while beautiful, was almost "paradise"-like, and layered with the sterile human aesthetic, and even the Engineer ruins which were mostly intact and functional (besides leaking black goo...PLOT DETECTED, PLOT DETECTED!)...all together made the whole thing feel unreal, which removes a sense of stakes.

    It was cold and heartless and tried to be clever, but ended up feeling almost snobbish.

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    All said, I would watch Prometheus again before watching Covenant again. That one felt like Ridley trying to redux the Prometheus premise, just with the Xenos everyone was clamoring for. It was the worst of both worlds.
     
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  22. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    [​IMG]

    Not to mention that for whatever the reason, he killed off easily the best female character in the franchise since Weaver.
     
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  23. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I have zero problems with Xenos in Covenant, it adds layers to thier creation and David's arc (and can be handwaved away if you don't like it which is what it looks like Alien Earth is doing). Daniels is cool, last five minutes are freaking amazing.

    What happened with Shaw is a bummer but this series does do horrible things to likable characters
     
  24. Ahsoka's Tano

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    Yeah right. They pulled a Resurrection in a sci-fi franchise way before Lucas and Dave Filoni made it practically an annual event.
     
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  25. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I wouldn't say Ripley 8's Resurrection is particularly heartfelt or even good (especially when you see all the other clones). Hero OG Ripley had a sacrifice and Ripley 8 and those Xenos and the Newborn are basically freak accidents.

    The Offspring in Romulus is a similar thing that brings back the Prometheus Pathogen but done much more effectively and shows don't do the biological weapon thing
     
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