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Amph One Thread To Rule Them All: The Rings of Power, The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings & Middle-earth films

Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    But like guys…

    out of all the Tom Bombadil theories…

    … out of ALL the many, many, many, many Tom Bombadil theories…

    … Tom being MORGOTH / MELKOR, the original dark lord, the root of all evil, the Satan of Middle-earth… NEVER was even guessed at in all the thousands of theories over the decades. Oh and he’s married to Ungoliant, who’s Goldberry?

    Like… what

    I know Tom says he’s “eldest of all things” and older than Middle-earth, but that just seems like he’s a Maia who became a forest spirit. That all the Maiar are the eldest. He’s said to be powerful enough to hold off Sauron until he has already conquered all the rest of the world, but that could just be him being the most powerful of the Maiar who are not in Valinor.

    But Tom Bombadil is Melkor… the jolly singing dancing guy with yellow boots and a feather in his cap… who famously wasn’t even tempted in the least by the One Ring and was said he might have just forget he had it and lose it if it was sent to him as discussed as an option by the Council of Elrond in the books… that guy… Tom freaking Bombadil, is Melkor and the root of all evil.

    Did the Valar destroy his mind and brainwash him to the point of insanity to give him a fate worse than death or something?



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  2. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    i dig it
     
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  3. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Nah. Not while Morgoth's Ring is intact.
     
  4. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    I’m pretty open minded when it comes to adaptations doing new things, but this is a dumb change / revelation. The whole “he’s Eru Iluvatar” is far, far better than this.
     
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  5. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    Tomelkor
     
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  6. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Ungoldberry
     
  7. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    It sounds so stupid now i want to see it, lol :p
     
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  8. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Chosen One star 7

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    Well, that's one way of pretty much guaranteeing no one will ever take your show seriously... :p As if Series 1 was not enough... [face_laugh]
     
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  9. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I think it’s total nonsense, as the showrunners noted that S1 might be a hard pill for some fans to swallow because it’s a setup season where they felt they needed to invent a number of things, and that S2 would hew much closer to stories and lore fans know, and thus be far less controversial in that sense. This is the opposite. I don’t buy it.
     
  10. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Chosen One star 7

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    ... because the showrunners have proved themselves to be trustworthy and reliable people. Right.
     
  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I didn’t note any lack of honesty in the showrunners. And the inventions in S1 are nowhere near the magnitude of what’s being described here. A little contested myth describing the origin of mithril is nothing compared to giving us a full episode with Dark Lord Bombadil and his golden spider bride.
     
  12. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Nothing they did in season 1 was out of there.
     
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  13. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I don’t know, I think it sounds brilliant. Truly capturing the spirit of Tolkien!


    Seriously though, this:
    ...gives it away.
    As there has never been a fan theory describing this anywhere, at least as far as I can tell, this was clearly put in there to rile up the fans.
    It's fake. Someone's having a laugh.

    If I'm wrong, I'll eat this post.
     
  14. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    What if its the reverse?
     
  15. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Goldberry becomes a giant spider as a punishment..?
     
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  16. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    No Tom becomes does.:p
     
  17. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Wat
     
  18. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    If Tom was the the Spider.
     
  19. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    what if Tom Bombadil is all of the spiders
     
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  20. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    He is Ungoliant confirmed.
     
  21. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I knew I didn't like him.
     
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  22. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, the incessant singing would certainly be worse.
     
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  23. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Hater of Mace Windu star 7

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    [face_laugh]
     
  24. mnjedi

    mnjedi JCC Arena Game Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    It checks out, if Tom is actually a bunch of spiders in a trenchcoat it explains why the ring didn’t affect “him”. None of the spiders were actually wearing the ring, it was just a ring on the outside of an inanimate person costume so it didn’t do anything.

    Clearly exactly as Tolkien intended when he wrote it.
     
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  25. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I am not nearly as well-versed in the lore as some of you, but I interpret Tom to be the friends we made along the way.