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Andor Orson Krennic

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Feb 25, 2025.

  1. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Plus, and I do like this, Krennic is the type of petty, insecure nerd of fascist that his entire story this episode can be summed up as "is an obnoxious party guest, the end."

    He's arguably the Big Bad of the season, but they're reinforcing his flaws and eccentricities here because he's still more "the Boss from Office Space But In The Death Star" than a military man.
     
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  2. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Orson Krennic and Luthen Rael are the same character. Even Saw Gerrera
     
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  3. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Eh, got to disagree; all three are radically different, but especially Krennic compared to Saw and Luthen.

    Saw and Luthen are 100% always "on" with The Cause, and are highly, even fanatically pragmatic and paranoid, and both don't expect to enjoy restoring the Republic at all because they expect to be dead and even think of themselves as unworthy of it; the biggest difference is that Saw is an incredibly emotional, self-proclaimed madman and romantic in a philosophical sense, while Luthen is a ruthlessly logical and emotionally restrained man who has a very dark kind of "enlightenment" approach.

    Krennic, in contrast to both, is mercurial and impulsive, and willing and able to fritter away time and energy entertaining himself simply for the joy of it, because he can rely on the massive resources and workforce of the Empire. The result is that he's a little bit more careless, and eccentricities are more obviously pointless.

    All three men are dangerous while still being capable of making mistakes... but, as an example, Luthen is at the party and hobnobbing with the rich as part of his job, while Krennic is there just for fun, and Saw's idea of fun is breathing in painful gas fumes he's going to use against the Empire.
     
  4. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Have I mentioned how much I love Mendelsohn's performance. Krennic is like the perfect encapsulation of the slimiest Imperials while also actually being highly competent. While I didn't think 6 was a perfect episode his banter with Mon was top tier.
     
  5. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    And yet I think the most interesting thing about his competence is how sort of over-specialized and eventually overwhelmed it is.

    Especially with regards to his military and intelligence responsibilities; they're probably the things he's most proud of, and play the biggest part of the uniform-and-cape-obsesses image he likes to project... but they're also where his largest weaknesses appear by the time Rogue One role around.

    Mendelsohn does a great job portraying a guy who clearly has some potential in military affairs - Krennic is energetic, quick to react, a surprisingly excellent shot, more than a little valorous when physically threatened, and skilled enough to have Galen Erso tracked down when he runs away - but he's also exactly as unobservant and not-paranoid as a comfortable middle manager in an office building would be - noticing nothing during the party, losing track of his cargo pilot, not suspecting and being shocked that Tarkin will simply seize control of the Death Star when its finished, and needlessly risking himself as a commander on squad-level combat scenarios rather than coordinating Scarif's response to the Rebel attack.
     
  6. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    "Your overconfidence is your weakness" really applies to the Empire, Krennic, Palpatine and Tatkin.
     
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  7. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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  8. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh yeah. Him too, lol.
     
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  9. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    I think this is the week that that we get confirmation that Orson was getting calls from Mork.
     
  10. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    [​IMG]

    Provided by man with funny cape.
     
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  11. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The first scene with Krennic and Tarkin in Rogue One hits SO much harder now. There's so much more context to the "security breaches"... and if you watch that scene shortly after the last 3 arc of Andor it's really neat to see Krennic on two different sides of a power imbalance.

    He also clearly irritated and even seems a little jumpy/nervous - which now makes complete sense. It's really brilliant how well they fit the show together with the movie.
     
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  12. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Chosen One star 5

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    It's surprising that Krennic was featured quite prominently in the marketing for season 2, yet only appeared in four episodes with probably less than 15 minutes of screen time total.

    In any case, his reputation has improved thanks to his role in this series. For me he has now gone from overrated to merely rated.
     
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  13. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    The Krennic cameos are few. But he's exactly where he needs to be in terms of time and performance. Also, we did get a sense that Krennic was another of the Empire's useful psychopaths who got a job done before being discarded, if you will. TA1994 compared his sparing appearances to those of Tarkin and Vader in R1. And I concur. Mendelssohn is disturbing and broodingly casual in a way. R1 was PG13, and accordingly, we only got to see that side of him when he was pointing weapons at the Ersos. But in this, he's doing that with his words and his body language, and frankly, he's pretty terrifying. He respected Leo, but Dedra? I don't like Dedra, but I felt bad for her in that one scene due to how he was so domineering. Mon opted to handle him a different way. Mon herself is not a physical fighter, but you can see how she's meant to be an overall rebel leader. She's got that soul type like Leia, Padme, and Ahsoka, if you will. Krennic as the same type of soul type as Tarkin. The difference is that Krennic chose to be wholly devoted to the Empire, whereas in the old EU, Tarkin's son's death was orchestrated by Sidious and Vader. So, he became apart of the barbarity. Krennic, to me, comes off like one of the few working class guys who liked the Empire and joined. He sees himself as raising through the ranks.

    Ironically, he winds up like Dedra fairly soon in R1, but that's not something we need discuss here much. Our own Ben is actually fairly silly in real life interviews, much like Diego Luna.
     
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  14. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    IMO, Mendelsohn not toning down his accent in Andor, unlike RO, suits Krennic more, he sounds less pompous, but more sinister.
     
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  15. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Krennic is pretty much the same in Andor as he is in Rogue One. It’s just that in the latter, he’s often in the position of subordinate, and only rarely in a position to truly abuse his power. Except for at the beginning and on Eadu.
    Kinda like Darth Vader in the ANH.
    I don’t want him to push his index finger down onto my head, so I’m going to say he's the best Star Wars villain yet.
     
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