Senate Pandemics in the Age of Globalization: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion: See OP Warning

I studied for my nursing degree in Canterbury.

 

At least he wore his mask correctly

 

What? The CDC is just now saying COVID is spread through the air?? Didn't we know this like six months ago? Did I miss somethign?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/21/cdc-covid-aerosols-airborne-guidelines/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/21/cdc-coronavirus-spread-airborne-419363

How are facts I thought were commonly known and accepted just now made official?

 

There's a difference between airborne over 6 feet / 2m and airborne over greater distance. The latter, if proven, allows politicians to be anti social distancing, they can argue it's pointless because c19 can no longer be contained that way.

V-03 can probably explain better what I'm getting at.

 

we already know it's airborne, that's why we're wearing masks

 

It's amazing how these facts can be used either way. I see what you mean. My first though was this would mean politicians need to be more pro social distancing and mask wearing. Not that resistance to COVID is futile so just return to normal and best of luck.

 

Maybe it's different in the US, but there's been no requirement to wear masks outside in the UK as c19 has not been deemed to be airborne to that degree. Instead, it's to wear indoors in public spaces as people are still the main transmitters of it.

I'd like to think it's clear as to which side of the line I'm on, but it opens all kinds of doors which is why it's been so scrutinised in the medical community.

If c19 is as airborne as flu then that suggests there should be more cases, as it's more contagious. Maybe there are, testing is a mess in both the US and UK.

 

Airborne basically means smaller droplets that spread over longer distances can spread the virus. I’ve been operating under that assumption since March. This is nothing new, but it does make Trump’s anti-mask crusade all the more dangerous.

With winter approaching in the Northern hemisphere, universal mask-wearing becomes more important, not less. We’ll likely see a patchwork approach to it, however, with areas that ignore science suffering disproportionally higher numbers of illness and death than those that follow the facts.

 

I think testing in the UK will be a mess until there's a test that doesn't have to be processed in a lab. That's part of the backlog here.

 

That is the backlog everywhere which is why antigen testing has to become the norm in order for us to turn the corner. Again all indicators are that will come on in the spring.

Dr. Slaoui believes will have an answer if the current vaccine candidates work somewhere between October and January:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news...21-20-intl/h_887792c6c1241789ae260999587308df

It could be soon as January that they start emergency vaccines to military/frontline workers. Doubt that will happen but even if it's sometime in the Q1 that the mass vaccinations of the military/frontline workers/elderly are going on, that would be incredible and obviously really begin our turnaround from this hellish nightmare.

 

Manager just walked by my desk and asked if I noticed the water fountain in the hallway is making a funny sound.

Nope, I didn't use the public water fountain. There's a pandemic. Guess no one told him.

 

Something's stopping him reporting the issue?

 

I use our water fountains but it's one where you can refill your cup with as apparently those are safe to use. Then again who knows what safe is and what isn't. Our afternoon is filled with zoom meetings about how hybrid will work IF we get to that point and were all like, "Ummmmmm we are looking at the metrics. There is no way that is happening until perhaps when we are getting ready to celebrate St. Patty's Day". That be really ironic since that would be bascially one year since we shutdown and went to e-learning/remote learning.

 

I wear a mask outside when there are people around. Walking on city streets I wear a mask. Any interaction with another person outside, including getting takeout from a drive through it's mask up. If I'm on a hike in the woods or on a bike trail I don't wear a mask - even if I occasionally pass someone. This hasn't happened, but if the trail became so crowded I couldn't pass people - I'd put a mask on.

Maybe I'm completely wrong but my understanding was being outside reduced the odds of catching COVID. Is this correct?

The volume of air outside and movement of air means COVID particles disperse and spread out making it less likely to saturate the air in concentrations high enough to easily spread. Sun light rapidly damages the COVID virus and kills it, also making it less likely to spread outside.

So being outside in addition to wearing masks and social distancing make outdoor spread of COVID less likely than inside - but it still doesn't stop it. And going to an outdoor sporting event in a full stadium could be a major spreading event because of the number of people there closely together regardless of being outside.

 

Hey, I'm far from an expert on this!

My view is do what reassures and keeps you safe. I'm in a town and my area's being cautious, I rarely see anyone on a 5-min walk to the shops, but for those of my team who are city-based it's very different.

 

That’s what I do. If I am walking and can maintain at least 10 feet between people I won’t have a mask on. Which is most of the time. Since I usually walk in the woods

 

Now the CDC has removed the updated wording on the airborne spread of COVID-19. It's back to what it was before Friday.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...aws-guidance-on-aerosol-spread-of-coronavirus

Is anyone buying this was a mixup during a website update? Is this how frustrated CDC doctors and scientists release suppressed information? Are we getting a glimpse into the behind scenes battle going on between doctors and politicians?

 

We sure are. It’s a major issue for us at the hospital. We’re basically on our own when it comes to resource planning for the fall and winter. It has all the makings of a huge disaster.

 

Which means the politicians get to go "it wasn't me, it was those elitist doctors".

Plus, the media, who always know the exact, correct answer in hindsight.

 

It also means the lives of Americans are being sacrificed as politicians hide the truth about COVID in fear it will hurt their approval rating and hopes for reeelection.

 

Luckily it's not some deep sinister plot. It's transparently sinister, on the surface. Trump's complaining that CDC guidance makes his rallies look bad. If the virus is airborne, then his maskless campaign rallies look criminally negligent. Wanton disregard for human life vs "who knew the virus could transmit that way? No one told us!"

 

More concern of Trump forcing a bogus or untested COVID-19 vaccine to approval before the election.

https://news.yahoo.com/signs-october-vaccine-surprise-alarm-175348593.html

Tighten your masks. The next six weeks are going to get weird.

 

The anti-science rhetoric is coming from inside the house!

https://gizmodo.com/pro-trump-nih-goon-to-retire-after-being-outed-as-proli-1845134468