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Senate Pandemics in the Age of Globalization: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion: See OP Warning

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Punk , Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    My region has seen a sharp increase the last two weeks. At the same time so few people are living here, comparatively, that a few clusters really affect the total numbers. Our main increase right now is in one town, where they have traced the outbreak to youth ice hockey teams. It's apparent that coaches and leaders can't make the players respect social distancing in the locker rooms and showers. Personally I think they should close the locker rooms and have the kids change and shower at home. Our positivity rate is 1,2% and at least we only have one person in ICU (apparently an acquaintance of a co-worker, who's in pretty bad shape they have tried to wake him up but had to put him back on a ventilator). We need to stem the increase now though in order to avoid a second wave.
     
  2. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yep I expect Wave two of Corona to be in full force in two weeks
     
  3. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Missouri...
    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Missouri Republican Gov. Mike Parson, opponent of mandatory masks, tests positive for COVID-19.
     
  4. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    For those playing at home, Indiana currently is averaging 114.5 cases per million per day, which is less than a 30% drop from their peak, and is higher than it was for any day prior to around July 22. Their test positivity is between 6 and 9% over the last week (currently just shy of 9%), which is about double the national test positivity.
     
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  5. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    The Governor of MO has COVID. He refused to do a mask order or lockdown statewide at any point.
     
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  6. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    But will he refuse to wear a ventilator should he be unfortunate enough to need one?
     
  7. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    He is asymptomatic.
     
  8. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    Oh, so will have another ... the virus isn't as bad as everyone says, I beat it easily. This is all a media hoax ... type.
     
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  9. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    A couple of things I've posted elsewhere:

    There are some people in positions of power who don’t take issues seriously until there is a significant personal impact. Think of anti-LGBTQ legislators who find out that a close family member is LGBTQ, for example. I derive no pleasure from the knowledge that the Governor and his wife have come down with a disease they’ve not taken seriously.

    So here’s the paradox. Perhaps being severely impacted by this disease will be what finally gets the Governor to take matters seriously, assuming that the disease doesn't kill him. On the other hand, as...y’know...a decent human being...I hope they have a speedy recovery. However, if he and his do not suffer and/or die, he’s probably even less likely to treat this disease seriously.
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    Will it take a Prominent White Person dying of COVID before some folks take it seriously? I’m legit trying to recall whether or not a Prominent White Person has died of COVID. If there is a Prominent White Person who has died and I’m not recalling, I’ll own that. With over 200,000 dead, there are lots of white people who died but were not “prominent;” there was Rand Paul, who is a Prominent White Person who didn't die; and there was Herman Cain, who was ”prominent,” but not white. What will it take?
     
  10. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    I mean, a Trump rally killed Herman Cain and he's still having rallies. I suspect nothing helps the skeptics.
     
  11. Fifi Kenobi

    Fifi Kenobi Jedi Master star 4

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    There was Boris Johnson but he's British. I'm also suspicious that they clam they're asymptomatic. I'm not sure these knuckleheads would admit to being a long hauler or having felt like crap.
     
  12. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Funny, I read this as Cain having rallies! Back from the dead no less.
     
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  13. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Trump could die of it and some people in this country will still not take it seriously. Thanks to the internet this is 1918 all over again but on steroids. Back then they had the same thing. People refusing to wear masks (they used to have anti mask rallies including where they would have a massive bonfire and burn them), not wear them properly (they would cut holes in them so they could smoke) and the anti-vaccination movement has been around since the mid-1800's therefore it was alive and well during the pandemic of 1918. Here is anti smallpox vaccination cartoon of the early 20th century:

    [​IMG]

    The difference IMHO is though many people of that time period simply did not know any better. Today? We obviously do but idiots will refuse to listen. Again Trump could die of COVID-19 and the same people who are not taken it seriously still won't.
     
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  14. Juliet316

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    And Trump's holding a rally here in Virginia on Friday. *headdesk* If I were Northam, this would be the weekend to declare that he has to temporarily tighten restrictions in the state.

    Well, at least Boris can't claim he was asymptomatic.
     
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  15. Yodaminch

    Yodaminch Chosen One star 6

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    If Ivanka came down with a symptomatic case of COVID-19, Trump would mobilize things faster than we could blink.

    But that's about the only thing that would move him.

    As for a white person- people started paying attention when Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson got it.

    As to your question if someone white and famous has died of COVID-19, yes. Nick Cordero would count. But there are others. The problem is none have been blockbuster box office stars.
     
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  16. Lowbacca_1977

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    I think the only one that'd have an impact would be Trump, and that's because it'd directly remove Trump. Anything short of that, I don't think it will.

    I'd say there's absolutely been people that I'd say are more prominent than the governor of Missouri that have died from it if that's not limited to elected officials. Playwright Terrance McNally, Fountains of Wayne singer Adam Schlesinger, and Roy Horn of Siegfried & Roy were all, I'd say, people quite a lot more people are familiar with than the governor of Missouri. And there's probably a few others that that people into other things would see as prominent names, there's been a couple other people that I saw big bursts of posts on FB about their deaths from people.

    Of course, on a somewhat smaller scale, if just knowing someone mattered, then you'd think it would've mattered that 4 current (or current when they died) Republican state legislators have died. They've got to as a party notice they're having to start getting replacement legislators because they're dying (South Dakota, Vermont, and 2 in Louisiana). A co-founder of Turning Points USA also died, which I'd say is more politically prominent than prominent with the public.

    But of course, we know what happens when someone Trump knows dies from this. Stanley Chera was someone that Trump apparently knew enough to exchange personal phone calls with. He died April 11, and Trump said the following in May:
    "I’ve lost three friends. One, a very good friend, a very successful man, New York guy, employed a lot of people that were all crying over his death. Stanley Chera. He went to the hospital, he calls me up. He goes, “I tested positive.” I said, “Well, what are you going to do?” He said, “I’m going to the hospital. I’ll call you tomorrow.” He didn't call. I call the hospital, he's in a coma. Now, I know a lot of people that had the flu, they were never in a coma."

    Looking at everything that Trump's done since May, it doesn't seem to have had any effect on him. If the president can talk about having someone they call a friend go from "I'm heading to the hospital" to in a coma overnight and not really change how he's acting, I think it's a fairly strong indicator that they don't really care who dies.
     
  17. PCCViking

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    If I were the Virginia AG, I'd file charges of reckless endangerment against Trump if he goes through with the rally. And the next time he steps foot into Virginia, he gets arrested. Northam should also warn the Secret Service not to interfere or they'll be arrested for obstruction of justice.
     
  18. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    You could theoretically charged that to Trump too in Oklahoma for the Tulsa Rally as hundreds got COVID-19 thanks to it and Herman Cain died. But that will never happened since it's well Oklahoma. Again I do think Trump once he leaves office will spend the rest of his life (and whatever is left of his fortune) in court/staying out of jail but will regrettably never serve time even though I think it's one of the greatest lessons we could ever gives to our children. NOBODY is above the law of the land, not even a president.
     
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  19. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  20. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So more than two months after “recovering” from COVID-19 I’m still experiencing significant breathing problems. I’ve had to use a CPAP at night. I use to run every morning but now I’m out of breath after walking more than a block. Even walking up stairs is a chore. I don’t know if this is permanent. I certainly hope not. But to all those who think wearing a mask is an inconvenience they have no ******* clue. I’m seeing more and more people in public spaces without a mask because it’s no longer a requirement here and it pisses me off.
     
  21. LAJ_FETT

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    I've seen stories in the UK press about people having similar experiences. Have you spoken to a doctor about it?
     
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  22. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah. I have regular checkups still. I’ve even been tested again to see if I may have gotten it a second time. Came back negative thankfully.
     
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  23. LAJ_FETT

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    Do you have other health issues that might be a factor? Or are you fairly healthy otherwise?
     
  24. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No I’m a pretty healthy guy. Well at least I was. Now I feel like I’ve been a lifelong smoker or something.
     
  25. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    [​IMG]

    As far as Gov. Parsons, maybe his wife dying or either/both of them becoming seriously ill would cause him to re-consider countermeasures in Missouri (I'm a MO resident). But that would mean that I wish suffering and death upon them, which I don't.
     
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