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Paul W.S. Anderson is making Aliens vs. Predator?!?!? ARGHHH!!!!

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by DARTH_ABBADON, Jun 18, 2003.

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  1. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I say bring Milla in as the obligatory action babe who takes on the aliens/predators. But then it absolutely can't be PG-13, otherwise how will Milla do her obligatory nude scene?
     
  2. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If it's PG-13, she won't! [face_shocked]

    :_| :_|
     
  3. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    Paul-I-think-I'm-God's-gift-to-film-so-I-have-pretentious-middle-intials-Anderson

    It is movie courtesy to not steal others names. Samuel L Jackson, Michael J Fox, for example.



    (someone before already established that Anderson was making MK and RE more for the fans, not the masses)

    Which is good. You want the fans happy first, not to sell out.



    I liked Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil, Soldier wasnt awful, Event Horizon was one of the worst films ever. Could go any way.




    And I have no faith in Cameron. Three words. His. Spiderman. Script.


    :)
     
  4. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Meh, I liked Event Horizon. Definately not a great film, but it was entertaining none the less, and it was a great visual film in certain scenes.
     
  5. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Event Horizon was creepy and had great special effects. If you judge a sci fi movie based solely on what happens to the characters when they get exposed to the vacuum of space, then it's an absolute classic, ranking up there with 2001.

    And that, friends is the secret to enjoying Anderson's films: carefully limiting the criteria on which you judge them.

    So, for example, Resident Evil gets high ratings for "best use of zombie dogs on film."
     
  6. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    LOL^

    I liked Resident Evil well enough, and Mortal Kombat.

    The secret to succeeding with AvP, IMO, is to have characters that you can remember. Remember the essential cast of Aliens? Hicks, Hudson, Vasquez, Gorman, Ripley, Newt, and Burke. Everyone one of these characters is quite memorable, 17 years after the film first appeared in theatres. That was Alien 3 and Alien: resurrection's problem: The characters either all looked alike or didn't have distinct personalities.

    Got this from an AvP website:

    AvP Movie A Reality? - [3:31 by Eldritch]
    As of the latest news on the grapevine, 20th Century Fox have given Paul Anderson (Resident Evil, Event Horizon) the green light to begin shooting Aliens versus Predator this October in Prague. What's the story? Well, it is set on modern day, in Antarctica, where a couple of people are going to lure a Predator with Alien Eggs as bait. They want to capture it and study it.

    OK, this movie sounds lame already.


     
  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> Paul W.S. Anderson is engaged to Milla Jovovich<<

    I think you're thinking of the over-rated director Luc Besson (though the Professional was good, he also did the mediocre The Messenger and crappy Fifth Element-if you want an example of a great concept gone wrong ::shudder:).

    Anyone who let's Chris Tucker near a sci-fi film should be shot on sight.
     
  8. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    I think you're thinking of the over-rated director Luc Besson (though the Professional was good, he also did the mediocre The Messenger and crappy Fifth Element-if you want an example of a great concept gone wrong ::shudder:).

    No, she left Besson for Anderson...

    EDIT: And I agree -- The Fifth Element was more style than substance, but I liked it better than RE (or Event Horizon or Soldier) because it's style over substance was better than the others' style over their substance... ;)
     
  9. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes, Anderson will be Milla's second director/husband. She's exactly the kind of actress who needs to be sleeping with the director to get work. I predict her role as the Ripley replacement in Alien v. Predator will be her most memorable part.
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Really? I didn't know that, my apologies.

    >> And... Resident Evil. A ZOMBIE flick without GORE! WTH?!?<<

    Well, I wasn't familar with the games when I saw the film, and I'm not up on my zombie-flick genre...I saw the film more as a B-movie Aliens-wannabe that just happened to have zombies in it. And when taken like that, I think it did the job quite nicely. Good score too. Also, it had a ballsy ending (had the movie been a studio production, there's no chance in hell that ending would have been used) that sets up some great potential for the sequel.

    >>From what I understood, the only semblance of the original source material was The Hive.<<

    From what I've read, there were only a couple shared elements between the game and movie because the movie was actually a prequel to the original game. The sequel will have more familar elements from the game.

    >>Zombie dogs? Cool idea, awful execution.<<

    Actually, I thought the Zombie dogs were great- they did them the right way and didn't use any CGI, just threw the makeup on real dogs.

    However, that "licker" creature, I'll admit, was pretty shoddy CGI. But beyond that, I really didn't have any problems with the film (except perhaps that they killed the team leader way too early in the film-he was a cool character).


    EDIT- Oh, I'll agree that Fifth Element's style was superior to RE, though not to Event Horizon's. However, I do find RE's substance to be superior to FE's.
     
  11. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

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    AvP Movie A Reality? - [3:31 by Eldritch]
    As of the latest news on the grapevine, 20th Century Fox have given Paul Anderson (Resident Evil, Event Horizon) the green light to begin shooting Aliens versus Predator this October in Prague. What's the story? Well, it is set on modern day, in Antarctica, where a couple of people are going to lure a Predator with Alien Eggs as bait. They want to capture it and study it.


    [face_plain]

    I didn't have a problem with Paul W.S. Anderson directing it, but I do have a problem with the plot.

    What ever happened to those great rumors that there would be a group of humans on some distant planet far out in space where they are caught in the middle of the Predators and Aliens attacking one another? I wanted to see that. That plot would have been great and original if executed right. Now we get this?

    I'm dissapointed already.
     
  12. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    What ever happened to those great rumors that there would be a group of humans on some distant planet far out in space where they are caught in the middle of the Predators and Aliens being against one another? I wanted to see that.

    Oh, you mean like the original BRILLIANT four-part mini-series by Dark Horse Comics?

    [face_plain]
     
  13. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sorry, I don't read Dark Horse Comics 8-}

    I only speak of what I heard. And that's what I wanted to see ;)

     
  14. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    I liked the plot in one of the books, it had a human colony, a "good" Predator and everything.
     
  15. DarthBoba

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    Yeah, I remember that one..can't remember the full title, but it was quite good.

    Es[ecially when the "good" Predator takes on a Queen by himself at the end.
     
  16. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE -- right. What you heard was the original plotline from the comic series which, pretty much everyone has acknowledged of being one of the best crossover storylines ever penned...

    Reaper is right... it really did have everything.

    Predator training.
    Alien infestation.
    Corporate greed and malfeasance.
    Predator vs. Predator.
    Predator vs. Aliens.
    Aliens vs. Humans.
    Humans + Predators vs. Aliens.

    Humans and Predators at Tanagra.
    Humans and Predators on the ocean.

    ;)

    EDIT: //sigh

    Yeah, I remember that one..can't remember the full title, but it was quite good.

    It was called, surprisingly, "Aliens vs. Predator #1 - #4"

    //sigh
     
  17. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    The book was called PREY
     
  18. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    And, as RF and I have just determined, the book was a novelization (or novelisation in his language) of the comic series from 1989... ;)
     
  19. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, there you go. "Aliens v. Predators" is no cheesy gimmick for mating two incompatible movie franchises - it's a literary genre steeped in tradition.
     
  20. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Well, there you go. "Aliens v. Predators" is no cheesy gimmick for mating two incompatible movie franchises - it's a literary genre steeped in tradition.

    Except that they're throwing out the tradition... [face_plain]
     
  21. Qonas

    Qonas Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hey, now, there's nothing in that newsbit that rules out a "good" Predator.
     
  22. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Hey, now, there's nothing in that newsbit that rules out a "good" Predator.

    Oh?
    This new film will not involve any of the human characters from the films? previous efforts, instead using entirely new individuals. As reported by several news sources, the story looks to involve human scientists going on an expedition to Antarctica to lure Predator hunters, using Alien eggs as bait. Of course, these plans quickly goes awry and the humans find themselves in the crossfire between two warring alien species.


    That doesn't sound like their using any of the previously well-done source material for the Aliens vs. Predator series. Already sounds bad to me.

    Plus, Anderson writing it?

    I'm not hopeful. I'll go see it. I'll be wishing it's good. I'm just not hopeful it will be...
     
  23. Ray_Nicolet

    Ray_Nicolet Jedi Youngling star 1

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    hmmm lets see. Do i want a terrific director like Ridley Scott directing my movie or an idiot who couldnt direct a decent movie to save is life?


    I guess I'll go with the idiot since he'll be cheaper! Cheaper movie = more profits! Yeah! Us studio people are sooooo smart!
     
  24. DARTH_ABBADON

    DARTH_ABBADON Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Which is good. You want the fans happy first, not to sell out.


    Not for the studios. Which puzzled me even more.

    I didn't mind the whole zombie dog thing, but c'mon, karate kicking a dog in slow motion. Jesus I was so close to just laughing my ass of in the theatre.

    This AvP comic sounds pretty good, don't suppose it's still available in like Graphic Novel form?

    EDIT: LOL @ Ray_Nicolet

    (Cool handle, btw, I take it you're an Elmore Leonard fan? Or maybe just a Micheal Keaton fan :p)
     
  25. Antilles2001

    Antilles2001 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Another two reasons why Alien 3 sucked: 1) Killed off Hicks, and 2) No weapons.
     
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