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ST Plot Holes in The Rise of Skywalker

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  1. Ender_and_Bean

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    Do we know what ship Ben arrived in yet?
     
  2. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    they showed a regular TIE fighter next to Reys x wing.
     
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  3. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    How did Han grow his beard after he died?
     
  4. Ginkasa

    Ginkasa Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    1. Fair enough.
    2. Reading your other posts I misunderstood which moment you were talking about. I thought you were saying she was in the right spot to find the dagger.
     
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  5. Iron_lord

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    According to the VD, you only need the wayfinder to establish the route. Once you've done so, you can copy the route into a standard navicomputer and make your way there without it.

    As such, Ben only needed it to go there at the start of the movie.
     
  6. zackm

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    Yeah, a standard issue TIE that he presumably found inside the Death Star.
     
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  7. Ender_and_Bean

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    There is a sizable jump in time to consider. Rey literally arrived and landed on Ahch-To and blew up her Tie. Hours could have passed, giving him access to a remaining Tie from the DS2 itself.
     
  8. christophero30

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    why did Han and Luke look like they just woke up? No barbers in the afterlife I suppose.
     
  9. Trooper100471

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    Still trying work that one out. Maybe he used Rey's water sciff to return to shore and found transport? But what about the Wayfinder? Could he follow the same course he used in the opening scene.

    It also depends on how he got to DS2 in the first place? Did he fly his Tie all the way or did he drop down from a Star Destroyer in the planet's orbit? If so he could have used a comm to get a ship to rescue him
     
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  10. Iron_lord

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    We know that SW ships seem to be very, very water resistant now (Luke's X-wing?) - so the only issue becomes the hyperdrive itself. I could see ROTJ-era Palpatine having prototype hyperdrive-equipped fighters.
     
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  11. Lulu Mars

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    He used the power of Ben's wish for him to appear scruffier in his memory.
     
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  12. christophero30

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    how was Luke's x wing still working after a decade underwater?
     
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  13. Trooper100471

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    He bought it with an anti-rust warranty
     
  14. Ender_and_Bean

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    He was on his own afterward. Sidious sensed his return to the light and was already communicating with FO leadership to make clear that he was now in charge and Pryde being the devoted Emperor follower he was seemed happy to have such a respected and powerful boss whom he admired back in charge. No chance he let’s Kylo back on board.

    The Knights of Ren had also turned on him at that point so I’m sure Pryde informed them that Kylo Ren had betrayed the dark side and would soon come for the girl. They’d all been seeing him obsess over Rey for the better part of a year.
     
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  15. Tan-Wessel

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    Why did Palpatine orchestrate the Imperial Remnants to escape to the Unknown Regions to organize and secretly form the First Order with a planet-sized Death Star...and then secretly orchestrate away from the First Order inside the Unknown Regions to form a Sith Fleet with every ship being a mini-Death Star?
     
  16. zackm

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    That's an easy one...Advanced materials and tech that aren't harmed by water. The swamp on Dagobah didn't hurt it.
     
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  17. Trooper100471

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    I think he said cool?
    Amazing. I need to watch this film again!!
     
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  18. Christopher Blair

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    Yeah those are one of the leaps in logic just like the Jedi Hunter ship on the desert Planet still working but it didn't bother me. one of the many complaints for The Last Jedi was why didn't Luke raise his X-Wing and fly it to crait. At least with their X-Wing you can always go to the tried-and-true explanation, she was there for a while and fixed it since we never really know how much time passes in any of these movies. although I do feel like the Mandalorian is getting better at time.
     
  19. ForceGhostPrincessLeia

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    Forget underwater...they actually SHOW the hut door constructed out of a part of the x-wing's exterior. Right before Luke lifts that very ship.
     
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  20. Lulu Mars

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    Because she hadn't learned the path to immortality.
    Ben hadn't either, but it appears that Leia brought him with her into the afterlife.
     
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  21. zackm

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    This is a good one, but I think that's only canonical according to the TLJ Visual Dictionary, so it's easy enough to retcon and say the door is some other scrap, and not from that X-wing specifically.
     
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  22. Lulu Mars

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    ...or that Rey put it back :)
     
  23. Miles Lodson

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    So for me the TIE having hyperdrive may be a bigger plot hole than him finding the TIE itself.

    Should have just given him a Lambda-class shuttle.
     
  24. Ender_and_Bean

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    I buy that Palpatine would wish to treat the FO as a Petri dish to determine potential leaders in his eventual Sith order. Survival of the fittest. Then once the right heir materialized worthy of the honor of having all of the Sith inhabit their body and bringing forth a Sith Empire they’d strike. Ben Solo was obviously someone he’d felt was a candidate. He’d wait as he did Anakin. As was his own granddaughter. He’d searched for her previously. As was one of his Snoke clones if neither of them proved worthy of being able to defeat Snoke. Again, survival of the fittest here.

    Once he realized the Dyad and his own ability to rejuvenate himself the succession plan to inhabit as one of many spirits was over. He wished to be the one still primarily in charge of the host body and to be the one to rule as the dominant personality.
     
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  25. christophero30

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    why was Lando still on that planet after all those years? He must have really liked that festival.