PT Practical Effects in the Prequels- Sets, Pictures, Models, etc.

lol.

 

WM suckz IMO!

 

I agree. Not a channel i would recommend.

 

(Might have been posted already),, but in "Star Wars Legacy That Let To TFA"(Newsweek) there was a section called "On Location" and on the page were pics of Anthony in costume, and George in the Desert filming ep IV, AND them in the REAL Desert filming ep II ! Also mentions that they filmed 5 of the films in Tunisia!

 

Thanks for sharing. I have one question for you, are you gonna change your signature to less than 1 month instead of less than two months

 

Oh, I guess!

 

they shot anh, rotj, tpm, aotc and the tatooine senes from rots in tunisia. 5 films.

 

idk for sure but this is what i've heard. rots may have had some shots redone but they did shoot the desert scenes there. Chott el Djerid, Nefta, Tunisia. don't know about rotj unless they used some leftover tunisia shots which is possible.

 

As far as I know, the Tatooine scene was changed during production. First it was filmed while on location for AOTC, with Owen Lars taking Luke from Obi Wan, but during production of ROTS this was changed to Beru taking Luke, with Owen waiting for her. According to Rinzler's book, Joel Edgerton filmed the last bit at ILM during the 2004 summer pickups, but Bonnie Piesse doesn't get mentioned, so she might not have been around for that, which means I have no idea how and where the rest was shot.

 

I've found this article:

Link: http://makezine.com/2015/10/07/the-surprising-practical-effects-of-the-star-wars-prequels/

 

Webisodes covering practical effects and real deserts!!

 

http://www.starwars.com/news/from-concept-to-screen-kit-fisto
Cool Article on Kit Fisto..

 

EDIT: First, hope this isn't going off topic, I don't want to start a big debate.

To give an opposing point, I'm not going to say they looked worse because of the direction they took but there are reasons why the PT is notorious for overuse of special effects and green screen. TPM was fine, there really is some beautiful miniature work in all of them, but the next two at times went overboard. This isn't just some stuck up YouTubers saying this, you only have to look at what the actors themselves said. You've got whole scenes of one actor completely alone in a blue or green screen set pretending to interact with nobody. e.g.: Obi-Wan on Kamino - yes, there's a miniature for at least one scene with the Kaminoans, but for Ewan McGregor there was nothing at all, and the fight between Obi-Wan and Grievous. You've also got Jedi swinging their lightsabers on Geonosis at nothing, pretending there's droids. Natalie Portman talked about being in a complete blue screen set in the droid factory pretending to be ducking under stuff and such and how ridiculous it was. And there's cases of actors sitting on green screen boxes pretending they're speeders.

Maybe the worst offence of the use of CGI in the prequels was animating all the clone troopers. I mean, why? There was no point to that at all, it was ridiculous. The battle droids in AOTC and ROTS were also animated. C-3PO on Geonosis was animated. And the final scene of the trilogy of just Tatooine is shot on a green screen.

The prequels had some fantastic art direction, but you really can't say that this criticism of them is unfounded. There might be some awesome spectacular miniature sets but that still meant the actors had to be in a green screen set. There is a definite return to form for practical effects in The Force Awakens.

And I guess I should say as far as other blockbusters go, yes The Hobbit was even worse than the prequels for this.

 

Oh boy....

 

Poor actors and the green screens. It's not as if no one has every performed on stage without much scenery.

 

Haven't we discussed this countless times before? *Sigh*

Drewton And to give an opposing point to your latest argument, here are some pictures, videos and criticism for the originals I suggest you to check.

Scenes from The Empire Strikes Back:











Return of the Jedi







Carrie Fisher jokes about having to "act to nothing" so much that she has almost forgotten how to act on a normal set at 7:43, back on this interview from 1983, after Return of the Jedi.



Some critics back in 1980's, as John Simon, were even very harsh against the original trilogy. He criticized every aspect of the originals, from the overuse of special effects, which makes the movie look like "cartoons" according to him, the poor dialogue and acting, the unbelievable plot and characters, and the fact that it keeps the audience "stupid". Yes you can argue that they were a minority back on those days. But these were the same criticisms against the originals as against the prequels, and this rather seems like an old meme which has been rehashed by embittered fans, in order to justify their dislike or hate towards the prequels, rather an expressing their true opinion or reasons why they like/dislike a movie. And I find, not only this, but also the double-standard used to judges the PT, to be really annoying.



Some quotes of John Simon on other articles and reviews back in the 1980's:

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/08/24/reviews/970824.24simont.html

John Simon, New York, (June 20, 1977), collected in the book, Reverse Angle (1982):

John Simon in National Review, June 13, 1980, for The Empire Strikes Back:

Link: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/John-Simon-on-Star-Wars/id/13695

 

This needs to be posted EVERYWHERE...

 

Oh goodie, this thread has turned into PT vs OT

 

Yeah. Let's just stick to the thread topic, please - practical effects in the PT

 

No, it's turned into PT=OT.

 

Why should the OT even enter the discussion?