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Discussion in 'Community' started by wild_karrde, Jul 10, 2001.

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  1. Dc_10

    Dc_10 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Correction if anybody needs a good push it'd be Val Venis.




    But as for the WWE title picture.

    I really am not a fan of JBL, After all these years I can't stop thinking of him as one half of the APA and nothing more.
    I wouldn't mind seeing Jericho in the title picture. Him as WWE and IC chamipions would be awesome.

    And what is going on with Smackdown? MVP is aparantly the longest reigning United States chamion in WWE champion? Why? Because he never defends it. Have Matt Hardy actually win it seriously. or have them trade the title back and forth. Make that more interesting
     
  2. chiss_man

    chiss_man Jedi Master star 6

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    I had forgotten about that, you're totally right. Do they maybe switch heel champs and give JBL the strap? I really don't know anymore.
     
  3. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    I agree that Val Venus neds a push. He's just awesome in my book. [face_love] ;)

    And I could see Orton dropping the title to JBL at Backlash, but I don't see JBL as a long-term champ. (I remember when he was the longest reigning champion in smackdown television history... I think I may have committed suicide :p )
     
  4. Dc_10

    Dc_10 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A Val Venis push would be great he could do some good feuds. But alas they'll never happen since he's a jobber now.

    Although with the Title picture the way it is now. Who knows what the E will do for sure.

    And is Chavo's new asociate Roadkill????
     
  5. Ultima_1

    Ultima_1 Jedi Knight star 5

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    But remember, the only reason he was WWE Champion for a year is that Triple H didn't want to work Tuesdays. :D :p
     
  6. LORDeron_MAULer

    LORDeron_MAULer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [image=http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/stories/headers/joewins.jpg]
     
  7. Darth Pipes

    Darth Pipes Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    About time.
     
  8. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    Apparently King of the Ring is returning for "one night only" on the three-hour edition of Raw next Monday. Who's excited??

    I've never seen one so I'm interested in it. Not to mention I wonder who they'll put against each other and the like.
     
  9. Dc_10

    Dc_10 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The King Of The Ring has always been an awesome way to push new stars into main event status or a higher level of competion.
    Honestly I don't know whose going to be in it but i hope it'll be awesome.
     
  10. Kams_Kitten

    Kams_Kitten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    does anyone know who won the tna title match
     
  11. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    Samoa Joe did. :)
     
  12. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Really it's at the point that it does not matter what the WWE does because they are lost at sea. Instead of building people up like they should have they wasted much of there great talent. I mean really guys like Y2J, CM PUNK should be right at the top and be feuding for the top title. Also the US title means nothing they don't even have MVP put the belt on the line. The IC title well like the US title it's just there.

    I won't even go into the Tag title or what they did to the Cruiserweight Championship. Really the WWE has so many problems right now that I don't even know how they can fix it. If TNA can really make a grab at more fans then you could be looking at Monday night wars again. Only this time the WWE may not win out.

    There biggest problem is having two different top titles. What they need to do is get ready of the really dumb looking belt Randy has and just make the big gold belt the new WWE title. They then need to drop the whole World Tag team title. Just have the WWE Tag Team title. Then they need to have Smackdown guys on RAW and RAW guys on Smackdown.

    After they do all of that just do what they did in the past. This Brand thing has done nothing for them. Turn ECW into Sunday night Heat or something and have the low card guys on there. Have the mid-card and the top cards on Smackdown and RAW. That means that you can see guys like Triple H, Cena, HBK, etc on both shows and so on. It would really help the WWE right now. The plus side is that you then have more faces and heels to work with.
     
  13. Kams_Kitten

    Kams_Kitten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i think tna is becoming more better than wwe as far as talent
    goes
     
  14. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    More better?? Are you kidding me??

    But aside from your atrocious grammar...

    I don't watch much TNA (heck, any), and the only wrestlers that I found to be pretty good were Christopher Daniels and A.J. Stiles. That's not including wrestlers that switched from the WWE (ie: Christian Cage, Booker T, Kurt Angle). Jeff Jarret is annoying as all hell and Samoa Joe is just another big guy who I can't stand. And the others haven't piqued enough of my attention for me to take notice of.

    And anidanami124, I highly doubt Monday Night Wars will be coming back anytime soon. TNA doesn't have enough of a fan-base to go head-to-head with the WWE.
     
  15. Grand Admiral Strife

    Grand Admiral Strife RSA Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    For those that haven't heard yet Joey Styles is off of ECW, and has been replaced by Mike Adamle (sp?)

    Joey is headed to wwe.com to try to fix it.
     
  16. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    I think that Mike Adamle is probably the worst waste of money in the WWE right now. He's super annoying and I really don't like him.
     
  17. chiss_man

    chiss_man Jedi Master star 6

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    Yes but apparently Vince paid him a pretty penny and as such wants a decent return...
     
  18. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    Yes, but apparently Vince is a moron. :p
     
  19. Dc_10

    Dc_10 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Wait whats joey doing?????
     
  20. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    Joey is in charge of wwe.com of sorts. He's not the editor, but he's something like that.
     
  21. Cobranaconda

    Cobranaconda Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    King of the Ring was a better idea when it had its own PPV, and the winner got a title shot. By the looks of some of the previews on the WWE site, people who're already main-eventers could go in it, which is pointless.
     
  22. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Having a few main-eventers isn't a bad thing. It gives the tournament legitimacy in that the main prize might be worth it. Plus if you mix in a few midcard guys and give one or two of them wins, it helps get them over as potential main-event players. It shouldn't be like a regular old u.s. title tournament where just the midcarders are facing each other, it should be more like the Royal Rumble and be a mixed bag of talent.

    Of course without qualifying matches this year, you have to wonder how they choose who gets into the tournament and who doesn't.
     
  23. Jaina_and_Jag

    Jaina_and_Jag Jedi Master star 5

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    It goes by who's on Vince's naughty and nice lists. Duh!

    He's just like Santa. He sees you when you're sleeping... he knows when you're awake. [face_worried]
     
  24. LORDeron_MAULer

    LORDeron_MAULer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    TNA and WWE have a bit of a odd up and down relationship regarding talent performances I think.

    Many of the WWE talent there perform better than they ever did under Vince.

    Tomko has evidentially improved vastly. Christian has finally got the opportunity to show what he truly can do. Scott Steiner, I understand isn't doing as unimpressive as he did in 03.

    Sting might be "The old WCW guy" but he's still really good. I'd say he's TNA's Ric Flair. Or...something.

    Samoa Joe is a great talent, he's much better than you might think by just looking at him.

    He and Christian had the match of the night on Bound For Glory last year. Which I'd say is somewhere between 4 to 4 1/2 stars approximately give or take.

    I haven't seen his winning match against Kurt Angle at Lockdown, but is apparently had an MMA Style.

    All in all I'm feel happy about the general sate of wrestling in the immediate present.

    Lockdown and Wrestlemania are both tentatively on my future DVD shopping list, and I'm looking forward to both Backlash and Sacrifice.

    All in All, I'd say I'm just a bit more optimistic about WWE at the moment, seeing as they Kane and Undertaker as Champions, Chris Jericho as IC Champion, (looks like a heel turn is imminent there), Matt Hardy challenging MVP for the US Ttile, Mickie James as the Women's Champion, and they just had Cena AND Triple H in a match for the WWE Title at Wrestlemania and they LOST. So to my surprise, there is little that actually puts me off the product at the moment. It is sad the Tag Title division is now virtually nothing.

    TNA has Samoa Joe, Petey Williams and Awesome Kong as Title Holders and am also optimistic about the upcoming feuds the only thing I'm especially worried about with them is that they are apparently having Abyss take extended leave so he can come back and wrestle as Chris Parks.

    Regarding the King of the Ring. I remember it being fun but Its really kind sad as the whole affair is just a hint of its former self.

    The one night only might seem like an interesting gimmick to help the 3 hour episode of RAW they will be doing but The King of the Ring is not a one night Event. Its supposed to be a long arduous tournament with many people and a very long road through a long time culminating in busy night of PPV multiple matches where the winner gets an automatic boost to a higher level of position in the company's card and also all of the performances, theoretically. I don't think that they technically had the Winner gets a Title shot until the final so named KOTR PPV won by Brock Lesnar nearly 6 years ago.

    Just having one RAW with a bunch of matches under the name means little.

    I remember vividly the famous 1996 King of the Ring, made historic by Austin's big 3:16 speech, but at the time I remember having little concern for that. Other than a bit of sadness for Jake the Snake, I honestly suspected it was his night. The Main Event I think would have been...HBK defending against The British Bulldog, possibly? That match that went to a Draw because Michaels matched to pin himself and The Bulldog with a suplex?

    The biggest event for the night would have been this evil new guy who was around known as "Mankind" getting a shock upset win over the Undertaker.:eek:;) I was very upset at the time but looking back was a very memorable angle that I was glad to have watched live.
     
  25. Darth Pipes

    Darth Pipes Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Replacing a great announcer like Joey Styles with Mike Adamle is a disgrace. Adamle was good back in his American Gladiator days but he sucks big-time as a wrestling announcer.
     
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