@Alpha-Red, Fett and Han spoke during the Vong War, when Fett was winnowing down the Protector ranks by using Han. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Skirmish_on_Raxus_Prime_(25_ABY) @ColeFardreamer, I don’t think we can speak for how devastating a miscarriage is upon Teneniel.
well, no offense, but who the hell has the time to read extra expanded universe by reading Star Wars Tales anyway? If that stuff doesnt happen in the novels than stuff from the comics dont count
@XandertheWise, I think @Sinrebirth meant this just as an additional information, not as a critizism. Actually I'm glad for such info-dainties, because some of these side sources do slip through my attention on a regular base, because I don't have the time to search for all these comics and short stories published in magazines like The Star Wars Official Magazine or Star Wars Gamer a.s.o. But with that info I at least know where to look about further.
Yeah, if we're going for an exhaustive list then we want to get everything, no matter how obscure. On another note, in Star by Star a Yuuzhan Vong master shaper and the voxyn queen both die when they touch a dovin basal. They fall into a pit with the dovin basal and come into contact with it, the dovin basal thinks it's being attacked and summons a mini black hole to eat its attacker. Onward to Dark Journey though, Jaina uses a laser scalpel to slice off a piece of a dovin basal to get a tissue sample to use for her experiments...and somehow she doesn't get spaghettified.
@XandertheWise I was just giving @Alpha-Red an info-bite as I found this out myself only yesterday. Tales 21 is one of my favourite random isolated stories, as it has Yuuzhan Vong and Kyle Katarn and the Imperial Remnant. Comic or not. And all offense taken on behalf of every other format that the NJO touched upon. Comics (Tales twice, Invasion), the NJO Sourcebook and Gamer magazine with RP shorts about the activities of the Independence, Lumiya and Mareek Stele during the Vong War, and the nifty figures and minis to collect, let alone the incredible world-building in the New Essential guides and the Essential Atlas and Guide to Warfare. Oh and if I'm being 'extra', the Yuuzhan Vong ship that is an Easter Egg in Knights of the Old Republic. I'm just an Optimist-class fan and my tag was for Alpha-Red and not for you. I hope you really do enjoy all the comic references to Dark Empire in the books... and that Nom Anor was invented in the Crimson Empire comics...
I know Kyp and Luke did something to a DB, so the force does affect them. That or Tahiri told her the secret trick to it the other shaper forgot. Or maybe just a different DB, the one in SBS might have just hated the shaper and Voxen.
Question for those who did a more thorough read than me or have all the Gamer articles but... When did Fondor, Ord Mantell, Thyferra and Yag'Dhul fall to the Yuuzhan Vong? The Yuuzhan Vong retreated from Fondor, Ord Mantell and Yag'Dhul in the respective novels and I don't have Emissary of the Void to know what happened with Thyferra.
@Noash_Retrac , In this order: 1. Ord Mantell: (Hero's Trial, set 7-8 Months after the start of 25 ABY) 2. Fondor: (shortly afterwards within Jedi Eclipse) 3. Yad D'hul: (Edge of Victory II: Rebirth, set roughtly eight months after the start of 26 ABY) 4. Thyferra: (shortly afterwards within Rebirth) I have downloaded Emissary of the Void recently, but I didn't read it yet, sorry. But here one quote from Rebirth, ch 25 in the beginning of the second half of the book, which might set some benchmarks in the Yuuzhan Vong strategy, giving a rough timeline. And timelining Emissary of the Void, Wookieepedia tells us: Some more remark about Dark Journey: It strikes me that Tenel Ka was able to foresee and thwart an assasination attempt on her father, but could not feel the danger her mother was in as well, given the fact that she was connected to Dathomir so much, where her mother came from.
@Sudooku The Yuuzhan Vong didn't conquer Ord Mantell in Hero's Trial, instead retreating after being given a "thrashing" by Poinard and Sutel. So Ord Mantell must've fallen afterwards when they sent a larger force (probably explains what happened to Sutel and Poinard, ISDII Errinic, Thurse and the rest of their surviving task force since we don't hear from them again). Nas Choka also called a retreat from Fondor after Centerpoint destroyed half his fleet in Jedi Eclipse. And according to Balance Point, it was still out of action. My best guess is that Fondor was lost between then and before Operation: Trinity, despite Tallaan and the rest of the Tapani sector being protected by Garm Bel Iblis. At Yag'Dhul, the Yuuzhan Vong retreated after receiving word of the destruction of their new worldship at Sernpidal at the end of Rebirth. No mention was made of it falling afterwards. Same for Thyferra it seems. The closest we have to the idea both systems were conquered was after Fondor was liberated prior to Operation Trinity when Sovv and the High Command mentioned both were secured (...finally, though since this is Sovv, I'm not surprised). Star by Star also mentioned that Commenor had fallen to the Yuuzhan Vong by the time of the Battle of Talfaglio but The Unifying Force mentioned that it was instead under constant bombardment.
@Noash_Retrac, @Sudooku Yag’Dhul is defended in Rebirth, but there are two months between that and Star by Star and at the meeting about the galactic state between Leia, Jacen, Fey’lya in-front of the galactic map… In just two years, the aliens had cut a swath from the Tingel Arm almost to Bothan space, with three distinct salients punching through the Inner Rim at Fondor and Duro. A third off-shoot, the one threatening Bilbringi, had not quite reached the Inner Rim, but a Leia knew it would soon. Page 146, Star by Star. So in-theory the Yuuzhan Vong captured Yag’Dhul to Fondor then. Which follows as the Yuuzhan Vong wouldn’t have let the defeats at Fondor, Thyferra and Yag’Dhul stand. Garm takes Fondor back after Coruscant falls, and then the Yuuzhan Vong take it back after the Battle of Ebaq 9, and then Garm takes it back again after the Battle of Esfandia. We do know that they could repair the yards sufficiently to allow them to churn out ships quite quickly, in a matter of months, because seemingly it’s very difficult to wreck a planet-wide shipyard complex very quickly. Even two years after Bilbringi fell some of the shipyards remained. Oh and Ord Mantell fell between James Luceno’s first two books, I would say. Leia references it while on Gyndine.
Makes sense. Too much happening off-screen and the Sourcebook has quite a few errors (Kashyyyk is shown on a map to be conquered before Duro but remains free the entire war). And it explains what Bel Iblis is doing between Coruscant and Ebaq 9 and then between Ebaq 9 and retaking Fondor, he's occupying the Yuuzhan Vong commanders in the Tapani sector. Wouldn't surprise me why Zhat Lah is clearly inexperienced by the final action in the system, they keep losing commanders every time Bel Iblis is allowed to let loose.
I wouldn't want a galactic invasion to be entirely shown on-screen, mind you, and systems simply falling off-screen that we'd only just spent energy defending is fairly ominous/neat. But yup, I imagine Garm was causing all kinds of grief. His swift reoccupation of Fondor also sells why he turns up at Ebaq 9 with six whole battle groups under his command, three of which he keeps at home. With how the Vong armada is split at Ebaq 9, he has a fleet able to outgun by three a whole fifth of the original Yuuzhan Vong forces present... which is 5000 capital ships total, as comparable to earlier and later armadas. So I really don't know what to make of Bel Iblis turning up with 3000 capital ships, if that's so.
Kashyyyk is too crucial for not to be mentioned if occupied. Han was there to mourn Chewbacca in Heros Trial and later Jaina in DW trained fresh X-Wing pilots there and that would be inconvenient under occupation unless Jaina preferred to train her entrusted ones under behind the enemy lines real conditions.
The sourcebook contains many errors. Look at the length of the Uumufalh gunship as well as the I'Friil Ma-Nat corvette and Ro'ik Chuun M'arh frigate.
@Force Smuggler , Yes, he was. That is just a bit before half of the book is through (no chaps, sorry).
I do wonder if the EU had continued whether they might have revisited the Vong war from different perspectives and/or in different threatres. So much room for story-telling
They really could've done more than 19 novels, 2 e-stories, 2 short-stories and perhaps 6 comics for NJO instead of moving on and pretending Coruscant wasn't ready for at least a century to be a capital again. And not executing Thracken Sal-Solo for treason during the Vong War.
The Yuuzhan Vong War was a great storytelling event that could have birthed lots of consequences. As good as Legacy was about creating threats out of the Yuuzhan Vong, it wasn't unique, it was the consolidation of a lot of Star Wars tropes in a villain to make one threat, whereas we could have had Yuuzhan Vong content in some shape or manner for quite some time had we not moved to a Prequel redux. As to Coruscant, it was devastated by Dark Empire, and repaired by 17 ABY in full, so unfortunately we did have precedent for it taking five or six years to restore the planet, and even then, the GA Coruscant wasn't entirely restored, merely the Yuuzhan Vong flora and fauna was driven down into the depths or away from the Senate District.
Good that I didn't read DE before, so the ransacking of Coruscant and connected with that Fey'lya's death for me was a really deep dark event. But ... the poor Dhuryam! Was it dragged out of his pond where Palpatine's senate bureau was previously, and located elsewhere? Or did it meet the fate of his eleven siblings in that yard, if not by Jacen's sword?
I happen upon this idea that I'm surprised wasn't actually used, but then they couldn't have done what they were doing in the Enemy Lines duology but it would've closed off Star by Star somewhat. But the Yuuzhan Vong use a similar virus to what was used on Ithor but instead dissolved every building or construction on Coruscant, essentially melting the city down to its original surface of the planet, with millions if not billions of the stranded Coruscanti being killed as everything disappeared around them. It would've been shocking, it'd have been within line with what the Vong do and it would've changed Coruscant forever if they had to restart building the city structures from the start.
