ST Rey & Kylo Ren in Episode IX

This is exactly why my now ten year old daughter thought that was the good scene in the movie, as in, the only one. And she does not like Rey as a character and she and a classmate made fun of a teacher that gushed about reylo when she encountered my daughter and her friend discussing SW (Ahsoka, in their case).

 

You are definitely not alone on that score.

I believe the only way to affect change is through a corporation's pocketbook since all they care about is money...and TROS will (in my opinion of course) see it's box office legs chopped off at the knees if there's a romantic angle to Kylo and Rey by the end of the flick.

As far as that twitter feed goes with "Kids like Rey and Kylo"...I'm sure they do - but NOT as a romantically intertwined entity. They like them individually as characters - not the "romance tropes" they may or may not represent to them.

Unless by "kids" we really mean the shipping demographic in their mid to late 20's.

 

Has nothing to do with romance. Two adversaries teaming up to take down a bigger fish. Sounds interesting.

And...honestly...most people have no idea that Palpatine is in the movie yet. When the trailer came out, someone posted a link on our work slack hangout channel. No one knew what that was. 1 person said it was Snoke. And it was lonely oh me who said, nope it's Palpatine...I mean..the Emperor.

Fans, who are already super excited about this stuff, might be. Reylo fans think they're going to make babies. General Audiences do no care yet. Right now they're thinking about Spider-man. And Toy Story. They are not thinking...man I hope Rey and Kylo make out in the next episode after defeating Palpatine. It's just no on their radar at all. People aren't obsessed with SW as we are.

 

I don't know kids in the 9-12 year old age range that like Rey and Kylo. I don't buy that they do generally even remotely.

 

I couldn't even get my son to watch the trailer, and he used to be my SW buddy. He was so excited and emotional coming out of TFA that he threw up all over the driveway when we got home. He was so "meh" after TLJ that he doesn't even really care where the story goes at this point.

 

When have I ever brought up romance?

 

Thanks for sharing that story....

 

I didn't say you did specifically. The last dozen pages are about a tweet that insists general audiences want romantic Reylo and if you don't, you don't count. You're here in that discussion. You bring up the throne scene as evidence that general audiences are excited about them teaming up, which might be true, and that's why LFL is making their bond stronger, and given the context of the thread and the last few pages, I expanded on why that doesn't mean romance.

That's all. Try not to take everything as a personal attack.

 

Understood, apologies.

 

That's funny. I threw up all over the driveway after TLJ, but more over what happened to Luke. I didn't care as much about Reylo; I didn't like it but I don't have a lifetime invested in them like I do Luke.

 

Wow, that Galaxy of Adventures short brought back the 12 year old in me at least. Great stuff.

 

Well.....listen, I turned to my friend when Obi Wan said he loved Qui Gonn (or whichever way it went) and said "that sound you hear is 50,000 slashers running to their computers. " I should also mention I knew folks who were into Maul/Obi Wan.

And everyone going "what?" should keep that in mind for Reylo. Just because a circle of fandom buys it doesn't mean the the general audience does. No matter how many times Nerdist and Vanity Fair post clickbait articles about how hot it is.

 

I think kids, who didn't have the investment in Luke that a lot of their parents have, got invested in Rey and Kylo and Finn after TFA. I have seen plenty of evidence that TLJ killed that momentum. Shoot @MagnarTheGreat just posted an article about SW related Google trends in the box office thread that only reinforces what I have seen with people around me generally... So yeah, I don't buy the descriptions of the general audience that claim widespread excitement at the idea of more Kylo and Rey team ups. I think the appeal of SW is in it being an epic adventure of good versus evil. That Galaxy of Adventures clip reinforces that. It doesn't highlight the throne room. It highlights Rey and Kylo as adversaries.

 

The problem I have is that this assumes that excitement about Rey and Kylo means excitement about Reylo. I am sure that there are tons of people, adults and children alike, who are excited about Rey and Kylo. That does not mean they are aching for Rey and Kylo to hook up. Those are completely different things.

 

That's funny that title has Jedi vs Sith in it.....when JJ and this ST has bent over backward to say Kylo and Snoke weren't Sith and be vague when any questions on the matter are asked....Now all of a sudden its supposed to be the epic conclusion to the Jedi vs Sith Conflict with Rey and Kylo(Possibly Sids back).

 

Imagine if someone made a movie/trilogy adaption of Legends Jedi Academy, lots of spectacle, cool displays of Jedi superpowers, an evil FG, the battle of good between evil, a young conflicted character with a tragic backstory pulled between darkness and light. I`m sure if done right, it would be crowd-pleasing blockbuster material for general audiences of all ages. The same audiences the MCU is currently doing gangbusters with. And if gave people a choice in terms of force spectacle what they would rather see: two force-users tussling with a bunch of non-force-users or a bunch of Jedi students force-link together and push a fleet of Star Destroyers out of orbit (which still feels more grounded in context than Rey lifting mountains with no effort just because, at least with the push-action, one student had to sacrifice his life), I think the latter spectacle would win out.

I don`t think people would have said "no" to more Jedi in more colourful adventures if you gave it to them. You can still ground the stories with heart and mythology. If Rey and Kylo were Rey and Kylette or Ray and Kylo, people would still appreciate an action combat scene. Especially if there are not that much of that.

 

Well each of them were complicated adversaries

Obi Wan vs Anakin.
Luke vs Vader.
Rey vs Kylo.

None of them are a case of good vs bad for the sake of good vs bad. or at least Rey and Kylo shouldn't be if they are thrown in with Obi wan vs Anakin and Luke vs Vader

As for why they showed Rey and Kyo fight. well yeah you wouldn't really expect them to show the 2 fighting together when thats not the point of the video and its also not something they probably want to be an expectation for episode 9.

 

Complicated.. the complication is love in both in the previous two. Agape ( unconditional Luke & Vader) & Phillia ( Brotherly love Anakin & Obi) the only kind of love never addressed so far has been Eros and that is what the argument seems to be about. What kind of love is the complication between Rey & Kylo? Agape, Phillia or Eros?

 

What kind of love?

The 'crying on the inside' kind I guess...