ST Rey & Kylo Ren in Episode IX

with Force ghost Obi Wan smacking Luke for throwing him under the bus to Rey.

 

Yep. The entire trilogy feels like it was put together in a boardroom by corporate execs.

 

the first time I saw TLJ, I just thought to myself; they're trying to please everyone. It had jokes, darkness, action, romance all piecemealed together awkwardly. And TFA is just OT fan service, although I did like it.

 

Honestly, I think as time goes on more and more young people will turn to the ST and the newer movies more exclusively and watch the older films less and less. They’ll be unwise to do so but that seems to be the way the world is headed. This is why they make so many soft reboots and remakes rather than just re-releasing classics into theaters consistently with new promo campaigns.

They’ll stream the newest ones Thad are out and go as far back as recognizable actor faces they recognize as being from their own era and just Wikipedia the plot of the rest.

The average person doesn’t watch many films from the 1950s and in not too many years the average person won’t wetch many films from the 1960s and then after that it will be the 1970s and eventually the 1980s in like 2050. This includes the classics. I love classic films but they’re a harder sell for the general population.

People that aren’t film buffs just seem to be moving in this direction with cinema in general. It’s the single biggest reason they go for these soft reboots and remakes rather than just re-releasing classics on the theatre regularly.

 

Agreed. They can channel that money into a fresh IP if they don't want to make SW.

 

or set it in another time period that doesn't throw the legacy characters under the bus. It would be like Rey turning into cranky Luke in 30 years. who wants to see that?

 

If she goes out a Legend then I see no problem. I only wouldn’t want to see it because it has already been done now.

 

There’s a lot of room in the GFFA for different subgenre explorations, IMO. That was one of the most exciting aspects of the sale.

As for the ST, and the possibility of someone good developing feelings for someone bad. It’s still within the space opera / soap opera frame work. It’s just moving it from a young wizard loving his evil wizard father and thinking he’s gotten through to him to change his ways and being willing to die to make that happen over to a young female wizard liking a young evil evil wizard more than she wishes she did and thinking she might have figured him out and gotten through to him and realizing she didn’t and bolting while we await the rest. Both under the backdrop of war and the violence that comes from it in a violent galaxy.

The Luke aspect was the more Sundance-like arc of that film and the thing that elevates it to greatness for many critics and some of the fandom who see it the same way. It was also the arc that lead to the most anger for many others.

 

Yep, time to remake the OT. Can't watch A New Hope with those awful 70's hair styles. That Vader vs. Obi-Wan fight is so boring. The special effects are really dated. The pacing is awful. The droids walk around Tatooine for 15 whole minutes.

 

For someone like me who is not sensitive toward all (or many) real life sociopolitical concerns in in my Star Wars movies tough it’s just another human complication.

In all honesty, the top of the pop charts aimed at the same tween and teen girls that Star Wars was hoping to bring into Star Wars is absolutely DOMINATED by toxic romance content. VIII gives enough reasons to believe it’s not only this for her and also shows her walking away when her interpretation of the vision doesn’t come true.









If you want to know why it’s less shocking to people it’s because of all of the other controversial pair ups I shared yesterday which are popular and because the music charts are dominated by songs with content like this that could be set to your least favorite Reylo moments and them fighting and completely work as Reylo music videos.

It’s just a popular dynamic that millions like and find exciting and subversive even though it’s controversial to some people. It is popular in books, music and prevalent in film and TV. The amount of anti-Reylo content from legitimately influential places was quite small. I don’t think Reylo is coming to IX, personally, but if she did do something like a kiss to say goodbye that then brought him back after he died it wouldn’t shock me because some people really enjoy this type of thing.

 

Doubt any of those songs are about falling in love with a mass murderer.

 

None of them are about galactic war with magical powers either but the point remains that toxic relationships are popular. This ST was conceived at the height of the YA movement and at a time when studios were intrigued by the purchasing power of the tween/teen girl demographic coming off the heels of Twilight.

 

It's really pretty freaking offensive if Lucasfilm thought they had to bring in toxic relationships to the trilogy to attract teen girls. I'm going to choose to think better of the management there and assume that it's more a case of RJ liking to focus on angsty men, and having to find something for the protagonist to do resulted in said toxic relationship.

 

JJ Abrams just confirmed he is using this song as Reylo's theme.

 

Lucasfilm commissioned Reylo artwork during the TFA era during a fan contest.

Look, the Solo twins story was the most known EU option for them and they tossed it aside by design. Why? Far more people than Rian Johnson in that company wanted to work up to PG13 Reylo moments eventually. It’s not like he didn’t get approval.

@anakinfansince1983 , look at the music I shared and content like Twilight. That content isn’t focused on our grandpas.

 

Liking popular trashy pop songs = young girls like toxic relationships

What kind of logic is this?

 

Star Wars is supposed to be a four quadrant movie. Meaning it appeals to everyone. YA movies are not four quadrant. Why would Lucasfilm want to limit their audience?

 

It's illogical and offensive, and not even reflective of the types of movies that are generally popular with teenage girls at this time (hint - it's not The Last Jedi). And I seriously doubt that there was a Lucasfilm directive to Ryan Johnson to make Star Wars more like Twilight and Taylor Swift songs. That's a patently ridiculous notion. My teenage daughter is sitting next to me in a rage after I told her this line of discussion, so thanks at least for the good bonding moment.

 

Well, mansplaining how young girls must all like toxic relationships is sure one way to argue for Reylo. Bold strategy, Ender_and_Bean.