ST Rey Skywalker/Daisy Ridley Discussion Thread

Under duress she could leave just fine so at the very least it wasn`t like Anakin and "hey, your implanted slave bomb will kill you if you try to run" deal. So if she had really, really wanted to, she could have done what she actually did in TFA, run to the Falcon (or some other ship) and just fly away.

 

So you’re saying she took up a job digging up scraps and eating measly portions because she ... was waiting for family?

You have no clue that she “worked pilot gags” my god lol

She just said she knew how to pilot the quad jumper

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Rey says this out of her own mouth in TFA. Yes, this was explicitly her motivation.

 

Yes, this is something that Rey says, more or less, herself.

Spoiler: The Force Awakens (Script Excerpt)

REY: Are you offering me a job?
HAN: I wouldn't be nice to you. It doesn't pay much.
REY: You're offering me a job.
HAN: I'm thinking about it.
Rey wants to say yes. But something stops her. A line she can't cross.
HAN: (CONT'D)
Well?
REY: If you were, I'd be flattered. But I have to get home.
Han looks at her, questioningly.
HAN: Jakku?
Rey looks off, in thought. Yeah, Jakku.
REY:
(beat) I've already been away too long.
HAN (to Chewie): Chewie, check out the ship as best you can.
HAN (CONT'D): It's too bad. Chewie kind of likes you.

Han offers her a job and although Rey wants to accept, she turns it down because she feels she needs to go back to Jakku. Her financial situation hasn't changed so she'd be back in the same living conditions and scavenger work as before.

Source: https://www.scriptslug.com/assets/uploads/scripts/star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens-2015.pdf

 

No, she doesn’t. Is scrapping parts the only occupation available to people on Jakku?


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Not what I’m talking about and that’s pretty obvious.


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Oh were you focusing on the specific job? I would presume Rey takes whatever work she can get that keeps her on world. At some point in time, that seemed to include piloting.

 

isn't that TFA canon?



She never tried to leave. So her life was whatever she could get on jakku.

 

We don't need Kylo to explain Rey's thoughts to us on this point. Rey herself says multiple times throughout TFA that she didn't want to leave Jakku.

 

Never once argued Rey didn’t stay behind on Jakku for her parents.


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Okay, my bad. I have no idea what point you're arguing for. I missed something.

 

Yes you do lol.


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No, it wasn't obvious. You gave no indications that it was anything but a sincere question that you aimed at me.

What was I suppose to read off your post?

 

She says that she's flown ships and she's shown to have knowledge of how to repair ships herself. The former is shown in the rapid-fire exchange she has with Finn after the air battle on Jakku.

Spoiler: The Force Awakens

FINN Now that was some flying! How did you do that?! No one trained you? No one? That was amazing! (beat) You set me up for it! (cocky) That was pretty good.

REY Good shooting! Thanks! I-I don't know! -- I've flown some ships but I've never left the planet! Your last shot was dead on. You got him with one blast! (laughs) It was perfect!

They're just staring at each other now, seeing something odd and weird and wonderful -- two people totally inexperienced in joy and camaraderie.

Spoiler: The Force Awakens

REY I'll drop you two at Ponemah Terminal. I need the bonding tape, hurry!
FINN (searching for tape) What about you?
REY I gotta get back to Jakku!
FINN (loses his mind) BACK TO JAK--?! Why does everyone always wanna go back to Jakku?! !
REY No, that one! No. No. The one I'm pointing to! No. NO. NO. If we don't patch it up, the propulsion tank will overflow and flood the ship with poisonous gas!

Bb-8 has moved to Finn -- TIPS HIS HEAD, shows him the tool.
He throws her the tape, she disappears below:
FINN
This?
REY
Yes!
FINN Hey. Rey. You're a pilot -- you can fly anywhere! Why go back?!

The Wookiepedia paints there as being two on-planet occupations: being a scavenger and being an anchorite, the latter belongs to a religious sect of hermits that believes suffering is the basis of all life. I suppose there is also also the mining operations, but I don't wanna know what their health and safety standards looks like, if they even exists at all.

So yes, even if Rey had taken a gander at her options of on-planet occupations, scavenging was likely the only one that looked "appealing" to her.
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Source: https://www.scriptslug.com/assets/uploads/scripts/star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens-2015.pdf

 

For all we know Rey won't re-establish the order for years to come (Luke himself waited a decade before he made the effort), won't even re-establish it all or will do so with help, either from Finn or from some hitherto-unknown Jedi surviviors. It's really to early to say at this point how this will all go down.

This is North Dakota. I was being somewhat disingenius for the sake of sarcasm, but seeing how small the hill is in TLJ you can see were I was going for.

Small boulders, yes. But as we know from ESB it's not a matter of power, it's a matter of belief.

Rey believed she could lift the rocks, and so she did, Luke did'nt belived he could lift the X-wing, and thus he could'nt.

Yes, becuse he died, correct?

You know how far light-years are? Right?


This is the galaxy, with Ahch-To on the left and Crait in the middle of the bottom - the galaxy is 100,00 light years across so those planet are not anywhere near each other, but even if the distance between Crait and Ahch-To was equal to that of, say Earth and Mars, what he did would still be pretty impressive.

Luke created and projected a solid image of himself across almost half the length of the Outer Rim (he would have had to be channeling his life force faster then the speed of light in order to do this in real-time over such a distance, held is form for a prolonged period and created solid objects inpendent of his body out of thin air with just the power of his mind alone. That he died is'nt really suprising - that he was able to survive it at all for any amount of time is - frankly what Luke does here is probobly, objectivly speaking, the most impressive single display of Force power ever shown by somone in canon Star Wars.

"Luke did'nt peak in the first movie"

*watches the first movie, sees Luke flying a militery starfighter with no training and taking out elite pilots on the first go, while actual, experienced pilots in his own unit get wasted around him*

As far as I can remember Rey's piloting skills come from time spent in a flight simulator and a brief flight on a freighter she and some other salvegers patched up. There's no indication she worked piloting jobs and she does'nt even seem to be that experienced in flying, given the manner in which she flew the Falcon and the fact that she was suprised she did as well as she did while doing so.

 

In the above excerpt, Rey says that she's flown "some ships" - plural. It wasn't just one ship and it wasn't just something she did in a flight simulator; she's flown multiple real ships.

Furthermore, there's a difference between flying while nothing is happening and flying while you're under fire. Flying under the latter conditions is going to feel different and cause anxiety, especially if you've never flown while getting shot at before. You're also not going to be doing the same kind of flying that you would on a normal trip.

Rey was also flying a two-man freighter without a co-pilot to assist her with the piloting (we see her having to reach across the cockpit during the flight) with the added difficulty of it being an old freighter that she herself says hasn't flown in years and which she denounces as garbage.

 

LFL/Disney won`t let their own toys fail like that. That could be done with the OT characters but not theirs.

At a certain point, there needs to come in some checks and balances for that. A force sensitive toddler really believes they can move a planet? Whoopie, they can. Moving bigger and bigger objects should, at the very least, come with some physical strain. Rey smiling brightly like it is the easiest thing in the world to move many boulders is one of those "disconnect from the character" moments for me. It is boring to watch if stuff like that isn`t even hard for the character.

Among other things because he died, yes, but that`s not the only reason. That entire scene was a letdown for me. The "duel" looked so silly with those two random dodges and otherwise just standing there. And Rey lifting the boulders was the actual neccessary save in the end, not the diversion. That alone would have just delayed everyone being killed by 2 minutes or so. Awesome.

And yes, I actually understand the astrophysics of it. That doesn`t mean I have to be impressed by a holoprojection via the force. Technology can accomplish that, it is not something so mythical, it was previously impossible to even think of. So whoopdedoo the force can recreate something normal tech can largely do.

You find it more impressing that bringing people back from the dead? That is the deus ex machina power to end all deus ex machina powers. In comparism, putting on a little puppet show can be done for either relaying a message or creating a little diversion if your enemy is dumb enough. Limited uses.

So you think Luke in the first movie would have been able to defeat Vader in lightsaber combat, force-choke others, use telekinesis and all that? The guy who got beat up by Tusken and bullied by some guys in a Mos Eisley cantina? That was already peak performance
because of one scene in the end where he won at something?

 

I wasn’t even f’n talking to you. And I don’t care what expanded media says. I’m talking about the film itself.



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Yeah, Luke was just a blip on Vader's radar in ANH. His character arc just started. He and Vader weren't real protagonist/antagonist in ANH. Plenty of room to grow and that's exactly what happened.

 

You make a post on the public side of the forum and it's fair game. If you want your discussion to only be between yourself and whoever you decide to include, you need to move it to private messages.

And where in the movie do you see it shown or suggested that there are other on-planet jobs available to Rey than scavenger?

 

I thought you said Rey had piloting gigs?

Doesn’t seem to line up with your Wikipedia source.


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I did. I never said that there was always piloting gigs available for her. Just that, taking everything into consideration, she would likely be able to acquire an available off-world piloting job sooner or later, if she wanted to leave Jakku. I have never maintained that she could get reliable work as an on-planet pilot, only that she had worked gigs as one.

You asked:

If we're working solely by what is shown in the movie then yes, scavenging is likely the only reliable occupation available to Rey since the place seems centered around scavenged parts and as she lives "paycheck-to-paycheck", Rey wouldn't have the finances to even try to become a merchant.

Spoiler: The Force Awakens - Niima Outpost's description (Script Excerpt)

Rey's speeder PASSES us, heading for a dusty, desert town. Refueling, small trade, scavengers.

Sure, it does. If you notice, the Wookiepedia article mentions that "mining operations dotted the planet."

Since we don't see any evidence of a transport system running on the ground or beneath it, these places are likely connected and/or transporting their harvest using some kind of airborne ships as transporters.

Source: https://www.scriptslug.com/assets/uploads/scripts/star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens-2015.pdf

 

If Rey truly wanted to leave Jakku, she would have. When Rey wants to run away, she does. I mean, she flat out does this in TFA with the Falcon.

She also does this in TROS with Jannah's water skimmer. When Rey wants to do something, she tends to not think and just does, even if it involves stealing. The fact is she wanted to remain on Jakku. So she did.