ST Rian Johnson to write and direct Episode VIII (and also new SW Trilogy - see page 194)

I saw it more as Rian trying to not go on a tirade so he threw in a sorta, not insult exactly, equalizer I guess. He might have been going for the approach of "these are a different generations Star wars, a different group of kids than my generation" sort of thing.That is just my take though. I want to be really optimistic about Johnson's view of them. He shows them more respect than Abrams so that is good. Not that I think Abrams is some evil prequel hater or anything just that clearly Rian liked them more than he did.

 

Er, I think you missed the fact that Rian Johnson was actually complimenting the prequels...

And he's absolutely correct about the core of the PT. Anakin's fall to "fascism," for lack of a better word, is certainly fueled by his fear of loss/ death.

 

JJ uses a lot of practical effects and mixes CGI and practical so well it is hard to tell what is real and what is CGI, TFA Shot of Skellig Michael you posted is not a good representation of what we saw in the movie. Rogue one felt the same way not only did the CGI blend well in RO but it was not over done so Gareth Edwards must have some directing chops as well. the point is Disney Is making smart hires, so far all the directors are Fanboys of the OT and the Prequels so no worries about any of the director hires! I loved Jurassic World, it was way better then JP 3 and just as good as The Lost World if not better, and I loved the call backs to the original JP Film! so I am sure Trevorrow will be good as well!

all this being said would love to see Brad Bird direct one of these star wars films, I am sure it will happen. I just watched Tomorrowland, very underated.

 

Rick Heinrichs: "Rian's trying to make sure these movies have a physicality to them. We truly are out on an ocean..... a real ocean."

 

I don't want my SW movies to look "real", I want them to look alien and otherworldly. Rogue One did that very very well - one of the reasons I thought it was much better.

Take Takodana - all the forest scenes, it mostly just looked like a place 15min out of town that I could see pretty much anywhere. I don't want that out of locations in Star Wars. I want to see locations that look like nothing I could ever really see - like Dagobah, the giant overgrown swamp full of weird creatures, or Mustafar, Geonosis, etc.

If Episode 8 just looks like earth, I won't be happy about the visuals of it.

 

I said it looked real rather than CG. Doesn't have to look like earth to achieve that.

 

people can't even give a compliment without having someone twist it completely around. dear god.

 

Yeah. I thought it was well known that RJ likes the prequels. I guess not.

 

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I won't trash Abrams.....but I have an opinion........Abrams isn't good enough for Star Wars films. Glad to see new director......have to wait and see how 8 turns out. Scuttlebutt I have read 8 should be first class!

 

Ha - Abrams did a great job IMO. As did Edwards (and Gilroy) and I've no doubt RJ will bring the goods as well. He's certainly the most exciting choice for me so far.

Yes - RJ was being genuine and defending the PT. I think he's being generous personally, while what he says is true, that doesn't make up for the poor execution IMO. But RJ was genuinely defending and praising the films.

 

RO's locations looked both real, and otherworldly, as did most of the locations in the OT. Many of the locations in the PT looked otherwordly, but not real. It's a different style, that's all.

 

Rian said one of movies that inspired Episode VIII was Raiders of the Lost Ark, so maybe he wanted the Puffin island to look more like Geheimhaven:

Puffin Island through Rian's lens:



Geheimhaven through Spielberg's lens:





Could mean nothing or could mean that Puffin Island part of the movie will be somehow inspired by the Raiders rather than, lets say, Resistance part of the movie. Are Puffins the guardians of the Ten Jedi Commandments?

 

Looking forward to see a lot of people that now complain about JJ complaining afterwards about RJ even being worse (JJ 2,1bn$, RJ maybe 2,3bn$)

In some peoples opinion GL was bad, JJ was bad and RJ will be bad as well (not to forget CT)

And that is the reason why SW is so successful?

What about hiring Sergio Leone? Oh wait. He is dead. Too bad

 

1)I just commented on RJ tweet. On other hand your eagerness to talk about how bad my comment is definitely impressive mate. I immediately realized there can happen a pretty levelheaded discussion (no).
2)Except this interpretation is completely wrong. Fear of Loss didn't ultimately turn Anakin into fascist. Fear of Loss made him betray people he loved and do bad things cause of love and obsession, and egoism, and fear to be punished, and paranoia. Fascism has nothing common with his fear of loss. More of it, i can show you the scene where Anakin already demonstrated own political preferences connected to aggressive dictatorship. And funny fact - scene gives no hint on his preferences being the result of his fear of loss. He just think that dictatorship is a pretty good thing even if the Leader force other to do thing (in a Greater Good ofc, haha, yeah).
1:00 mark.


So ultimately, RJ combinated the words in a pretty bad way. He sounds like a guy who despise PT, not defend them. "Eh, you know, I'm gonna be a devil advocate (that means he agrees that the whole PT is pretty bad you know). PT is a kid movies about good guys turning into fascist cause the fear of loss (preposterous/grotesque statement)".

Sorry, guys (those who commented me that i twisted his words), but I'm not twisting them. RJ make the fun of the PT in that tweet not defend them.

 

I'm a big fan of PT and I think that everyone can have their interpretation of the movies. If Rian thinks fear of loss turned Anakin into a fascist, that's his interpretation. I, for example, blame the Jedi for treating him like crap. There are many combined factors that influenced his fall - not just romance or fear of loss or being constantly mistrusted by the Order or Palpatine's scheming - but, IMO, the Jedi could have prevented all that if they treated him fairly and didn't put him in position that he had to hide things from them cause they didn't trust him and therefore he didn't trust them in return.

I don't see Rian's tweet as a threat to VIII quality whether it's a defense of PT or not. It's his interpretation that has no bearing on the movie he's working on. Christopher Nolan is a huge fan of Michael Bay movies but his own movies don't resemble Bay movies in any way. Being a fan and being a director can be kept separately when it comes down to business.

 

Devil's advocate means he's simply offering a differing opinion. He's aware of the reputation the PT has as a whole; this has nothing to do with his own feelings or opinion towards the films. He has also defended the PT on several occasions. I'm willing to bet that he recognizes the flaws in the PT that many others do while also seeing value in them; a balanced opinion instead of an all-or-nothing like it/hate it approach. On top of that, Tweets will not offer the most nuanced version of his opinions (or any opinions) due to the character limit. Is what he said 100% accurate? No, by it's accurate enough in light of the character-limit imposed brevity of the statement.

Reading this as some sort of slight against the PT is looking for negativity where none exists.

 

I realize this quote came from Johnson but we're getting way off topic here. Let's get back to discussing Episode VIII. Thanks.

 

Probably because it's the one he had the least control over.

 

Since Rian wrote VIII and set up a script treatment for IX, do you think he'll leave a time skip in between films?

 

If only for the sake of comics, novels, and video games, it'll be there. Look at how much material is set between ANH and TESB. It's because it's the "sweet spot" where you can have all sorts of adventures featuring Luke, Han, and Leia. You can't have that with VII and VIII for obvious reasons, and I don't think they'll want to give that up completely for Rey, Finn, and Poe.

 

Not automatically. It seems RJ wont do any time skip between 7 & 8 because he thought the story called for it (basically Rey meeting Luke). Who knows how episode 8 will end...if there's an immediate cliffhanger that's possible, but if it ends like, say attack of the clones with the start of a massive war or any other long term stake i suppose RJ could use time lapse..depends on the story.

I dont know what we'll see in ep8 but personally id like it to end on big game-changing emotional events, then skip 3 or 4 years for ep9 to see how said events affected all our heroes & villains and the state of the galaxy.

 

PymParticles According to Jason Ward's interview with another podcast (not NTIP), there are plans for solo Finn books set in Episode VIII timeline which he says confirms that Finn will have his own story, as he was hearing about the movie as well. So what does it mean? There's no time skip between VII and VIII but Finn's solo adventures will take place in VIII timeline. Perhaps that hints at a time skip between VIII and IX which gives Finn time to have more adventures in the books that won't be covered in the movie.

 

different can be good... sometimes... I guess as long as it is not a Tobey McGuire Spiderman 3 jazz dance different... Shiver at the thought of Rey doing some weird space jazz dance as the darkside consumes her....

 

I'm sure some people will hate it. But then some people will always hate a new SW film.

 

Real Star Wars fans hate everything about Star Wars