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The Hobbit was never meant to be the epic of LOTR. One and done, like Rogue One.

 

A good hobbit movie would've needed 2 films atleast

 

The problem with the hobbet was with the production. its been well documented that peter jackson was brought on way too late and that caused alot of issues. They had to scrap alot of the work already done with Del Toro and that resulted in them having to redo everything last minute. Jackson has even gone on to say he didnt know what the heck he was doing most of the time.

 

I finally saw Rogue One in theaters (I live on an island, and previously only had access to a terrible camrip) in IMAX 3D.

I can now definitively say that the CGI for Tarkin didn't bother me at all. If I stared too long there was something 'not right' about his facial movements for sure, but if I hadn't known it was CGI I'd likely not have guessed.

Leia was more noticeable to me, not because it was CGI but because I oddly didn't think it looked entirely like her? Hard to explain. Given recent events, though, I was glad to see her on-screen.

The cinematography was obviously gorgeous. The ending scene on the beach was even more beautiful on the big screen.

 

So, have you seen the last Twilight movie?

 

It's kinda different... he said he liked all the Lotr movies and read the hobbit book etc but then simply refuses to watch the hobbit movies.

 

I think a person should be able to choose to not see a movie without being labelled "close-minded". Nobody has an infinite amount of time to spare, so if something doesn't sound appealing to you for whatever reason, why should you have a obligation to spend hours watching it?

 

like I said he had read the books and seen the other movies but refuses to watch the hobbit based on assumptions and stuff he's read/heard. It's like a SW fan who loves all the SW movies but refuses to see R1 for petty reasons.

 

Yes, and...? I know people who refused to watch the PT for years. I've read The Hobbit, seen both the Jackson and Bakshi LOTR movies and have zero interest in watching Jackson's Hobbit movies.

I don't know how old you are, but when you're married with various responsibilities, you have to prioritise your time. If I'm going to watch a movie, it's going to be one that I think I'm going to enjoy. And yes, that's based on assumptions, as well as word of mouth and critical response.

So again, I ask, have you seen the last Twilight movie?

 

I've seen all the Hobbit movies, and I totally understand someone not wanting to bother with them. They are the PT of the rings saga. Some good stuff drowned out by a lot of indulgent bloat that seems to have learned the wrong lessons from the originals. Enjoyable enough if you're in the right mood at home maybe but a shadow of past glories. I'd put both R1 and TFA miles above the Hobbit movies (I'd put them in the same category as the OT TBH, though some distance behind ESB, which to me is the only flawless SW movie - or it was until the SE).

 

Yes I have seen Twilight and I absolutely LOVE IT!!!

I'm jk

But seriously saying "I don't have the time" or "I have a lot of responsibilities" or whatever are poor reasons. If you like a franchise why not just watch the newer movies for the experience and make your own conclusion? it's not going to kill you.

 

I like lots of things. I can't fit them all in. So I choose from them the bits I think I'll enjoy the most. I really like Superman. I do not plan on watching BvS.

 

Please my Lord, forgive this insanity...

 

After a few viewings I'm enjoying the first act more and more. Love this movie.

 

"Insanity". Seriously. Because some people choose to spend their time doing things other than watching films that you insist they should be watching. Films with poor word of mouth and (at best) middling critical response.

And having lots of responsibilities and little time is apparently a poor excuse.

You need a reality check, mate.

 

No YOU need to check reality.

You're not allowing yourself to form your own conclusion, instead you put too much trust in what others say. It's like blind faith.

 

The LotR trilogy are probably my favorite movies. I re-read a good bulk of Tolkien's Legendarium every year.

From the Hobbit movies, I've seen An Unexpected Journey on release. I've watched The Battle of Five Armies this year, only because the local Tesco was selling out the DVDs for like five bucks and I figured that there's nothing to lose. It did nothing but confirm that my low expectations were justified. I still haven't seen The Desolation of Smaug and I don't plan to.

Why should I waste time with something that I not only know I won't like, but also find insulting to Tolkien's original work and a massive step down from Jackson's first trilogy? Being a fan should not be a job. Interacting with a fiction is supposed to be something you enjoy, not something you begrudgingly put up with. You shouldn't have to consume everything there is to offer. Acknowledge the films' existence and that other fans with differing opinion are free to enjoy them, yeah definitely. But if you don't want to go through the nuisance of watching them yourself, you shouldn't have to.

 

Well for all you knew the desolation of Smaug might've turned out to be your favorite movie ever even if you weren't impressed with the first movie. My point is you should atleast give things a chance. If you end up not enjoying it then you can either hang yourself or just move on.

 

That does seem like a viewpoint that's going to lead to you not seeing a lot of good cinema just because its adaptation differs from the original work. There is some bloat in Jacksons films but really the main reason for the stories expansion is the shift in Thorin's character taking the basics from the book and creating a much deeper co lead character in the spirit of LOTR. Indeed I think quite a bit of Hobbit film material came across as leftovers from LOTR to me with Thorin for example having elements of Denethor included that there wasn't time to flesh out onscreen.

 

Exactly. I've considered picking up the Blu-rays a few times, but watching those movies feels similar to homework in my mind. Others can enjoy them as much as they like--my life isn't affected either way, and I'm glad they get pleasure from watching them.

Meanwhile, the franchise fascists can maybe find something better to do with their time than dictating to others the need to watch certain movies.

How did you get that from what I wrote, that you quoted?

Edit: In any case, just to be clear, I am not proffering my casual assessment of the Hobbit films--based on reviews, word of mouth and my distaste for the way they were adapted from the book--as an authoritative statement. I am simply saying that what I can glean from everything I have heard and read about them suggests that I will not enjoy them. And I just don't care enough to find out for myself. Everyone makes this kind of decision every day.

 

Dion, if you don't fancy watching them, that's your choice, and personally, I don't think you're missing much in regards to the Hobbit (though I would highly recommend the extras on the blu/ download if you ever have the time. For me, those were way more enjoyable than the films themselves, which are several rungs below the LOTR films IMO - and I don't think that's a particularly controversial take, though I'm sure there will be many who do like them).

 

Dude. They weren't THAT bad. I'm a HUGE Tolkien fan. Some things in the Hobbit films were great. But PJ definitely made the mistake of thinking more is always better. There were a lot of places that a little restraint would have defeinitely benefitted th films.

But I am glad he tried to make the films more congruous with the LOTR. yeah, the Hobbit book was aimed at children. But once Tolkien decided it was in continuity with LOTR, the films needed to feel more mature.

 

I always wanted him to do The Hobbit. And when I found out that he and Del Toro were making I was happy. But it was supposed to be H and a transitional film, not 3 long films.

 

I actually think three films could have worked well if done right. But the stuff he chose to expand on was largely really pointlss action scenes. I would have like to see more Dol Guldur and less fighting on the rooftops of Laketown, for example. But now we are way off topic....

 

The problem with those films is that they are an ugly and bloated mix of both the mature, and adolescent nonsense, and that mix doesn't work. The films have a serious identity crisis. PJ should have committed to a consistent tone.

I often imagine what Del Toro could've done with it...Shame he had to drop out. That's what I love about SW right now. Different director for each film (so far). Diminishes the possibility of things getting stale. Fresh new vision each time, hopefully.