A/V Rogue Squadron movie announced, directed by Patty Jenkins

From Starwars.com
"The story will introduce a new generation of starfighter pilots as they earn their wings and risk their lives in a boundary-pushing, high-speed thrill-ride, and move the saga into the future era of the galaxy."

I found this on reddit, don't know if it's legit, it said source was Marvel Comics. So my guess is this movie takes place post TROS and hopefully none of the characters from the sequel trilogy are main characters.

 

Ah, right! Doesn't he hug Luke in one cut of the film but only shake his hand in another? Although they probably add like half a second tops to his total helmetless screen-time.

And yeah, the Hobbie-hood in the Hoth briefing doesn't do his staying-power-in-the-memory any favors. I didn't even know he was in that scene until a few months ago when we dug it up in the Obi-Wan TV series thread.

And I didn't know his voice was in Rogue One until I looked at his canon Wook article yesterday.

... and I didn't know that Fake Wedge was made a unique character in canon until right now.

 

@TiniTinyTony @Ghost Wait, that's it? We're assuming it's 20 years after TROS because it said "new generation" and a generation is 20 to 25 years? I'm not saying it's impossible, but this kind of literal thinking has bitten Star Wars in the butt before. Obi-wan's line in a New Hope about the Jedi being guardians for "a thousand generations" was clearly just poetic language. But authors took it literally and had the Republic and Jedi Order begin 25,000 years before ANH. It was really hard for EU writers to fill in this time frame, and it seemed ridiculous that the Republic was several times older than recorded civilization. Plus Lucas's writing for the prequels seemed to suggest the Republic "stood for a thousand years". My point is, we shouldn't take "generation" so literally. "Star Trek: The Next Generation" wasn't 25 years after the Original Series.

If the new film is about the formation of Rogue Squadron in the early Rebellion, or about new pilots in the New Republic Era, or new pilots immediately after TROS ends, then each scenario could be described as being about a "new generation of pilots". Now "future era of the galaxy" does seem to suggest post TROS. But promos have used odd language before, it could be flowery language to say they're taking Star Wars storytelling in a new direction. I think the promos for Kenobi said something about him fighing Vader even though ANH implies heavily it's the first time since their Mustafar duel they've met.

I'm not sure why you brought up the timeline. Assuming it's legit it's not like there's an even 20 years between each era. The High Republic certainly isn't 20 years before TPM. So it really has nothing to do with determining what era the Rogue Squadron movie will be in.

 

Honestly the only reason I can't see them being the FIRST formation of Rogue Squadron is because that means either they recast Wedge or have a CGI character that is young Wedge.

Plus not to mention the comics already dealt with the formation of the First Rogue Squadron anyway.

 

They already used CGI to recreate Tarkin in Rogue One, and deaged Leia for Rogue One and TROS. (And since Tarkin's voice and motions were provided by Guy Henry, it could be considered a recasting as well). So I see it as well within the realm of possibilities.

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And you can add Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian to that list.

The Rise of Skywalker directly contradicted the movie that came right before it. If they want to tell the story of the First Rogue Squadron, I don't think they'll let a comic stand in their way. Now I don't like continuity being slapdash, but if they have a good story I'd be fine with it. Retcons happen. The Mandalorian adapted Cobb Vanth from the Aftermath books, but from what I understand they changed some details. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar for Rogue Squadron.

 

We'll heavily disagree on that Ep 9 point for the most part, but I'm not gonna get into that.

I mean if they do CGI Wedge then he'll be a limited character and not a main character then.

 

There were some rumors going around it could even be centuries after Episode 9. We just don't know.

 

I tend to ignore rumors at this point. That stuff gets so wild.

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@JediBatman I don't assume 20 years. The very little information we know from the brief summary from Lucasfilm is that this movie will "move the saga into the future era of the galaxy." So I don't know how Patty Jenkins and team will move from one saga to the next -- I guess one example from the above timeline picture is the Emperor taking over at the end of ROTS and executing Order 66 which moved us from the "Fall of the Jedi" to the "Reign of the Empire" era. So if "Rogue Squadron" is claiming that it will move the saga into a future era, then my interpretation is that is sounds like a transitional film to show us what happens after the "Rise of the First Order" to move towards a "new era" of the galaxy.

As said above, it's anyone's guess at this point. If this is what is happening, then I welcome this approach. I look forward to the drama of a transition instead of getting another huge time gap between sagas and guessing/assuming what happened in between and actually getting to see what happens. And optimistically, if it's a good story, maybe we'll see more of the new characters in potential future installments.

 

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/star-wars-rogue-squadron-story-plans-chris-pine-patty-jenkins/

Chris Pine for Corran Horn? Heh.

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Hmm, kind of see Chris Pratt or maybe Joe Flanigan as likelier choices for Corran - so far.

 

It's time for me to dust off my old wish for Jude Law to be cast as Kirtan Loor.

(How is the Literature Casting Call thread a decade old? Wasn't that just yesterday?)

 

I dont see Pratt as Corran at all. He's cultivated too much of a lovable doofus image for that. Corran is definitely not a lovable doofus.

Pine, on the other hand, could easily be an over serious cop/pilot.

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Well, it was a very loose analogy, and I'd welcome some other suggestions. Pratt can sometimes do a bit more serious, but we'd need a much larger shortlist, to get a sense of potential choices.

 

Corran is a loveable doofus but, yes: not at all in either the Flanagin or Pratt mode.

My siblings and I always liked Ryan Reynolds for Corran (he's way too tall of course but, movie magic!)... he's got the right sort of goofy neurotic energy, though he'd have to play a bit more self-serious than usual. Also has the right look imo, more or less.

(This was for a hypothetical film/television project, of course; this post should not in any way be read as an endorsement of this particular undertaking.)

 

Another reason I can see Rogue Squadron being post ST is outside of High Republic stuff I feel like the TV side will stay more in that classic Star Wars era.

The movies (Again outside the High Republic) will be were the big expansions in the Timeline could and maybe should be.

 

I think this is right (or should be right). I sort of envision it (like you, outside the High Republic) where the movies are the big flag poles planted in the ground, out from which ripple TV shows, and then out from the TV shows are the books and comics. That's probably the best way to ensure the biggest properties have the most freedom.

 

I spoke to Mike Stackpole about Chris Pratt playing Corran Horn years ago and he agreed with me.

 

Agreed. Especially since the movie side of things is gone be scaled down

As much as I love the Anthology films (Rogue One and Solo) I do feel like what they are trying to do and the era's they are exploring are being better served with the Disney + TV side of things.

 

I'm pretty much convinced that 'freedom' isn't good for new SW movies. The best of the five we have was Rogue One and that had the least amount of 'freedom'.

 

Did it though? IIRC they planned an alternate ending where Cassian and Jyn are implied to survive in an escape pod because they figured "There's no way Disney will let us make a movie where the heroes all die at the end", but Disney gave them the ok for the "kill em all" ending.

 

Hadn't heard about that, but it wouldn't have changed the constraints that much and working within the constraints of an ongoing franchise is going to have to be part of taking a SW job.

 

I agree with you but I guess what I mean is if we have the books exploring new eras and then movies, there's more chance the movies will contradict the books and us lot will have a lot of hand wringing. If it's the other way around, books are much more likely to fall into line with the movies.

 

Hopefully, if film and TV isn't presented as a "you can do anything you want" job, those risks recede.

And some directors would see such as an intriguing challenge.

 

I tend to think that "moving the timeline forward" is almost the *only* thing the film side of things can rely on to make itself "special". We aren't going to follow the Skywalker thread for a while, and the TV shows are going to be "epic" enough to stand visually with the films. The only thing they haven't done that the films traditionally have done is move the narrative into its own future. I'm okay with that and it's good to see that I'm not alone!