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A/V Rogue Squadron movie announced, directed by Patty Jenkins

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jedi Comedian, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. Jid123Sheeve

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    I’m curious myself because Rogue Squadron seems to be very director driven compared to the last two Anthology films.

    By which I mean it seems the director also pitched the idea. While with Solo Kasdan seemed to be in charge and Rogue One was story by group. It worked but still
     
  2. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    I get the feeling they are testing the waters with Rogue Squadron to be it's own thing...an offshoot that could become a series of films, or a multimedia subset under the Star Wars umbrella.

    I could see them trying to go very "Fast and Furious"...have a big team of characters weaving in and out, crazy schemes, over the top action...but without the weight of galactic politics, the will of the force, or the stakes to the audience emotions and memories.

    I think they know what worked in Rogue One, and want to replicate it...but this time without the overhanging plot need to dispose of the characters so everyone isn't asking "where have they been for the other films?"

    Consequently, this may be the biggest reason why I believe this won't be post TROS. If they open the door...to a galaxy without the big three, without an empire (or a republic, really)...they are really gonna want to lean on as many familiar elements as they can...which means the force...Jedi...and more force and more Jedi...and I do not expect to see that in Rogue Squadron.

    I think suspect one of 2 options at this point...

    1) Rogue Squadron begins some years after Jakku...the Republic has demobilized, and the squadron long disbanded. A special mission is cooked up, and a brainiac is tasked with assembling a crack group of pilots from across the republic for a nearly suicidal mission...they get the blessing to use the Rogue moniker...and adventure ensues.

    or 2) Rogue Squadron begins in the midst of the OT. Perhaps they change the canon again, having Wedge leave the squadron after Hoth (they could re-explain "Red" Squadron in ROTJ again) and you see the Rogues at war...going on missions against the Empire in the ESB-ROTJ period...maybe they tie them into the Bothan DS2 plan heist. This idea is more character driven...learn about the suicidal pilot, the drinker, the player, the secret couple, etc, etc... It is also more grounded...you see the Rogues as based on a cruiser...maybe Home One...and you see where it goes and what it was doing right up to the rendezvous at Sullust.

    Of course this all speculation on limited detail...just where my logic takes me.

    One thing is for sure, my logic rarely aligns with the powers that be...
     
  3. Jid123Sheeve

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    I can see this and the Taikai film being this as well

    Solo was almost this before it flopped

    for my sake I hope so in terms of the Era placement :p
     
  4. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    I think it can be argued getting away from any trio of trilogy characters, but especially the OT, was Disney's plan from the start. The aim is to render Star Wars akin to Marvel and DC, with lots of characters and stories for people to latch onto, with multiple entry points. In that respect post-RoS would fit in.
     
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  5. Jid123Sheeve

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    and it’s just healthy for the franchise in general

    if they don’t wanna recast new the OT trio then new characters need to start taking center stage.

    granted I would love more ST trio stories since I love that trio the most

    but having a large roster of characters who can stand on there own in star wars without a saga trio is important
     
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  6. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Looking at the last 30 years gives a very mixed picture for DC and Marvel though. If Disney are going to go that way, without all the escape and reset tools, they'll have to be careful.
     
  7. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    MCU
     
  8. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah, which everyone thinks they can do, before failing spectacularly.

    I'm also certain Disney don't want any of their MCU / SW actors becoming too important in the way Downey Jr did.
     
  9. Jid123Sheeve

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    I wonder if it’s because Star Wars has like zero reset tools we do get so....passionate about the canon

    like there is no Star Wars multiverse

    and rebooting film stuff is a lot harder then lit (as sad as it may be)

    So when Luke dies....that’s it...unless he’s a force ghost he’s off the board.


    The MCU and DC can just reboot whenever things get to much

    granted seems the MCU will be around for a while before a big continuity reset
     
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  10. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    I'm not so sure of that for the films, but for the comics, death has been a revolving door for years.

    And yeah, having a "dead is dead" policy in place means every call has to be perfect, but practically they can't be.
     
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  11. Jid123Sheeve

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    Not just death but any continuity thing added be it family connection, retcon of a event or secret thing that made a simple story very over complicated.

    Star Wars doesn’t have that easy “reboot continuity and wipe slate clean” button that DC and Marvel.

    We’ve done it once...but I don’t know if we can get away with it again.

    While comic book universes have multiverse reboots and various continuities
     
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  12. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    To be honest I don't know what's stopping Disney from going full multiverse on SW.
     
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  13. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    People like Dave Filoni and KK.
     
  14. Jid123Sheeve

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    i mean I’m not against them writing books in the legends continuity.

    you don’t have to make a big deal about the multiverse just write those stories based if that continuity
     
  15. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    I'm not sure there were that many stories left to tell in Legends.
     
  16. Jid123Sheeve

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    i actually agree with you. Maybe like a few plot threads to wrap up but they were getting close to Legacy comics book wise
     
  17. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Technically they could continue both Legacy v2 and Dawn of the Jedi. The problem is restarting them after DHC wrapped both up before losing the licence. Suppose you could do a new volume entirely for each.
     
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  18. Jid123Sheeve

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    fair but I feel like you lose that special sauce if it’s not DHC doing this specific story
     
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  19. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Well that's why I'm rather ambivalent on the KOTOR omnibus out later this month. Something doesn't feel right about Marvel making money out of it.
     
  20. Jid123Sheeve

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    True

    but also Disney needs more things to put in those theme parks :p

    (that’s where the real money comes from)
     
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  21. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Force Ghost star 5

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    They won’t do anything with multiverse or alternate timelines because they want all eyes on canon. I can imagine the hellstorm that would be unleashed if they did a story about an alternate Post-RotJ timeline.
     
  22. Jid123Sheeve

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    Yeah

    That's what I was getting at when I was talking about how fandom is very....Passionate ...about our canon. For like it or not the Sequel Trilogy is here to stay, even if we don't focus on the era, those events happened and there is no changing them.
     
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  23. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, until someone retcons them in a later story.
     
  24. Jid123Sheeve

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    You can't retcon them though?

    Luke is gonna be dead

    Rey's a Palpatine unless they find a very convoluted way to do it.

    Like what is a retcon in your eyes here? I still don't know what people are looking for?
     
  25. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    It's kind of hard to do any retcons when you have a set of what is supposed to be three films and two of them retcon their predecessor.