Ahsoka Sabine

Still more clothes than a bikini you have to admit

 

Sabine's beskar armor seemed small to me, so I compared it to Bo-Katan's. Bo's shoulders are heftier. Sabine could use a tad more armor about the midsection...considering...

 

I think what I'm hoping for is that Sabine has a kind of "soft" Force sensitivity.

It's always been the case in the Star Wars universe that every living being, indeed all matter, is connected to and by the Force. "Force sensitivity" is not a matter of you either have it or you don't, it's a spectrum, a matter of degree.

Traditionally, the Jedi only take on people whose connection to the Force is above a certain threshold. Sabine would never have been selected to become a Jedi during the late Republic (or probably at any point in the Order's history).

However, everyone can access the Force, particularly with training - it might not manifest in crazy powers like telepathy or telekinesis, but it might lead to things like heightened awareness/senses and mild precognition. And an understanding of the will of the Force. Chirrut is the example we have already. Or it might not even look like any of those things that you can specifically put a finger on - it might just look like the way many religious people in our world feel and believe in a connection to spirituality, something beyond the material.

Ahsoka deliberately chose someone like Sabine in part because she's scared of training someone with extreme power, like Grogu, but also because she's compassionate, humble and open-minded enough to believe that "ordinary" people can and should connect to the Force like the Jedi do, even if they aren't able to do so to the same extent.

 

I’ll probably be able to accept it if it is as you described a soft force sensitivity. Similar to Chirrut.

But I think it will always be weird to me that some people are born with it. As we see with every previous Jedi. And others can be taught.

but I am sure I’ll rationalize it one way or another eventually. But I will probably always think it will diminish her character at least in some regard. Because she’s cool because she isn’t force sensitive

 

Yeah I agree, I think in general I'd prefer it if she wasn't being trained as a Jedi - she already has heaps of interesting things about her that could have been explored instead - but the above is what I'm hoping for since they are going down that path.

 

I get that the force is a spectrum. See Ezra being able to jump great distances before he’s even training or that kid in TCW who hasn’t trained at all and can use the force to levitate a ball. But I have always read Sabine being on the really low end of the spectrum so low as to almost not be on it. But all living things are.

and that’s more to do with her character then anything. If Dave says at some point he always planned for Sabine to be force sensitive I will have a friend slap me cause if that was the case he poorly showed it in rebels.

I’ll have to wait and see how it plays out. Maybe it works with her character

 

Where are you getting this information. This has not been established, or has it? Because the way you’re stating things you’ve made it seem as fact/canon. So far with everything on-screen it “appears” Sabine was being trained before Ahsoka met Grogu and then Luke Skywalker.

I don’t see Ahsoka Tano,as some who’s scared. She once faced Maul, Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine ~ she’s stood up to the Jedi Council, she was resourceful enough to survive Order 66 and escape. Ahsoka is a survivor, and the only apprentice of the Chosen One.

Sabine’s aptitude for the Force, however strong, is something I’m sure we’ll eventually get an explanation for but to just dismiss the possibility of her force strength is I believe premature. There have been other force sensitive beings who didn’t discover their true strength until being forced use it….

 

Everyone has access to the force, and thus can learn to tap into it. That's essential, IMO. It may come much easier for some than others, and most will never be enlightened by tapping into it, but there cannot be a total genetic block on it for anyone. That would strike at, and fatally wound, the very heart of Star Wars.

 

Exactly.

 

Yes the force makes up all living things but I don’t think everyone should be able to access it the same way as Jedi

but again my bigger problem is with Sabine herself being able to use the force. We’ll see how it plays out

 

OK, but nobody said that.

Everyone should have the possibility of tapping into it, though. Even though the number of people who do tap into the force will/ should be very small, the possibility should never be 100% blocked for anyone. This is fundamental.

 

My problem with making it anyone can have the possibility of tapping into it is that non force sensitives will disappear because every writer will have no self control once the flood gates are open

 

I don't see why we should accept that slippery slope as an article of faith. There are plenty of creative and financial reasons to avoid that.

 

I've thought though unlike other races, would Mandalorians encourage a child's Force abilities due to their history and culture? I don't think so.

 

It's the same armour she wore as a teen, until it's reforged it's going to be small.

 

Idk...Sabine appears to have less plate coverage as teen in Rebels than she does now in LA:



The breastplate in particular covers much less before than it does now.

 

Sometimes animation won't match exactly with live action, it's obvious they've redesigned Sabine's look for this show just as they've modified aspects of Ahsoka's lekku and I think Thrawn's uniform. Going back to OP about comparing it to Bo's armour, the distinction between Sabine and Bo may be for a reason we'll find out.

 

It's my interpretation of the scene in The Mandalorian where she refuses to train Grogu, citing Anakin's fall, and saying that it would be better to let Grogu's powers fade. I think she definitely has doubts and fears rooted in her experience with Anakin and with the Jedi Order in general.

It also doesn't really matter whether she was training Sabine before or after Grogu, the point still stands that she's okay with training someone with limited Force potential but is very hesitant about training someone with extreme potential like Grogu.

But yes, this is just my reading of the text, based on evidence, and not indisputable fact.

 

You know what I always forget Sabine is like 30 during this show

Edit: I guessed right on the money

born 21 BBY show takes place in 9ABY which makes her 29-30 depending on what time of year she was born I guess but that’s semantics.

 

May be you don't notice Din's armour being shorter because he has a Kevlar style material belly plate

 

This seems right to me. Chirrut, cited above, could not shoot down that TIE Fighter but for some facility in the Force that he honed. In a galaxy of who-knows-how-many systems, the Jedi weren't going to identify, accept, and train but a small percentage of people with some facility in the Force. They were going to go after the highest end of facility at the youngest age. That leaves out a lot of potentials of varying "talent level."

In my free time, I coach youth baseball with the local little league. We can teach pretty much every kid pitching mechanics. Most we can get to the mound in a game situation. Some will be better than others. That could be due to natural ability; it could be due to being better at receiving instruction or having more of a competitive drive. Whatever it is, it's fine. We're all there to have fun. But some of the better ones will play travel ball, where they get professional instruction. And then a small slice of those will really thrive because they can pair higher-end natural ability with higher-end instruction. And from there a radically smaller slice will move on to whatever the next step may be.....

 

Interesting comparison. I personally didn't like that Katarn went from an offshoot of Han Solo to Jedi in the continuation of those games. I kinda hope Sabine does not either.

 

In deep analysis of possible clues/facts that indicated Sabine was a Force sensitive in Rebels: