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Sariss

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Eric2005, Mar 2, 2007.

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  1. Eric2005

    Eric2005 Jedi Youngling

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    My personal favorite character is the Dark Jedi Sariss because not only is she really hot but she's a master of lightsaber combat and she relied entirely on her saber skills rather than any of her Force Powers. I can understand why Yun fell in love with her after she became his father's fiance because it seems impossible to say no to a babe like her. (Yeah, I know she would have become his stepmother but despite that, can you really blame the boy?) and she did seduce him after all. If her father was Lord Cronal, leader of The Prophets of The Dark Side on her homeworld of Drumond Kaas, as history claims, I can't understand why he and the other Prophets abused her so much and I can definitely understand how that would affect her in her later years. I wonder what happened to her after her duel with Kyle Katarn because her arm was still moving even after he thought he had killed her and I assume she never went back to serving Jerec or The Empire again.

    If falling to the dark side meant that I could be at her side, I'd take the plunge into darkness in a heartbeat and never look back!
     
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  2. veamon69

    veamon69 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Um...dandy.
     
  3. Grey1

    Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group star 4 VIP

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    Sorry, I normally don't do Kyle Katarn facts, but if Kyle had thought he had killed her, she would be dead just because of the thought.
    ("How about the power to kill a yak from 20 feet away by just looking at it, with a >bleeb< mindbullet?")

    Honestly, I don't know any of her backstory. The way I understood it, Sariss is quite dead. Pushing up the daisies.
     
  4. Eric2005

    Eric2005 Jedi Youngling

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    I found an account of her backstory that disagrees with you which says that even though Kyle beat her using a lightsaber counterattack technique known as The Flowing Water Cut, her arm was still moving after he left her for dead to face Jerec so I just assumed that she somehow survived the fight and never went back to serving Jerec or The Empire and perhaps simply traveled on her own for the rest of her days or she may have gone back home to her homeworld of Drumond Kaas.

    You also have to keep in mind that Sariss was not your average run-of-the-mill Dark Jedi and was able to gain more and more dark powers right under Jerec and Palpatine's noses and they had no idea just how powerful she was. She was Jerec's second in command, she seduced Yun into killing his own father on the planet Panatha and she almost took Kyle Katarn out until that turncoat Yun suddenly developed a heart and got himself killed by blocking Sariss's execution blow on Kyle and during The Battle of Fort Nowhere on the planet Ruusan, she nearly Force Choked a settler to death in order to "soften up" the local population and she personally beheaded the mayor of Fort Nowhere, Byron Devo III, during the final assault on the settlement. Even Jedi Master Qu Rahn said of her, "Of all the Dark Jedi I have ever met, Sariss is the one I can honestly say...I fear. Powerful, strong in both the physical and mental arenas of the Force, she is a master, a perfectionist, quiet and reserved. This makes her a very dangerous foe."
     
  5. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    She's dead.
    In a fierce battle with Kyle Katarn, the prophetess accidentally struck down Yun, and Katarn stabbed Yun's own lightsaber through Sariss's chest, melting her heart. Yun's dying words -- "Sariss, can you see the light?" -- reverberated in her mind, cutting more deeply than any lightsaber wound. In her final moments, Sariss saw only darkness.

     
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  6. Eric2005

    Eric2005 Jedi Youngling

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    You've certainly put up a great debate but I got this info straight from an online Star Wars Encyclopedia which clearly states she survived her duel with Kyle Katarn.

    "However, her death was uncertain. When Kyle Katarn defeated her, it seems her arm was still moving. We assume, Sariss did survive but didn't return to work for the Dark Master Jerec."

     
  7. jSarek

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    Rogue Follower's source is an official Wizards of the Coast article, a licensee of Lucas Licensing and legitimate purveyor of canon information. Your source is unlikely to have similar standing.
     
  8. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So her arm rolled a little after death. Maybe her actress couldn't keep still. That doesn't mean she survived. A twitch after a stab doesn't mean you live. It just means you didn't die at the moment of stabbing, or that your body moved and settled a little after death. Sorry, but that's no evidence at all.
     
  9. Randy1012

    Randy1012 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Great, now I have to listen to that kriffing song. Thanks a lot. [face_laugh]
     
  10. JEDI-KILLER_17

    JEDI-KILLER_17 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Nothing wrong with a little "wonderboy" every now and then...
     
  11. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, you "got" the info from there. o_O

    You'll excuse me if I'm suspicious when a user named "Eric" added that in six minutes before you made this post.
     
  12. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Valerine Wildman is/was hot, aye.

    Don't see why there needed to be a thread about it though... :p

    Which reminds me, they should really get around to writing an "Emperor Katarn" infinities comic sometime... just think of the possibilities! Think of the fanservice and pandering that could be done!
     
  13. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [image=http://www.swgalaxy.ru/encyclopedy/heroes/images/cliegg_lars.jpg]

    Your Dark Jedi is dead son, accept it.
     
  14. Eric2005

    Eric2005 Jedi Youngling

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    What are the chances that a skilled Dark Jedi and master of lightsaber combat would fall to a self-trained Jedi who flirted with the dark side every time he took on one of Jerec's minions and gave into it when he struck down Maw? Pretty low and there's a good chance that Kyle defeated her and wounded her enough to keep her alive if only barely because a small part of him inside may have felt some pity for her. Besides, no real Jedi would have killed her outright.

    Sariss survived just as other Dark Siders have recieved critical injuries in the past that would have killed any normal person but they survived:

    Darth Revan's mind was damaged beyond repair when his apprentice Malak betrayed him and he survived to face Malak and slay him in combat.

    Anakin Skywalker lost both his legs and was critically burned on 98% of his body but he managed to survive to become Darth Vader.

    Compared to those, it'll take far more than a simple stab to kill Sariss and unlike people like Palpatine who talked about power of the dark side but didn't truly believe in it because if he did, he wouldn't have had clone bodies created to keep himself alive but would have trusted in the dark side to sustain his lifeforce. He knew how to use dark side powers but trusting in the power of the dark side and using dark side powers are two totally different things. He wanted to cheat death as Darth Plageuis had done but using clone bodies instead of the dark side doesn't count. She had a wide range of dark powers but relied almost entirely on her fencing skills and she had extensive knowledge of the dark side and knew how to use it to her advantage.

    Besides, Obi-Wan said it best in "A New Hope" when he told Luke "The Force will be with you, always" so it applies to both Light and Dark Siders because Sith Lords like Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus wouldn't have lived as long or been as powerful as they were if it didn't so Sariss survived either because of her extensive knowledge of the dark side or simply through sheer force of will so one has to learn to look beyond the surface and dig deeper to find the truth.
     
  15. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Nope. Sarriss is 100% dead.
     
  16. Mark686

    Mark686 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    If thats true someone should remove it. I would do it but i just bought a hammock.
     
  17. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I like Sarris too.

    Just remember she survives in Dark Katarn universe!

    ;-)
     
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  18. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    She got stabbed in the heart. You do not survive that.

    Furthermore, is there even a cutscene showing her death? I don't recall one. If there isn't one, then any impression of "her arm moving" is bunk.

    And here's the part from the part from the graphic novella, just for kicks.
    Sariss sensed the other Jedi's hesitation, mistook it for fear, and launched a feint.

    It was directed at Kyle's belly. He fell for it, saw her pull back, and knew the lunge would follow. He managed to parry, felt resistance as her saber clashed with his, and found the answer he'd been searching for... Tal had been a student of another no-less-formal school of swordsmanship that was half-physical and half-spiritual in nature. There were many evolutions, and many cuts, but only one that sang with the moment. The Flowing Water Cut was for use when going blade-to-blade with an opponent.

    Timing was everything... and as Sariss withdrew... Kyle knew that he should expand, following with body and spirit, like water into a vessel. And there, within the calm, to cut slowly and release Sariss from her body. Action followed thought. His blade strobed through the other Jedi's chest and the point emerged between her shoulder blades.

    There was very little blood since the wound was cauterized as it was made. Sariss looked surprised. Her eyes went down toward the point of entry, up toward his, and then were gone. She fell over backward, hit the ground, and skidded on loose gravel.


    Dead.
     
  19. burrie

    burrie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There isn't. Only a death animation that has her falling to her knees and then collapsing, no arm-moving stuff.
     
  20. veamon69

    veamon69 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Use. Punctuation.
     
  21. VIII

    VIII Jedi Knight star 2

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    A untrained Jedi that could defeat her boss could probably kill Sariss too. And I think just about any real Jedi would have killed her if they were in Kyle's position..

    And just to question that Kyle Katarn could kill a Dark Jedi, ha...
     
  22. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    [face_worried]
     
  23. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Fixed.

    An [even more] unstoppable, evil Kyle? How could this be resolved? He would cut down anyone who would oppose him. They could rebuild a Death Star and nuke his throneworld, and he would kill the Rebel Scum. There would be no victory for the non-Kyle good guys.
     
  24. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What are the chances that an even more skilled Dark Jedi who had access to nigh infinite power would fall to a self trained Jedi? Pretty low... but, oh yeah, that's how Jedi Knight ended.

    I mean, would you argue that Jerec survived? No, of course not, but I get the feeling that that's more down to his lacking a certain pair of "assets"* rather the fact he was quite obviously cut in half.

    Whaddya mean "resolved"? An unstoppable, evil Kyle Katarn IS the resolution.




    *Sarriss did have lovely eyes, lets be fair.
     
  25. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Somehow, I get the feeling that that comic would do one of three things:

    1. Jan becomes a Jedi to beat Kyle and save the Galaxy
    2. Luke fights Kyle and wins and saves the Galaxy
    3. Jaden beats Kyle (despite being trained by someone other than Kyle).

    In other words, it'd be no wonder that it was Infinities.
     
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