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  1. TheGhostOfZero

    TheGhostOfZero Jedi Master star 2

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    More canon Post-ROTJ headcanons:

    Luke never settled down, married, or had a wife and children because he never really needed to. The students of his academy were effectively his surrogate children, who he promised that he would protect with his life.

    He made many friends that would be in-and-out of his academy, he was still very close with Han and Leia, and he may have had a mutually affectionate partnership with someone in the years he spent putting it all together.

    Besides a few run-ins with the forces of darkness such as the remnants of the Empire, the Knights of Ren, and a number of other upstart groups seeking to replace the Sith; everything was going great.

    Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever.

    Luke had received many dark visions prior to the destruction of his Jedi Temple, and was warned that unless he did what had to be done when the time came, it would all be gone in flames. He told himself he would never let that happen. He thought he was prepared for anything.

    How devastated he was, the man who couldn't bring himself to kill his evil father, to find out that the greatest threat to his family, friends, and everything he cared for, came from within.
     
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  2. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Contrary to Bo-Katan's belief that she is the last of her line...Korkie is still alive...and he and his fellow former cadets (Lagos, Amis and Soniee) fought the Empire and were even a special forces team or the Rebellion traveling under the cover of being a freighter crew.
     
  3. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Korkie Kenobi will never rule Mandalore though but I'd like to see a reunion of the Mando kids and Ahsoka as well as the other Mandos post ROTJ!
     
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  4. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I don't want Korkie Kenobi to rule Mandalore...that is Auntie Bo's job. I just want him to be alive and active in the Galaxy.
     
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  5. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    1. The New Sith Wars considered of several New Sith Wars.

    a. The First New Sith War circa 2000 BBY, which saw the Republic lose territory but Ruin's death cripple the Empire.

    b. The First New Sith Civil War lasted until the Dark Underlord rose up, but he was content to lead the Empire into the New Sith Cold War and focus on small-scale marauding.

    c. His death in 1750 BBY saw the Second New Sith Civil War.

    d. In 1500 BBY Darth Revan led the Second New Sith War, but was initially stymied by the inability of the Empire to coordinate. thus defeats at Gap Nine and Corphelion and Kings. He turned to the Battlelords project and new allies, and launched the successful offensive in 1466 BBY that broke the Republic. His subsequent death did nothing to detract from the successes of the Second New Sith War.

    e. The Third New Civil War consumed much of the galaxy.

    f. The Third New Sith War, otherwise known as the Sictis Wars, were led by Belia Dazru.

    g. The Fourth New Sith Civil War lasted until 1100 BBY.

    h. The Fourth New Sith War broke the Republic and saw Coruscant fall.

    i. The Fifth New Sith Civil War lasted until 1010 BBY, and included the Fifth New Sith War when the Republic took back Coruscant in 1032 BBY.

    j. The Sixth New Sith War, otherwise known as the Light and Darkness War, began as a Jedi offensive under Kaan, before he turned the Sith Empire around and back at the Republic. This was ultimately destroyed at the Battle of Ruusan.

    2. The Old Republics weakness during the New Sith Wars was the result of the damage the Galactic Wars did to the galaxy. With minimal resources, the Republic never really recovered from the conflict, and the secession of the Centrality and Hapes, and later the defeat in the Seventeenth Alsakan Conflict, underscored just how weak it was. Only the relative weakness of the Sith prevented them from taking advantage, especially with the collapse of the Paecian Empire. But by 2200 BBY the Republic's economic weakness set the stage for Darth Ruin to reunify the First Sith Empire and launch war across the Hydian Way.
     
  6. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    You meant Darth Rivan, right?

    Any ideas on the extent of the Paecian Empire sizewise?

    Some more headcanons:

    Why is the Centrality named Centrality when it is the opposite of central?
    Because once upon a time, it was central to a large region of the galaxy despite its remote location at the galaxies edge. Long before the ascent of the Core Worlds and even before the rise of the Varlians in the Rim, before even the Tion and Maw Clusters humanity, the Centrality was one of the prominent, central spots of the galaxy with civilisations as the Sharu, Thon Boka, precursers to the Sorcerers of Tund and others in high times. Back then the centrality even reacher beyond its modern sector borders and encompassed space almost to the backdoor of Mon Calamari space, including Lothal, the Ash Worlds and reached up to Kessel and Varlian Space and the as of yet un-expanded Tiion region. But with the devolution of the Sharu and recluse of other inhabitants like the Thon Boka, the Centrality waned in influence and only legends remain of how influential they were in the time before Varlians and Humans took their place and rewrote their history.

    Kinda back in the earliest days when this region of the Rim was most prominent and explored the rest of the galaxy (like Trek does with from Earth starting from the Rim expanding coreward and to other quadrants).
     
  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    laughs

    Yes, Rivan.

    Though he took control of the Order of Revan, clearly.

    As to sizewise, yes, actually.

    The Atlas tells us the borders of the Republic withdrew to Iridonia, Ord Mantell and Ithor.

    So with that, and the Hydian Way as the eastern border, and the Unknowns as the western border, we have fairly defined regime.

    However it is a remnant in comparison to what Vitiate had before the Galactic Wars.

    Funnily, Republic Space is probably slightly smaller when all is said and done.

    I consider Darth Paecia ended the Galactic Wars by treaty.
     
  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Double post because abuse of power.

    The Republic between 1032 BBY and 1010 BBY takes back a great deal of territory off the back of the Battle of Coruscant.

    They're finally able to fight a traditional war after basically nine centuries of being completely unable to.
     
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  9. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Well they shot themselves in the foot when deactivating the hyperlane networks, navigation beacons, holonet and communication satellite networks.

    Speaking of which, do we know for how long those deactivations took place? centuries? only the last decades of the war? And how long did it take to shut those down or did they have a killswitch at BoSS?

    Besides... how much longer even did it take to reactivate them and clear hyperroutes and check navcharts for new undocumented anomalies? How many great disasters happened until all was clear and a go again? How many decades did it take to have those networks and lanes only accessible to military and the Republic before being opened to the public again?
     
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  10. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    They had the Jedi Beacon system from DOTF. ;)
     
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  11. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    In the first six months of the Yuuzhan Vong War, a young tactical analyst developed a plan to bring the Yuuzhan Vong into a trap that would make them thing twice before advancing towards the Core.

    Seeing how the Vong would advanced around the Northern Line, he chose to use the Gyndine system (to him a critical system for its vital shipbuilding capacities, however small it appeared). Knowing that the Jedi were a factor towards Vong actions since Helska, Dantooine and Ithor, he wanted to use the idea of a conference on war strategy consisting of Fey'lya, his Advisory Council, several senior senators, Sovv, his senior commanders and officials, Luke and what passed as the senior Jedi leadership (even Kyp Durron) and the leaders of neutral or allied worlds including the Imperial Remnant, Hutt clans, Corporate Sector Authority, Hapes Consortium and Herglic Empire being held on Gyndine as an enticement. He also planned for a strategic third of the Home Fleet to be present, united with Gyndine's local defence force, and pulled task forces from the Third and Fourth Fleets to be staging from Commenor and Corellia and a task force from the Fifth Fleet pulled from Bothawui to nearby Circarpous. He even planned to use the Star Dreadnoughts Lusankya and Guardian in his strategy and wanted to enlist the support of the BoSS to shut down the hyperspace beacons for "repairs" at the same time.

    But a factor was while the Vong using their agents would believe the New Republic forces to be at Commenor and Corellia or secondary systems such as Neimoidia and Duro or even tertiary systems Quellor or Kinyen, in truth the fleet task force to be led by Admiral Kre'fey was to stage outside the Gyndine system. The plan was to have the Gyndine/HF forces to engage the first wave of any Vong ships, then to drop in a third of the combined fleet to attack from rear until it brought in the Vong reserves, to which then two remaining thirds of the fleet would engage (together with the Jedi in this wave). If the Vong brought a final wave, then Assets A and B (Lusankya and Guardian) would jump in and annihilate this final wave.

    Sadly this plan never came into effect because Sovv and Brand had plans to use Corellia (a big mistake as even this tactical analyst saw the hole it opened for Fondor itself) at the cost of Gyndine, Circarpous and other vital systems that saw them lose control of the Corellian Run and were too confident in their strategy at the expense of others. After the Battle of Fondor, he resigned from the New Republic military saying that the fall of Coruscant was on Sovv and Brand's head. He was inevitably proven right but refused to return as long as both held their positions.
     
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  12. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    I headcanon that at some point some SW show or movie will open with the following scene:

    A tiny Imperial vessel, probably a Gozanti is fleeing from a large looming New Republic warship chasing it (probably a Mon Cal cruiser). All plays out as a mirror to the ANH intro scene but with roles reversed. The Imperials carry important plans they need to bring to their Grand Admiral and send those off via escape pod with two droids (BT and Triple Zero or a K2 unit?) as the NR pulls the ship in and boards it. Stormtroopers lining the corridor defend as the NR cuts itself in and NR troops storm the ship followed by a prominent NR leader with a cape (General Calrissian? General Solo? Wedge? Who?). As the Imperial droids wander the planet to find their way offworld and to their masters,... you know the rest.
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Isn’t there some argument that this is probably what the Dornean I forget the name of argued for.

    A’Bath? He resigned his commission and was originally voting to fight for Gyndine.
     
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  14. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Not General Etahn A'baht. But certainly someone who probably thinks similarly enough in the Dornean's way of thinking.
     
  15. Old Republic Jedi and Sith in Legends were more powerful than Palpatine or Anakin
    but Imperial propaganda makes Palpatine and Vader more powerful that currently they are
     
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  16. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    More military headcanon:

    The "move away from centralization" alluded to in the original Thrawn trilogy occurred because of two near-simultaneous events. The first, of course, was the disappearance of the Katana fleet, thanks to a hive virus that ultimately led to all of the ships being slave-rigged together and jumping to hyperspace at the same time. The second... was the defeat of the Trade Federation over Naboo, thanks to the destruction of one droid control ship instantly immobilizing all forces in the system. (The novel specifically says that the Katana fleet disappeared ten years before the Clone Wars. This is one time that a date given in an early Bantam work, rather than becoming a continuity problem, was actually enhanced by the release of the prequels!) Either one of those events, in isolation, would have been one thing: the two of them together, especially since they happened to completely different fleets run by completely different services and took completely different forms, with the only common denominator being "centralized automation is bad news," were pretty much the nail in the coffin. This not only encouraged change in the official services (the Trade Federation having switched to self-controlled droids by the time of Geonosis, for example), but confirmed Sidious and his shadow allies' decision that building an army of living beings rather than automated ones was the way to go.

    Relatedly, this also explains why Separatist military equipment is so rare in the stories from the Bantam era. Continuing on from the Katana/Naboo trend, the outcome of the Clone Wars further increased distrust of automation in warfare, even if it was no longer as centralized. (That's only one consideration, of course: the other two are that the droid systems the Confederacy used were quite expensive and difficult to produce, so your average enemies of the Empire would find them hard to afford, and that the Republic and early Empire had sunk a lot of research into viruses, hacking, the Star Wars version of EMP, and other forms of electronic warfare designed to target these systems, so Separatist operating systems were mostly obsolete, especially against the Empire).
     
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  17. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just to tack one more thing onto the above, here's a fascinating thing we see in Episode II -

    You know who doesn't use droid warriors? The Geonosians! This, if you please, is an entire planet of arms dealers, who've been mass-producing droid soldiers and droid starfighters for some of the largest armies in the galaxy. Surely, you'd think, it wouldn't cost them much to keep some of them for themselves? But they don't: we see them use up a ton of live warriors instead in the arena and before that when fighting Anakin, and the couple of Geonosian starfighters we see are piloted craft as well.

    Since obtaining the droids clearly isn't an issue, you can read that pretty blatantly as "we will cheerfully sell this mass-produced crap to all of our clients, but hell if we're going to trust it with our own security!" Clearly automation was already being held in low regard before the war even started, and by people at the cutting edge of the arms industry, too.
     
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  18. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    I really like the idea that the Mods and a lot of the rich people in The Sanctuary are either refugees from Operation Cinder or offworlders who had interests in Mos Espa previously but now live there full time since their homes were destroyed.
     
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  19. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    While serving on Kerev Doi Than Kyrell flew a TIE Striker while on patrol.
     
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  20. RK_Striker_JK_5

    RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost star 7

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    Taking some elements/characters of the Sequel trilogy and combining them with the actual EU...

    1. Rey is Ken Palpatine's twin sister. The two trained at Luke's Praxeum on Yavin IV-WHICH DID NOT BURN DOWN OR WAS DESTROYED!-, but while Ken openly uses his family name as a way to try and redeem it, Rey is deeply ashamed of her roots. If someone asks her what her last name is, all Rey will say is, "Rey, just Rey."

    2. The First Order existed... as a teeny-tiny splinter state after Endor. They unfortunately managed to do the whole 'kidnapped kids and turn them into child-soldiers' thing before they were crushed. Finn was one of their ranks, but with help from Rogue Lead Poe Dameron, he escaped, killing Phasma along the way. He became an uber-badass New Republic commando that rivaled Kyle Katarn in sheer awesomeness.

    3. the entire post-YJK era was a bad dream brought on by Prince-Consort Jacen Solo having some bad Itheorian takeout with his wife Tenel Ka.
     
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  21. RogueWhistler

    RogueWhistler Jedi Knight star 3

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    Some Rebel pilot headcanons:

    The young, dark-haired Rebel running with Cracken and Blount between 7:10 and 7:35 of this clip is Ace Azzameen.

    Because the Y-wing component of Gray Group disintegrated as a unit early in the Battle of Endor, Gray Leader Horton Salm flew with Wedge Antilles as Red Two after Sila Kott, the first Red Two, was shot down. Because "Gray Leader" didn't report in at the end of the battle, he was initially reported as a casualty.

    Doyle Skims, the pilot of the eighth Y-wing at the Battle of Yavin, lived long enough to appear in the Death Star-destruction cutscenes of X-Wing and Rebel Assault, but was killed by a surviving TIE or a piece of debris.

    A pair of prototype A-wings joined the Battle of Yavin after the main Rebel group, and weren't among Lieutenant Tanbris' initial count of "thirty rebel ships". The A-wings were tasked with escorting survivors away from the battle, so Jake Farrell isn't considered to have survived two Death Star runs - Janson was telling the truth in Wraith Squadron when he said that Wedge was the only pilot with that accomplishment. Similarly, Keyan Farlander engaged Imperial capital ships at Endor and wasn't part of the assault on the second Death Star.
     
  22. Jid123Sheeve

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    I headcanon that the ancient past was actually REALLY FUTURISTIC! It was a era of massive Superweapons...Fleets larger than anything one can ever imagine.


    Science and Magic were practically one and the same.

    But then the last Great Jedi/Sith War happened and nearly destroyed everything starting the Galaxy back to year zero again.
     
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  23. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Crossover headcanons:
    -All the lifeforms of Subnuatica live on Castilon

    -Several vehicles from the Japanese edition of battletech are in use in the star wars galaxy in various planetary militias, mercenary units, and heavily armed criminals and corporations: http://www.gearsonline.net/series/battletech/vehicles/

    -There was at least one world that was pretty much a dnd style world, where numerous portals via the World Between Worlds brought populations of human, sephi, gamorreans, and numerous other species (any got a good star wars stand in for d&d style dwarves?). Force uses were more common on the world for some reason, and the planet had a supply of ichor allowing for dathomir witch like magicks

    -Outlaw Star style casters were a thing long ago, if rare even at their height, using kyber tipped bullets inscribed with sith or jedi runes

    -At least one Sith Lord built an anime style mecha with a giant lightsaber instead of a conventional starfighter. In the end it proved to be impractical.

    non-Crossover
    -The Children of the Watch first split off from mainstream Mandalorian society as a result of the Cathar genocide, seeing it as a dishonorable act of pointless cruelty that showed how the Mandalorians had strayed too far from their roots. That said, it is a not a continuous history - rather, the Children of the Watch have died out and been refounded many times, particularly whenever Mandalorian society faces some grave crisis.

    -Death Watch and the Children of the Watch were named after a semi-mythical organization during the initial colonization of Mandalore, known simply as the Watch, witch protected Mandalorian camps at night from the world's many predators, particularly protecting children who were favored prey of many types of Mandalor predators. The Death in Death Watch is just to sound more metal.

    -Wirutid were derived from Drengir, though how this happened remains a disturbing mystery.

    -There was actually a terraforming craze in the high republic up until the time of prequels, and the population had rapidly boomed as the galaxy recovered from the sith wars. Most were simple copies of existing ecosystems - Correlia was a favorite, and there was a Naboo fad for a while after it joined the Republic, leading to such questionable decisions as putting Naboo sea monsters on Aqualaris, though sometimes clients would mix and match ecosystems. However, the economic depression and population drop after the High Republic, exasperated by the horrors of the Clone Wars, GCW and surrounding conflicts, led to many of these worlds being barely colonized or not colonized at all, with dozens of perfectly habitable and even nice worlds just left
    (Also one of the leading corporations that did this terraforming after a disastrous project involving trying to weaponize a parasitic hyper-predator they found in a crashed Yuzhan Vong scoutship on a desolate moon they were planning to terraform)

    -At least one sith lord managed to become minister of education in the republic and pushed a curriculum that deemphasized the role of the sith in the sith wars and portrayed it as a more general chaotic time with warlords of various origins. Where Sith were mentioned, they were played off as little more than a splinter group of jedi, and the text often grouped together jedi lords and sith lords in the same breath.

    Honestly, that is my headcanon about what the High Republic is all about. Not going into brand new frontiers they have never been in before - noticeably a lot of the places being "discovered" seem to speak basic and have populations of mixed species including from those within republic space - but rather having to go out and rebuild everything that was destroyed by shutting down that infrastructure and the subsequent destruction by sith and other warlords. Also, it took long enough after shutting down the systems to be economically capable of expanding back out that galactic drift made the old charts useless, and explorers like the Grafs and San Tekkas had to discover new routes to get to those places.

    Huh, I always thought of the red B1s at the battle of geonosis as their personal stash of battle droids....
     
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  24. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Hyperlanes and Maps are politically relevant and therefore secret lanes are treasures to the point that the galaxy in fact can be traversed much faster than officially recognised. Grafts, San-Tekkas, the Claatuvac Guild and many others like Jedi, Hutts, governments keep their own secret stash of private routes.
    An accurate map of those private routes would look more like some alternate maps we have seen or ancient ones with lines on Force Compass etc. especially for the Jedi maps with focus on Forcestrong targets and ley-lanes. Others focus less on direct linear lanes and more round circling routes resulting in a map with lots of circles and curves overlaying each other (as Sullustans prefer it) and remniscient of the Force Priestesses background mural.
    When the Senators took their secret routes to the Rebellion, the Empire had to turn many private lanes public in order to patrol and police them to not allow the Rebels an advantage via them. This benefited the galaxy at large more than the Rebels or the Empire.

    Alternatively, hyperdrives have regulations and safeties that outlaws can circumvent of course or deactivate but most do not for good reasons. What is not known to most of the galaxy is that the safeties were by political design too strict so that official craft of politicians, military and specialists can cut corners average Joes cannot, hence they are able to save time, or use different routes usually deemed too dangerous as per safety regulation hardwriring.

    Another feature of the elite is the option to clear a lane for them. Traffic flows and busy lanes are fast but for express use, these elites can send signals to the nav buoys and tech keeping lanes clear of debris and within seconds clear a lane for private express use, which results in warnings for all other craft on it to exit or slow down. Basically the density of hypertravel (collision-free) is regulated like the keeping lanes clean by this tech at certain lane intervals and with the express signal activated, the density is altered resulting in slightly barely noticeably slowing down of the main lane to allow a singular ship corridor express extra fast passage.
     
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  25. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 4

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    The name “Jacen” can be traced back to a legendary spacer and explorer whose exploits were popular in Corellian folk tales. Jacen and his crew most famously fought a Sith Leviathan and an army of the undead on one adventure.

    Being seasoned spacers themselves, both Hera Syndulla and Han Solo were very familiar with the stories about Jacen from their youths.